Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

My question, will the engine braking will be as Effective in ART/ slipper clutch bikes as it is in standard clutch?

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It will more or less be the same. Otherwise, the motorcycle will feel weird, no? The slipper clutch will 'act' only during abrupt downshifting. IMHO, even in a slipper, one can enjoy the manual transmission by blipping for rev matching during a downshift. It is more a safety aid than an assistant.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Thank you sir.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

What is the status of Apache 200 with slipper clutch, ABS and FI ?
Till now I just had one chance to ride Apache 200 but the front end felt heavy as compared to Gixxer(my current bike) and R15(previously owned).

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I don't think the Fi + ABS will ever launch.Because of cost reasons.The Carburetted + ABS already costs close to 1.3L.Adding Fi will put the cost close to 1.4L,Which will make the bike much less value for money.

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So that means I can get carb +Abs + slipper clutch model ??

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Yes , definitely few people have bought it

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Thanks mate.
Cheers

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Yes you can get Apache RTR 200 2.0 model(carb+slipper clutch+ABS),one of my friend bought recently costs 138500 onroad Bangalore but ABS is ain't switchable as on 180

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Yes that's a complete package now.
Now am just susceptible about heaviness of the front end of Apache.
How good is handling, braking as compared to R15 V3.
Have to choose between these 2 bikes.

TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

[QUOTE=akmaintu;1344655]Yes that's a complete package now.
Now am just susceptible about heaviness of the front end of Apache.
How good is handling, braking as compared to R15 V3.
Have to choose between these 2 bikes.[/

Apache is lighter on front and have a less committed riding position when compared to v3. Its much focused on comfort when compared to v3. V3 is a track focused bike. From the reviews and videos it’s clear that rtr 200 can’t stand for a chance with v3 on ultimate performance. V3’s acceleration is very close to of Ktm200. Eventhough the v3 is an 150 it’s VVA(variable valve actuation)mechanism gives a wide range of power output which gives v3 an upper hand. Of course v3 is technically advanced motorcycle... but it’s committed riding position is not comfortable for long rides and traffic rides which requires frequent braking.
And also v3 engine is a high revving engine that produces less torque than rtr200. So you need to work up with the gears promptly to maintain pace when compared to rtr. Rtr is much relaxed and easy to commute.

In handling, it’s obvious r15 has a stiffer chassis which offers better cornering stability at high speeds. But at lesser speed both are same. Because I personally experienced enough with r15 v1 on race tracks. It’s easy enough to scrap the foot pegs at 110kmph. But rtr200 is nervous due to its softer suspension and frame.

Braking in rtr200 is a bit spongy and fades under hard braking. But V3 has Better brakes than rtr.
You can’t compare them because they are meant for different worlds.
Even apache is developed from racetrack it’s a sporty commuter. But v3 is bred for track.

So...
If you need a fast and comfortable day to day bike go for rtr200.
If you are a hardcore rider thinks nothing but performance and handling then go for r15v3.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

[QUOTE=deepakmadhivanan;1344776]Thanks mate for the detailed comparison.
Cheers.

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Considering to buy a bike in the near future. I'm stuck between the Apache 200 4V and the 160 4V. I've ridden the 160 4V.

1) How different is the ride feel (except for some extra power) on the Apache 200 4V compared to the 160 4V?

2) How does the slipper clutch feel exactly? Is it like I pull the clutch lever every time I decelerate or it just kicks in only on hard downshifts? Does it affect engine braking?

3) What is the mileage I can get with 40-60 kmph in the city and 60-80 kmph on the highways? What are the mileage figures of the FI version compared to the carbureted version of the 200 4V?

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Mileage in city for my riding style is 32kmpl

For long runs on the highway I was able to achieve 38 kmpl
(Figures for RTR 200 4V Carb, No slipper clutch)

Theres only about 3-5kmpl more fuel efficiency in the FI variant.

So that should give you a mileage of roughly 40 kms more.

I would recommend getting FI if you go for 200 as it helps in cold starts and its got a minor power bump. But then again its FI and comes with its 'cons'.

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What speed do you usually maintain? Does your city ride involve a lot of stop and go traffic? Any sudden accelerations or braking?




Does the bike have any starting or battery issues? It is significant considering the fact that the 200 doesn't have a kickstarter.