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  • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

    Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
    Looks like the company should stop giving the manual to the owners now, since they "know it all" and also knows how to control their inner feelings and keep their bike in perfect condition during run in
    No one is know it all and its impossible figuratively [emoji4] .

    In my defence, I think they should not stop giving but update the manuals. I do love my bike so much that I did not stop for instructions just at manual but searched the forums too and I think most would agree, the running/breaking in of engine of all capacity ,dynamics has similar instruction.

    You may say the knowledge from manual got polluted with online knowledge(it may be dangerous too).

    There are many methods online and the guy in above post (video ) talked about hard breaking in( diff topic).

    My act of touching 100 was influenced by the fact that we should ride our bike in all possible power band and I strongly agree.

    I searched so much that I got to know "using engine braking while engine breaking" will help the engine to smooth out easily. Buy this one never mentioned in manuals.

    There are other facts too that no manuals here say anything .

    I have seen people writing to follow the 4-5k rpm till 2k -5k KMs for commuters in this forum [emoji15] .

    I really love your posts . do share your thought on why a performance bike should be break in similar to commuters .

    It would really help people here as most of the guys have got he bike recently and if useful they might implement it for good .

    Cheers
    Do Rev your heart in out or on treadmill After revving you bike's engine.A free flowing and high revving heart will give more happy miles too :)

    ---Sanjay!

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    • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

      Originally posted by tanishq View Post
      You are stating 1600kms but in manual its written 1k kms...
      Soooo much of confusion :what:
      Yes , so much of confusion.

      I have read to follow the same sanely riding for 5k KMs for commuters bike (is that really possible ) [emoji15] .
      Do Rev your heart in out or on treadmill After revving you bike's engine.A free flowing and high revving heart will give more happy miles too :)

      ---Sanjay!

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      • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

        Originally posted by tanishq View Post
        Not cutting ur words maybe be ur right & as i haven't completed 1k kms so cannot test this theory by my shelf.. but as for this bike... I would suggest u to have a look at this video... https://youtu.be/tbL_F26yORI
        checked out the video in FF mode. first off, speedo error. all bike companies err on the side of higher error. and i didnt notice top speed tests...

        secondly, as i mentioned earlier, the torque characteristics of the bike are such that torque reduces significantly post mid range, something TVS has consciously done, to be able to call it a street fighter. as a result, when rpms increase beyond a certain level, torque reduces significantly, disallowing the bike to push thru the wind resistance.
        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...s-1-rider.html

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        • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

          First of all the run in is not necessarily till 1k kms, it goes beyond that too, if one is eager to search online, its mentioned in that too.

          Now, the run in is same for 100cc bikes or 1000cc bikes, provided most of the 1000cc and above (600cc too)are already dyno tested before they leave the factory.

          Run in is done so that the metal parts gets used to the movements, then the change in filters i recommended because the metal scrapings has to be removed (be it commuter bike or any bike) and 1k kms is just the minimum of it, it can go till 2k kms even.

          Now here the definition of performance bike may vary from rider to rider. For some 200 is in that categiry and for some even a 150cc can be a performance bike.

          We , Indian biking community is so much attached to top speed , mileage and all those factors that we forget the real essence of biking.

          Now coming to the above video shared, why people tend to forget what condition the td vehicles are which are given to the auto portals?? How come one can forget the things like, chain slackness, tyre pressure, body weight of the riders and most of all riding style of each rider. On top of that everyone knows speedo error on the bikes and every bike will have diff percentage of error.

          This brings me back to the same thing, why is everyone hell bent on proving the top speed is xxx at x this gear. Why not start treating your bike as your own and let others enjoy theirs.
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          • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

            Originally posted by tanishq View Post
            You are stating 1600kms but in manual its written 1k kms...
            Soooo much of confusion :what:
            Officially yes it's 1k kms, but for good engine performance it's done 1.6k kms. Like in 1k kms engine should not exceed 5k rpm and after that next 600 kms it should not exceed 6k rpm. Doing 8-9k rpm for few seconds is ok but redlining it is not good.

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            • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

              Originally posted by Kos View Post
              checked out the video in FF mode. first off, speedo error. all bike companies err on the side of higher error. and i didnt notice top speed tests...

              secondly, as i mentioned earlier, the torque characteristics of the bike are such that torque reduces significantly post mid range, something TVS has consciously done, to be able to call it a street fighter. as a result, when rpms increase beyond a certain level, torque reduces significantly, disallowing the bike to push thru the wind resistance.
              So according to you rtr200 has sepedo error of around 30kmph.. as he clearly said in the video motor beam guyz said that 3rd gear maxes out around 73kmph & he is showing 103kmph in his video i do admit that every bike has a speedo error but having error by this huge margin its not something that i can digest maybe the error will be around 10km more or less but 30kmph is a huge margin.

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              • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
                Officially yes it's 1k kms, but for good engine performance it's done 1.6k kms. Like in 1k kms engine should not exceed 5k rpm and after that next 600 kms it should not exceed 6k rpm. Doing 8-9k rpm for few seconds is ok but redlining it is not good.
                Got it.. thanks for the info!! but as i said earlier in 5th gear.. i was on 9k rpm its was132 on Speedo so i wasn't constantly riding on 9k rpm
                Last edited by tanishq; 09-18-2016, 04:09 PM.

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                • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                  Originally posted by CosmicSpeed View Post
                  Yes , so much of confusion.

                  I have read to follow the same sanely riding for 5k KMs for commuters bike (is that really possible ) [emoji15] .
                  Exactly i was thinking the same

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                  • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                    Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
                    First of all the run in is not necessarily till 1k kms, it goes beyond that too, if one is eager to search online, its mentioned in that too.

                    Now, the run in is same for 100cc bikes or 1000cc bikes, provided most of the 1000cc and above (600cc too)are already dyno tested before they leave the factory.

                    Run in is done so that the metal parts gets used to the movements, then the change in filters i recommended because the metal scrapings has to be removed (be it commuter bike or any bike) and 1k kms is just the minimum of it, it can go till 2k kms even.

                    Now here the definition of performance bike may vary from rider to rider. For some 200 is in that categiry and for some even a 150cc can be a performance bike.

                    We , Indian biking community is so much attached to top speed , mileage and all those factors that we forget the real essence of biking.

                    Now coming to the above video shared, why people tend to forget what condition the td vehicles are which are given to the auto portals?? How come one can forget the things like, chain slackness, tyre pressure, body weight of the riders and most of all riding style of each rider. On top of that everyone knows speedo error on the bikes and every bike will have diff percentage of error.

                    This brings me back to the same thing, why is everyone hell bent on proving the top speed is xxx at x this gear. Why not start treating your bike as your own and let others enjoy theirs.
                    I completely agree wid ur statement regarding the factors affecting the top speeds... But bikes are something that makes ppl happy.. & that happiness has the different categories like.. tourers, racers, modifiers or stunters.. so its just a medium by which ppl find happiness in different ways & you know everyone here loves there bike soo much... So its there way of finding happiness.

                    No offence!! 👍

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                    • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                      Then top speed should be tested on drag strip but people forget that too. Everything needs correct place time and knowledge too. And regarding happiness, I have been a stunter, is touring now for 8years and planning to hit the track soon too, but I never felt that these things (speed,acceleration etc) are much imortant than just being on the saddle. And I also think that this generation too should become a biker first and then racer/tourer/stunter.
                      Fare thee well xBhp, All the best for being the biggest name in corporate world

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                      • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                        Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
                        Then top speed should be tested on drag strip but people forget that too. Everything needs correct place time and knowledge too. And regarding happiness, I have been a stunter, is touring now for 8years and planning to hit the track soon too, but I never felt that these things (speed,acceleration etc) are much imortant than just being on the saddle. And I also think that this generation too should become a biker first and then racer/tourer/stunter.
                        Couldn't agree with you more. [emoji106]

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                        • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                          Originally posted by tanishq View Post
                          So according to you rtr200 has sepedo error of around 30kmph.. as he clearly said in the video motor beam guyz said that 3rd gear maxes out around 73kmph & he is showing 103kmph in his video i do admit that every bike has a speedo error but having error by this huge margin its not something that i can digest maybe the error will be around 10km more or less but 30kmph is a huge margin.
                          ?? where did i say 30 kmph speedo error? :O
                          my rtr 160 had a 15 kmph speedo error @ 120 kmph. i had checked.
                          ur just arguing for the sake of arguing.

                          i am just saying that 140 kmph is unrealistic for the bike, thats all, along with technical reasons as to why.
                          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...s-1-rider.html

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                          • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                            Originally posted by Kos View Post
                            ?? where did i say 30 kmph speedo error? :O
                            my rtr 160 had a 15 kmph speedo error @ 120 kmph. i had checked.
                            ur just arguing for the sake of arguing.

                            i am just saying that 140 kmph is unrealistic for the bike, thats all, along with technical reasons as to why.
                            Okh! Bro.. will find out as soon as i complete my 1k kms...
                            Peace 👍

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                            • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                              Break in procedure in detail -

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                              • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

                                Spotted this Matt grey 200. So parked beside it and took pics. We can see a huge difference in terms of design





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