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Agreed.. But then will the oil last 5k kms though it is fully synthetic.. after-all, it is oil cooled and not liquid cooled

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Hi all, Am in a thought of upgrade to RTR 200 from RTR160. Gone through all the positive reviews. Can u people let me know how much mileage it will give. Daily i will travel upto 60 Km in Hyderabad city in peak traffic time.

Thanks in Advance

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Depends more on the oil quality than engine type. Remember, Maruti has LC engines but it recommended mineral oils till 2012.

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Its a nice upgrade. Mileage Hovers around 32-34kmpl in peak traffic. Rest assured its a cool bike and very nimble on the road.

Hey Guys I have observed some oil droplets under my bike when its parked and not in use for 1 or 2 days in a stretch. Can't really figure out where does it leak from and its right below the engine cowl, is it normal to have some very little oil leak when parked for so long or is it some issue. Please suggest guys if its some problem i must explain to the SVC guys about the problem. I usually park outside my house since i have not much space to park it and i park with side stand not with center stand, does this in some way contribute to the leaking.
Help needed,
Regards

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My understanding was.. when the oil get hot, it tends to lose its capabilities.. as in, it loses its viscosity.. while oil cooled engines depend more on air to cool the oil, the chances of oil to last longer is less while that of Liquid cooled engines get better cooling thanks to the coolant fluid.. hence the oil has more life..

Please enlighten me with more details so that I can understand it better..

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Yes. RTR200 isn't a highly stressed engine and can do with non FS oils. If I had the bike, I would get the oil changed at every service and I would have pressed TVS SVC to use their own Tru4 mineral oil on my bike which they out in older RTRs.

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Let's ponder more on the logic you just posted above.

There are 2 bikes - RTR200 and R15
We put Shell AX7 Semi Synth in both. Will it last longer in R15?

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Can anyone confirm the availability of spares for rtr 200 at the SVC? (Bangalore)
I am looking for the turn indicators.

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That depends on city to city ... Generally tire1 cities get parts before tire2 cities..
In my place there are 4 accendental bikes in svc which are already suffering from parts scarcity.
I would say... confirm wid ur nearest svc as they can tell u better.

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Theoretically, yes. It should..

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You mean 200Vs ?

Which city ?

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Yes!! In ranchi...

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It won't. Maybe a couple of 100 km at max.
FS oils last longer because they're superior oils. They're more refined. An LC engine is air cooled too. It's radiator is air cooled. Even the engine benefits from it. Coolant aids this overall process by taking a good chunk of the job.
People who uss SS oils in R15/CBR report up to 2500-2700 km before it gets bad. Not much difference w.r.t air cooled bikes you see?

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ur right in the assumption that oils generally reduce in viscosity as they warm up. but engine oils have specific additives that not only enable the viscosity to remain, but infact increase on heating. suppose u put an oil of 10W30 rating. this means that the oil remains at 10 cst viscosity at 0 deg C and 30 cst at 100 deg C. not magic, just additives.

regarding your second question, technically all engines are air cooled, but the point is that a direct air cooled engine has cooling done on the cylinder while an oil cooled engine has an oil radiator. now the advantage of an oil cooled engine wrt an (traditionally) air cooled engine or a water cooled engine is that a radiator enables more efficient cooling as compared to an air cooled engine (due to larger heat transfer area inside the radiator) while the setup doesnt cost as much as a water cooled engine.

an oil is designed to run at a particular temperature, in the vicinity of 100 deg celcius. so do not worry about the engine oil life, as long as your oil cooling radiator is free of dirt (i dont know if there is a radiator fan)

and in any case, there must be a safety engine cut off for high engine oil temperature. this last point i am not sure tho. depends on the manufacturer...

as long as you do not abuse your engine by over revving it continuously, or by revving high when the oil is cold, you will not damage the oil. depending on the oil, you can use it as per oil manufacturers recommendation on engine oil change. in any case, do change oil every 6 months...

does this answer your doubts? feel free to ask for clarifications...

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Thank You very much

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