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  • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

    Its not worthy as it's a single channel on the front wheel ..there are many 200+ cc vehicles run without abs like bullets etc and in India where the traffic is so much and I think sudden braking is rare during High speeds .. i thing we can manage without abs as the brakes are not so great in fz25 which locks the wheels but if you guys still wanted abs then use cheap pads in the front which reduces bite and works like a drum brakes anyways rear brakes are like drum only ..this is my opinion on abs and yes I may be wrong too

    Adding abs to the existing bike is not easy and may not be possible and even if it's possible then it might not work as factory setup

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    • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

      i used to think same as in my 12 years of riding i never had a single accident, not even a minor fall. but last month front wheel got locked in 30-35 kph speed. weird thing is, it was clean dry tarmac where it happened, and i have done more aggressive braking in wet conditions where nothing happened. thankfully i was wearing full gears so nothing happened to me apart from internal wrist injury. but bike damages were almost 8k ( got bike back yesterday, thanks to insurance i only paid 870 something)


      so no matter what everyone says, yes it does worth every penny. imagine if it had abs, i could have completed my first 2k long bike ride in 3-4 days.


      as for retrofitting abs, it will work exactly like its supposed to, as long as everything required is changed just like new version. people have done it on d200 ( from d390) some on rtr200, and it works exactly like it should. in fz25's case, it will be much easier as it's same bike. only cost is an issue. parts are designed to be changed if something goes wrong. if only company can fix it does that mean if you face any failure in abs bikes, it will never work again ? as the bike never goes to company for repairs. people really have a lot of misconceptions regarding ABS and its workings. maybe after 3-4 months everything will be more clear.


      anyway, it's your money, your life. you should do whatever you want. i'm no one to tell you what you should do. it was just a suggestion.

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      Originally posted by Shamanth Gowda View Post
      Can we get abs installed for non abs bike from showroom?
      Nope, they don't know if company is going to allow it.

      but i'll be doing it myself. it will require lots of changes tho.

      1. wiring harness around 2.8k ( newer will be a bit more )
      2. new ABS modulator (dominar's cost 22k so it will be around that price depending on S/D channel)
      3. new console 3k ( newer will be a bit more )
      4. new ecu 3k ( newer will be a bit more )

      depending on if its single or dual channel abs,
      5. both rims 3300+4000 ( this isn't an issue for me as there are buyers for it already)
      6. new speed sensors 1 or 2x
      7. new brake hoses front/ rear
      8. right side front fork outer tube and many other small things.

      will be comparing parts catalog to see what's needed (already got Brazilian abs version's parts catalog)

      i'm thinking it should be less than 30k after selling old rims. it all depends on how much ABS modulator costs as that's the most expensive thing.

      that's cheaper than selling and buying new abs version. as resale value of this bike here is really not that much ( below 1L).


      for example there's a guy who did it on D200 using D390's parts. he didn't need to change rims as it had mounting holes already. our bike lacks it and i don't trust lathe workshops here to do a good job with it so i'll be replacing it instead.

      Fz25 2018 (ABS retrofitted)

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      • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

        Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
        I think sudden braking is rare during High speeds .. i thing we can manage without abs as the brakes are not so great in fz25 which locks the wheels but if you guys still wanted abs then use cheap pads in the front which reduces bite and works like a drum brakes anyways rear brakes are like drum only ..this is my opinion on abs and yes I may be wrong too
        ABS is useful even at crawling speeds. Have you ever braked hard at 20kmph on roads with a bit of sand? I've used bikes without ABS for 18 years. Now been using cbr250r ABS for 4. The amount of confidence with which it let's you pull on the brake levers is unbeatable if not for anything else.

        As about your idea of actually degrading braking performance so that the wheels don't lock... really? You don't think that causes more problems than it cures?

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        • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

          I don't know why people are so worried about not having abs now as earlier days we had cbz karizma jawa Enfield which are heavy bikes without abs and now not sure why that had become a need ..we were okay with drums brakes earlier and then when disk brakes became common people where happy about the performance of those in any 150cc above vehicles ..I understand that abs is an improvement in terms of safety but I guess it's not important if we compare to our olden days without that feature ..

          anyways fz25 will have abs in the front wheel so degrading that brake is more than enough as you can get the braking done with rear as well

          I'm okay without abs anyways and may be I'm totally wrong but abs but this is my opinion

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          • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

            Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
            I don't know why people are so worried about not having abs now as earlier days we had cbz karizma jawa Enfield which are heavy bikes without abs and now not sure why that had become a need ..we were okay with drums brakes earlier and then when disk brakes became common people where happy about the performance of those in any 150cc above vehicles ..I understand that abs is an improvement in terms of safety but I guess it's not important if we compare to our olden days without that feature ..

            anyways fz25 will have abs in the front wheel so degrading that brake is more than enough as you can get the braking done with rear as well

            I'm okay without abs anyways and may be I'm totally wrong but abs but this is my opinion
            I've had a crash at a 60+ kmph speed (on a bike with very poor tyre grip; not my bike) which would've never happened with ABS. Basically, I braked hard to avoid rear ending a slow rider, lost grip and fell down. But with ABS, I'd not have fallen but rear ended that guy with a speed difference of at least 30-40 kmph as there was no way to steer away.

            ABS is not a life saver as many people mention. It does prevent skids and wheel lock but will be of no use if one rides recklessly. Riding sane without ABS is any day safer than riding reckless with ABS but do not let this downplay the importance of ABS.

            Also, contrary to the popular belief, ABS may not decrease the braking distance but increases the braking distance and offers better control. It gives time to concentrate on steering away from an obstacle instead of concentrating on modulating the braking power.

            I'm also afraid that ABS will produce future riders who have no idea about threshold braking.

            I have a bike with no ABS. It has a strange behavior. No matter how hard I go on the front, it won't lock up at speeds above 60 kmph. But at low speeds, it may lock up under hard braking (real hard braking; full strength on the lever; unlilkely to use that much force usually). I've locked up the front once at around 40 kmph and once under 20 kmph, both the times on dry road with no loose sand/gravel while emergency braking. Fortunately, the speed was low enough for me to realize and get my bike back in control. The rear is an entirely different story. It can lock up at any speed if you press the rear brake pedal very hard.

            I know the exact point where my wheels will lockup and I stay below that point. I've locked up my wheels on very few occasions that can numbered. In retrospect, however, I feel that I must've got the ABS variant of my bike.

            Did you realize how risky is swapping to a cheap, less powerful brake pad, just to prevent wheel lock? Wheel lock occurs when the friction between the brake pads and the rotor is greater than the friction between the tyres and the tarmac. Instead of trying to decrease the friction between the brake pad and the rotor by getting cheap pads, opt to imcrease the friction between the tyres and the tarmac by getting a grippier tyre.

            BTW.... Do not underestimate drum brakes. The rear drum brakes in some bikes are more powerful than their disc counterparts.

            A good thing to provide IMO will be CBS with rear linked to the front (usually, the front is linked to the rear). Again, it will be useless to the majority population who live on the rear brakes.
            Last edited by ayrus; 01-01-2019, 11:49 PM.
            https://spkreviews.home.blog/index/

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            • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

              Heyy guys, I am looking on purchasing a new bike after the abs rules kicks in 😋.
              TBH I might buy fazer250 barely because of no options available ( gixer 250, Honda cbr300(if they make it in time) or new problem free dominar launches) as my major requirement is touring, I have access 125 for my city commutes.
              I am not very happy with the cost cutting done on fz25 and fazer250 looks better to me soo will take it as the only option left.
              I have no problem spending till 2-2.2L
              Need your honest opinion as I am very confused and don't have much options in this 250-300 segment.

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              • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                Originally posted by hd_hardikdesai View Post
                Heyy guys, I am looking on purchasing a new bike after the abs rules kicks in [emoji39].
                TBH I might buy fazer250 barely because of no options available ( gixer 250, Honda cbr300(if they make it in time) or new problem free dominar launches) as my major requirement is touring, I have access 125 for my city commutes.
                I am not very happy with the cost cutting done on fz25 and fazer250 looks better to me soo will take it as the only option left.
                I have no problem spending till 2-2.2L
                Need your honest opinion as I am very confused and don't have much options in this 250-300 segment.
                Buy cbr 250r or mojo xt 300 abs [emoji106]

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                • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                  Anyone who upgraded front tyres to 110/70, does it have any negative effects on handling of the bike ? any improvements?
                  Fz25 2018 (ABS retrofitted)

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                  • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                    Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                    Buy cbr 250r or mojo xt 300 abs [emoji106]
                    I don't appreciate Honda interested in selling only activas, hence no for cbr 250r and Mahendra mojo seams great but the life of it might end any day😂 and soo will be the resale value.
                    Hence Fazer 250, I didn't find a ownership thread for it which is active and could share the review of long term ownership.

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                    • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                      Originally posted by slopegatri View Post
                      Anyone who upgraded front tyres to 110/70, does it have any negative effects on handling of the bike ? any improvements?
                      I have, to masseters 110/70. Sorry
                      Wider contact patch, hence better braking. And no difference in handling. Completed 2k kms with it.

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                      • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                        Does anybody know which oe fuel injector this bike has ? Cost of replacement and how is the performance at least after 10k of odo?
                        Any periodic maintenance is needed ?

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                        • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                          Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
                          Does anybody know which oe fuel injector this bike has ? Cost of replacement and how is the performance at least after 10k of odo?
                          Any periodic maintenance is needed ?
                          There's only one injector. Cost of injector is almost 12000. To maintain injector performance, clean injector every 6000 kms at the SVC or use injector cleaning fluid every 3000 kms.

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                          • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                            How is ground clearance issue being taken care ?or live with it ?

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                            • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                              Originally posted by hd_hardikdesai View Post
                              Heyy guys, I am looking on purchasing a new bike after the abs rules kicks in [emoji39].
                              TBH I might buy fazer250 barely because of no options available ( gixer 250, Honda cbr300(if they make it in time) or new problem free dominar launches) as my major requirement is touring, I have access 125 for my city commutes.
                              I am not very happy with the cost cutting done on fz25 and fazer250 looks better to me soo will take it as the only option left.
                              I have no problem spending till 2-2.2L
                              Need your honest opinion as I am very confused and don't have much options in this 250-300 segment.
                              I'd say, go for Dominar.

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                              • Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                                Originally posted by leedonotrix View Post
                                I'd say, go for Dominar.
                                Yess, that's always the option but is there any difference between fz25 n Fazer 250 when compared in terms of handling, maintenance, reliability and cruising speeds or it's just the twin with some extra clothes on? Lol

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