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  • #226
    Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

    Originally posted by vengymgen View Post
    what is the mileage of rtr 160 4v in city and highway?
    Hi,

    I m around 4500 kms old with my bike, as of now i m getting around 38 -42 kmpl in city with some changes i made in my driving as i was getting 30 - 35 kmpl when i had my 1st and 2nd service and as i see der is gradual increase in the mileage which i can say that the machine is getting adjusted to my driving now. So, highways u can expect around 45 - 50 kmpl which i can say with my experience now.
    Safe ride,
    RebellionRiderRTR

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    • #227
      Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

      Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post
      Hi,

      I m around 4500 kms old with my bike, as of now i m getting around 38 -42 kmpl in city with some changes i made in my driving as i was getting 30 - 35 kmpl when i had my 1st and 2nd service and as i see der is gradual increase in the mileage which i can say that the machine is getting adjusted to my driving now. So, highways u can expect around 45 - 50 kmpl which i can say with my experience now.
      city mileage figures seems to be only slightly greater than of rtr 200, not a huge difference I guess. But highway mileage of 160 seems to be good.

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      • #228
        Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

        Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post
        If we want to know the accurate angle of the turning radius. Here you go https://itstillruns.com/calculate-mo...s-8493202.html
        Yeah it's clearly mentioned that the longer wheelbase will take a larger radius in U-TURNS !! as I had mentioned earlier .

        I hope wheelbase of Apache 4v is 1357mm which is a higher in its segment .
        (But shorter than pulsar 160 NS).


        Top bikes of 150-160cc segment and their wheelbases :

        1.Apache 160 - 1300mm
        Apache160 4v -1357mm

        2.Pulsar 150. - 1320mm
        Pulsar160NS -1363mm

        3.yamaha YZF R15
        V1, V2 - 1345mm
        V3(2018) - 1325mm

        Yamaha FZ v2 - 1330mm

        4.Suzuki Gixxer - 1330mm
        (Gixxer SF). (Same)

        5.Honda Xblade - 1347mm
        Honda Hornet160 - 1346mm

        I 've checked the above inputs are same as the mentioned in their companies catalogue .

        Lol here the least and the most wheelbase are APACHE 160 and 160 4v Respectively !!

        i.e (Apache 160 will have shorter turning radius and much easier one absolutely).

        The Apache 160 4v does get a larger turning radius
        Thanks
        Last edited by Aswinlogi; 06-16-2019, 04:00 PM.

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        • #229
          Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

          Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post
          Hi,

          I m around 4500 kms old with my bike, as of now i m getting around 38 -42 kmpl in city with some changes i made in my driving as i was getting 30 - 35 kmpl when i had my 1st and 2nd service and as i see der is gradual increase in the mileage which i can say that the machine is getting adjusted to my driving now. So, highways u can expect around 45 - 50 kmpl which i can say with my experience now.
          Oh you're supposed to get only 38-40~ mileage ?

          Well how did you calculated your mileage test ? Because riding the bike in reserve fuel won't give the exact fuel economy , Isn't it ?

          And many are saying just stick to the same fuel supplier (BPCL or HPCL or IOCL ) Although all have the fuel from the same refinery , how they good they are ? [How to check if the Petrol is adulterated/poor quality]

          Can anyone say how good is the ESSAR PETROL from the regular Petrols (BPCL,IOCL,HPCL).


          AND NO NEED TO DISCUSS ABOUT RON (Octane number) VALUES as these are 150-160 cc bikes .

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          • #230
            Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

            Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
            Yeah it's clearly mentioned that the longer wheelbase will take a larger radius in U-TURNS !! as I had mentioned earlier .

            I hope wheelbase of Apache 4v is 1357mm which is a higher in its segment .
            (But shorter than pulsar 160 NS).


            Top bikes of 150-160cc segment and their wheelbases :

            1.Apache 160 - 1300mm
            Apache160 4v -1357mm

            2.Pulsar 150. - 1320mm
            Pulsar160NS -1363mm

            3.yamaha YZF R15
            V1, V2 - 1345mm
            V3(2018) - 1325mm

            Yamaha FZ v2 - 1330mm

            4.Suzuki Gixxer - 1330mm
            (Gixxer SF). (Same)

            5.Honda Xblade - 1347mm
            Honda Hornet160 - 1346mm

            I 've checked the above inputs are same as the mentioned in their companies catalogue .

            Lol here the least and the most wheelbase are APACHE 160 and 160 4v Respectively !!

            i.e (Apache 160 will have shorter turning radius and much easier one absolutely).

            While Apache 160 4v does get a larger turning radius and BTW ONE SHOULD BE LITTLE CAREFUL WHILE U-TURNS & CORNERING !!!

            Thanks ,

            Any suggestions are welcomed !!!
            It says
            Turn radius = 2 × [wheelbase/sine(90°–wheel angle)]

            As you said, the shortest wheelbase here is 1300 mm and the longest is 1357 mm. The difference is just 57 mm. 57 mm compared to ~1300 mm is about 4% which will be barely noticable.

            In the RTR 4v models, the wheel angle can't go beyond 35° (I don't know the exact angle but it is siginficantly less than 45°) while the FZ can easily do 45°. Take this into account and you'll get a 15-20% difference.

            Taking U-turns in narrow streets is a pain in the a**
            [Personal experience – max r100 could just take a U-turn in my street by I've to take my 200 4v back and forth 2 or 3 times]
            https://spkreviews.home.blog/index/

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            • #231
              Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

              Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
              Oh you're supposed to get only 38-40~ mileage ?

              Well how did you calculated your mileage test ? Because riding the bike in reserve fuel won't give the exact fuel economy , Isn't it ?

              And many are saying just stick to the same fuel supplier (BPCL or HPCL or IOCL ) Although all have the fuel from the same refinery , how they good they are ? [How to check if the Petrol is adulterated/poor quality]

              Can anyone say how good is the ESSAR PETROL from the regular Petrols (BPCL,IOCL,HPCL).


              AND NO NEED TO DISCUSS ABOUT RON (Octane number) VALUES as these are 150-160 cc bikes .
              Okay, if in depth

              Petrol Source: Indian Oil

              Mileage test details:
              Petrol in tank: 7 litres
              Trip meter : Set to 00
              Petrol Reserve: ON

              Wait till petrol warning symbol is ON.

              Mileage test last reading from trip meter - 294.2 kms

              I always get petrol in litres than in figures and pay with credit card. Trip meter 1 will be cleared for every visit 7 - 0 litres and 0 - max kms of the trip. Trip meter 2 will be from service to service so to understand my reading between services. Speedomoeter always set at 100, even if i got 122 on it cos police also once checked my bike at night near Outer ring road about speed in Speedometer, techie police just to keep check on race bikes. Petrol - always from INdian oil since da day i bought the bike, no superstitious or belief on Indian Oil its just only because i get reward points on my Citi indian oil card. Next time i ll get a snap of my trip 1 meter before zero just for proof.

              ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----
              Last edited by RebellionRiderRTR; 10-03-2018, 02:28 PM. Reason: duplication
              Safe ride,
              RebellionRiderRTR

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              • #232
                Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post
                Okay, if in depth

                Petrol Source: Indian Oil

                Mileage test details:
                Petrol in tank: 7 litres
                Trip meter : Set to 00
                Petrol Reserve: ON

                Wait till petrol warning symbol is ON.

                Mileage test last reading from trip meter - 294.2 kms

                I always get petrol in litres than in figures and pay with credit card. Trip meter 1 will be cleared for every visit 7 - 0 litres and 0 - max kms of the trip. Trip meter 2 will be from service to service so to understand my reading between services. Speedomoeter always set at 100, even if i got 122 on it cos police also once checked my bike at night near Outer ring road about speed in Speedometer, techie police just to keep check on race bikes. Petrol - always from INdian oil since da day i bought the bike, no superstitious or belief on Indian Oil its just only because i get reward points on my Citi indian oil card. Next time i ll get a snap of my trip 1 meter before zero just for proof.

                ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----
                Oh that sounds great .

                Thanks RebellionRider RTR , no proof needed just to clarify I asked !

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                • #233
                  Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                  Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                  Oh that sounds great .

                  Thanks RebellionRider RTR , no proof needed just to clarify I asked !
                  Haha I m jus kidding meanwhile the above readings are with a pillion ON so I think if without pillion I can easily get 45 kmpl
                  Last edited by RebellionRiderRTR; 10-03-2018, 02:51 PM.
                  Safe ride,
                  RebellionRiderRTR

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                  • #234
                    Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                    Originally posted by RebellionRiderRTR View Post
                    Haha I m jus kidding meanwhile the above readings are with a pillion ON so I think if without pillion I can easily get 45 kmpl
                    OMG , If not with pillion then you must be getting 45+ kmpl easily on city !

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                    • #235
                      Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                      Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                      OMG , If not with pillion then you must be getting 45+ kmpl easily on city !
                      Yeah dats what so dis bike is giving me immense pleasure in dat way. To drive and also to survive (petrol prices )
                      Safe ride,
                      RebellionRiderRTR

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                      • #236
                        Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                        Originally posted by ayrus View Post
                        They're not lean angles. They're approximate angles the handlebar can be turned from the mid position.

                        Locked doesn't mean an actual lock. It is the maximum possible angle of turn.
                        https://youtu.be/J73XRDGPcpE


                        Hope this clip will throw some light on cornering !!!

                        No wheelbase naaa naa ....it's only the chassis of the bike and build structure gives the leaning angles.

                        OMG: Rossi renowned R1 M (motogp) has got 1450mm wheelbase (superbike) and its the most lean able bike till 64° .

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                        • #237
                          Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                          Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                          https://youtu.be/J73XRDGPcpE

                          Hope this clip will throw some light on cornering !!!

                          No wheelbase naaa naa ....it's only the chassis of the bike and build structure gives the leaning angles.

                          OMG: Rossi renowned R1 M (motogp) has got 1450mm wheelbase (superbike) and its the most lean able bike till 64° .
                          I was never talking about lean angles. I was only telling about the maximum angle that the handlebar could be turned on the either side and how it affects the turn radius.
                          https://spkreviews.home.blog/index/

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                          • #238
                            Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                            Handlebar will be mostly turn to either direction in all bikes !! ,to the same extent.

                            However THE TURNING RADIUS IS DETERMINED by the wheelbase (only) of the bike !!

                            Whether it's scooty ,Duke or Hayabusa whatever!!!

                            Don't get confuse !!

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                            • #239
                              Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                              Handlebar will be mostly turn to either direction in all bikes !! ,to the same extent.

                              However THE TURNING RADIUS IS DETERMINED by the wheelbase (only) of the bike !!

                              Whether it's scooty ,Duke or Hayabusa whatever!!!

                              Don't get confuse !!
                              Going by your logic, the turning radius of the RTR 160 must be 3677 mm (3.7 m) and that of the RTR 160 4v must be 3838 mm (3.8 m) assuming the angle of turn to be 45° and the turning radius of all other bikes you mentioned in your previous post must be within this range, which is not true. Also even if it is the case, the difference here is small enough to be negligible.

                              If you see, the handlebar of the Splendor can be turned by more than 45° to either side but in an R15 v3, it is just 33° (see "steering angle" in R15 v3 official website for confirmation)

                              Just go to a TVS showroom and see how much you are able to turn the handlebar of the RTR 4v models and see for yourself.
                              https://spkreviews.home.blog/index/

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                              • #240
                                Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by ayrus View Post
                                I was never talking about lean angles. I was only telling about the maximum angle that the handlebar could be turned on the either side and how it affects the turn radius.
                                Yeah [MENTION=96476]ayrus[/MENTION] at last found a appropriate name what we were searching for !!

                                It's rake /caster angle that varies from different kind of motorbikes and they have a certain degree too.

                                Check it :
                                How Rake/Caster Angle Defines A Motorcycle? » BikesMedia.in
                                https://www.bikesmedia.in/reviews/how-rake-caster-angle-defines-a-motorcycle.html
                                Bike reviews of all Indian motorcyle brands by experts and users. Latest bike reviews by experts, full road test reviews with star ratings for performance, milage, features and comfort

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