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  • #466
    Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

    Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
    Yeah I 've probably stalled bike many times in second gear !!!

    The beast is good to ride on speeds above 12km/ph at second gear ,orelse it will stall !
    Yes, first and second gears are comparatively short.

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    • #467
      Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

      Originally posted by sayantan91 View Post
      Hi bikers!!

      I am planning to buy 160 4v but the FI variant. It seems though, there is some availability issue with the FI variant. Most of the dealers in Kolkata are not able to deliver the FI variant, as per them the supply of FI variant from TVS is almost nill.

      If anyone here has experienced the same thing, please share. Also, if anyone here have a FI one please share your buying experience.
      I too have never seen the FI variant of 160 4v ,as it's costing more 8K bucks than carb variant, I hope so none is buying it!

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      • #468
        Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

        Originally posted by sayantan91 View Post
        Hi bikers!!

        I am planning to buy 160 4v but the FI variant. It seems though, there is some availability issue with the FI variant. Most of the dealers in Kolkata are not able to deliver the FI variant, as per them the supply of FI variant from TVS is almost nill.

        If anyone here has experienced the same thing, please share. Also, if anyone here have a FI one please share your buying experience.
        I've seen a few FI bikes but I must say that they are very rare. The differences are white (orange) backlit speedo, a gear position indicator (absent), 60/55W (35/35W) headlamp in the FI version (carbed version in brackets. And one more thing is obviously the FI system.

        The FI model may offer 2-3 kmph higher fuel efficiency, and a smoother engine (the carb version itself is very smooth, as smooth as the FZ). It also offers 0.3 bhp more power which is negligible.

        All these come at 7k premium over the carb version. If you pay 6k more, you can get 40cc and 4bhp which is a significant upgrade.
        https://spkreviews.home.blog/index/

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        • #469
          Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

          Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
          I've checked the possible speeds the engine can do without stalling
          Motorcycle makes peak torque at 6.5k RPM, so better maintain that as your shifting benchmark, reason being if you shift too low then that could reduce life of components. Plus the motorcycle works at its best where it makes peak torque i.e best performance and fuel efficiency.
          Motorcycling Experience:
          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

          The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
          Adios Comrades!
          A.P. 2018

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          • #470
            Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

            Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
            Motorcycle makes peak torque at 6.5k RPM, so better maintain that as your shifting benchmark, reason being if you shift too low then that could reduce life of components. Plus the motorcycle works at its best where it makes peak torque i.e best performance and fuel efficiency.
            Do you suggest shifting at the peak torque?? I own an RTR 200 and peak torque comes in at 7k rpm. At 7k rpm, I can do 60kmph in 3rd and 75kmph in 4th, which means I can complete most of my city rides in the 3rd cog!!

            I usually shift at 4-4.5k rpm.
            https://spkreviews.home.blog/index/

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            • #471
              Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

              Originally posted by ayrus View Post
              Do you suggest shifting at the peak torque?? I own an RTR 200 and peak torque comes in at 7k rpm. At 7k rpm, I can do 60kmph in 3rd and 75kmph in 4th, which means I can complete most of my city rides in the 3rd cog!!

              I usually shift at 4-4.5k rpm.
              That's how I ride the P220 with stock sprockets on, the 4th and 5th gears are seldom used.

              Just because you have a few more cogs left doesn't mean you have to be riding them at all times, and contrary to popular belief immediately shifting to final drive doesn't improve fuel efficiency it rather does the opposite.
              Motorcycling Experience:
              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
              Adios Comrades!
              A.P. 2018

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              • #472
                Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                That's how I ride the P220 with stock sprockets on, the 4th and 5th gears are seldom used.

                Just because you have a few more cogs left doesn't mean you have to be riding them at all times, and contrary to popular belief immediately shifting to final drive doesn't improve fuel efficiency it rather does the opposite.
                Yeah I agree with that and I have a doubt !

                What happens if we ride for an example 10 kms on third gear sanely ?
                will the engine gets stressed/ what about mileage figures?

                Though I have munched a lot of miles right from childhood , yet to learn the inner depth of the engines!!

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                • #473
                  Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                  Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                  What happens if we ride for an example 10 kms on third gear sanely ?
                  will the engine gets stressed/ what about mileage figures?
                  nothing will happen to the engine. if you are able to ride the 10km without much stop go traffic the fe should be pretty decent.

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                  • #474
                    Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                    That's how I ride the P220 with stock sprockets on, the 4th and 5th gears are seldom used.

                    Just because you have a few more cogs left doesn't mean you have to be riding them at all times, and contrary to popular belief immediately shifting to final drive doesn't improve fuel efficiency it rather does the opposite.
                    Whenever I try to ride at 6k+ rpm and overtake someone, they think that I'm try to pick up a race with them. Especially those guys who ride 150-160 cc bike with random stickers, no rear mudguard/tyrehugger/fender, folded or no RVMs and no helmets (read as SQUIDS). Within 3-5 secs of overtaking them, they rev past me and weave through traffic, risking themselves and also others. If it happens, I increase a gear and drop some speed.
                    https://spkreviews.home.blog/index/

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                    • #475
                      Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                      Originally posted by ayrus View Post
                      Whenever I try to ride at 6k+ rpm and overtake someone, they think that I'm try to pick up a race with them. Especially those guys who ride 150-160 cc bike with random stickers, no rear mudguard/tyrehugger/fender, folded or no RVMs and no helmets (read as SQUIDS). Within 3-5 secs of overtaking them, they rev past me and weave through traffic, risking themselves and also others. If it happens, I increase a gear and drop some speed.
                      Originally posted by ayrus View Post
                      Do you suggest shifting at the peak torque?? I own an RTR 200 and peak torque comes in at 7k rpm. At 7k rpm, I can do 60kmph in 3rd and 75kmph in 4th, which means I can complete most of my city rides in the 3rd cog!!

                      I usually shift at 4-4.5k rpm.
                      Power and torque are different and both have different work transfers. The right RPM would be to shift somewhere around 6.2 to 6.4K rpm for best engine performance and good torque and power spread on your RTR 160 4V. Power is on the higher side, and power doesn't do much good, especially on a single cylinder. Power helps you keep the momentum. It's where the torque and power curve get even, that's the sweet spot and the RPM that the engine best works.

                      Squids are everywhere, and are one too many, everyone have encountered them in their life, there is a saying lesser the knowledge, more the ego. Don't given heed to them, they are squids for a reason. Focus on your own business, concentrate on the road in front of you, this way you ride safe. Don't bother.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                      The girl said, 'NO!'


                      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                      THE END

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                      • #476
                        Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                        Guys I almost emptied the tank and filled some Xtrapremium petrol and gonna feel nice response from the engine !!
                        * A increased Speeds in lower RPMs can be felt !!!, Beyond the mark than the regular petrol (91 RON ) .

                        PS: Before i've used SPEED from BPCL , but Xtrapremium sounds good [emoji1360]

                        * Rs.2-3 higher per litre than the normal ones.

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                        • #477
                          Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                          Power and torque are different and both have different work transfers. The right RPM would be to shift somewhere around 6.2 to 6.4K rpm for best engine performance and good torque and power spread on your RTR 160 4V. Power is on the higher side, and power doesn't do much good, especially on a single cylinder. Power helps you keep the momentum. It's where the torque and power curve get even, that's the sweet spot and the RPM that the engine best works.

                          Squids are everywhere, and are one too many, everyone have encountered them in their life, there is a saying lesser the knowledge, more the ego. Don't given heed to them, they are squids for a reason. Focus on your own business, concentrate on the road in front of you, this way you ride safe. Don't bother.

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Yeah wherever we go , we will face squids -its better to be calm and ignore them !! That's Good !

                          Q: If an engine delivers the max power at some RPM eg. Apache4v 160 delivers (16.5HP) power @ 8,000 RPM ,then what's the Sweetspot &
                          At what RPMs does the engine feels unstressed??

                          Any idea??

                          Thanks in advance ,

                          Cheers,
                          Ride safe.

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                          • #478
                            Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                            Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
                            Yeah wherever we go , we will face squids -its better to be calm and ignore them !! That's Good !

                            Q: If an engine delivers the max power at some RPM eg. Apache4v 160 delivers (16.5HP) power @ 8,000 RPM ,then what's the Sweetspot &
                            At what RPMs does the engine feels unstressed??

                            Any idea??

                            Thanks in advance ,

                            Cheers,
                            Ride safe.
                            The exact RPM I said above 6.2 to 6.4 for both performance and vibe free motor.

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                            The girl said, 'NO!'


                            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                            THE END

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                            • #479
                              Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                              The exact RPM I said above 6.2 to 6.4 for both performance and vibe free motor.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ
                              I hope @6.5 RPMs this beast can do 70-80 easily !

                              Cheers,
                              [emoji1360][emoji173]️

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                              • #480
                                Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                                Motorcycle makes peak torque at 6.5k RPM, so better maintain that as your shifting benchmark, reason being if you shift too low then that could reduce life of components. Plus the motorcycle works at its best where it makes peak torque i.e best performance and fuel efficiency.
                                Hey ashwin, I read what you have said here and tried on today's ride. Man then I realised I never reached 6- 6.5k rpm till now...the engine makes alot of noise and yea it easily reaches 80kmph.

                                But I need to understand how riding/shifting gear at 6.5k rpm really helps, bcz today I experienced putting alot of stress on the engine.

                                I'm new to this kind off thing so please bare me for novice questions..

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