Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

6-6.5 K is the sweet spot for the engine yup,but you can't follow that strategy during peak traffic hours or within city limits!!
However you can just shift around 4.5-5.5 RPMs at least in the first three gears....

Cheers,
Ride safe.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

There are a lot of variables involved, hence why I suggested the thumb rule to stick to peak torque as that is the point where the motor runs at peak efficiency, meaning on a level plain it won't do you any harm riding a taller gear at lower speeds but as load increases say due to luggage or incline or both then significant load is transferred to the motor.

In a single pot there is one power stroke per 2 rotations of the crank and the load when there is excess load and the RPM drops what happens is that the firing power instead of being evenly transferred to the bearings gets focused on a part of it and since there is more load than the motor is designed to carry all other components such as the piston, conrod, small/big end bearings are also being put under tremendous stress.

Hence why it makes more sense to ride at a higher RPM than a lower one, especially under load. Also if you look around anyone who thumps around in a higher gear at lower speeds would be facing issues such as lower FE and earlier engine rebuilds.

As for the grunt, its normal, and unless you hear anything unusual say the timing chain banging around or something as such it would be safe to ignore it, plus if you use a ECE/Sharp rated helmet you wont even notice the grunt.

I know that feel.

The exact opposite of this is someone pulling a lazy overtake, risking his/her life as well as everyone else's. For some reason our people do not understand that overtaking should be done with surgical precision within the power-band.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

Wait what ??

This machine should do 90-100 flawlessly !!
How could you justify, you're hearing noises ! As I didn't feel so...Yeah probably I too stalling the bike at second gear mostly !

I do know ,that the acceleration shouldn't be at par while releasing (half) the clutch lever .As it'd endup in grinding the clutch plates ,but should be concious about it.

Clearly at speeds below 12km/ph @2nd gear ,the bike starts lagging and stall!

Any suggestions are welcome !!
Shall I use half clutch play in traffic or any other tips ?

Thanks,
Ride safe.

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I always try to reduce usage of half clutch. When there is time and room to downshift, always do so to avoid wearing clutch. Yes that means sometimes you downshift to 1st gear as well when in motion if speed is too low or load is high. I have followed this in all my years of riding and never had to replace clutch (or gears )

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Yep! I will say it again this bike vibrates post 5.5k rmp but not as much as other 160cc bikes. But it vibrates buddy I can feel it.

OR does this only happen with my bike. Well next service I'll get it checked and clarified.

It seems like in this blog I'm the only person who has got little issues with the bike😅..I tell about self start thing, vibrations and the main one kitha dhetha hai (37kmpl).

Whatever it is, I love riding it man!

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Whatever it be you will get things to be fine, just say all the flaws to the ASC(during service) ,if possible inspect their job !!
Yeah I too faced cold start issues atfirst, but after find myself to start the bike without trouble.

*Just use a kick start (which is recommended during morning starts and this ensures a good life of kicker )and then deliberately give throttle acceleration to 2K-3K RPMs for atleast 20-30 secs (only in the mornings as the engine tends to cold Start).

*Or after switching the fuel knob ,use a choke and then electric starter within few secs !! (Don't delay the choke and starting time) .
By this method I've found hassle free starts [emoji1360].


PS: DON'T PULL THE CHOKE FOR LONG DURATION AS ENGINE WON'T CRANKUP SOON (due to High overflow of PETROL).


Cheers,
Ride safe.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

How much kilometers have you covered now, it will get smooth over time , just do the proper servicing.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

My 1604v has completed 2200 Kms and sharing my experience on the points being discussed:

Cold start - Doesn't matter its cold or warm start the bike never starts in the first kick or button press (may be I am paranoid and dont keep the self start button pressed for more than a second) . 95% of the times it starts in the second try, and the rest 5% of times it starts in third try. That means from my experience so far the bike is guaranteed to start by third try. Once it starts keep the throttle slightly open at 2k RPM for about 5 secs and then it wont stop. My cold idle RPM is 1K and hot idle rpm is 1200-1400.

Vibrations - I have revved it max upto 6500-7000 RPM and usually does it once or twice a day as road conditions allow, and max speed so far is 90 KMPH. There is a slight buzz in the foot pegs post 5500 RPM and it doesnt cause any discomfort, especially if you were shoes with thicker rubber sole. There are no buzz or vibrations felt in handle bar or seat.

Mileage - Usually its in 37-39 Kms/ltr range and its mostly city riding in normal to heavy traffic. Also mileage is calculated over a period of few days so that means several stops and starts in between. May be if I ride continuously with just 1 ltr of petrol to test mileage it could go above 40.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

At what rpm apache 160 4v touches or cruises at 100 kmph...?? Also let me know that how comfortable it feels cruising at 100 kmph...??

Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

I think 100kmph is asking a bit too much from a ~150cc motorcycle (unless it's an R15 or CBR150R). But then again, owners will be able to answer this better.

Someone mentioned that it touches around 80kmph at 6500rpm, so it could reach the ton at around 7000-7500rpm.

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That's where you are wrong bro. The 160 4v can do 100 kmph with a pillion!! It does take some time to reach that speed but once it reaches that speed, it can maintain that speed without any difficulty. Do note that if ridden solo, then 100 kmph would come more easily. Also it was a bit scary at that speed as the bike did not feel very stable (the bike didn't wobble but still, it did not inspire confidence to hold that speed – this is with a pillion; solo experience may wary) and the brakes didn't feel like they'd bring the bike to a halt in case of emergency.

Coming to question, it does 100 kmph at 8k rpm.

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That's what I am not sure about. I have ridden the Hornet and Gixxer, they weren't very comfortable at 100kmph for long periods.

8k RPM is quite high, I wouldn't maintain 100 continuously on this bike considering that it produces max power at this RPM.

Ideally I would maintain 80-90kmph and not more on these 150ccs. Bursts of 100+ are fine though. It's a comfortable speed and there's some reserve power as well.

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Thanks a lot for the reply bro. So what is the ideal cruising speed for apache 160 with and without pillion...??

Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

If it can do 100kmph with ease , then it's undoubtedly the best 160cc air cooled segment motorcycle in india, hats off to tvs for making such a nice product.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 160 4V Ownership Experience

Perfectly normal, recently shifted to the stock sprockets on my P220 and during city runs within TVM I've noticed a considerable drop in FE, before for 1k fuel the motorcycle would run for over 500 KM's without breaking a sweat and now the range has dropped to over 350 KM's. Which again is normal as the stock gearing is highway centric.

Vibrations are normal for any single cylinder motorcycle, its part of the design irrespective of the number of balancers present. Over time you automatically ignore them.

The cold start character is nothing but normal, just hold on to the starter a bit more and the motorcycle would fire up in the first go itself. Even if it doesn't its not a matter of concern because at the end of it all the motorcycle still starts and runs fine.

Hope you cover many more trouble free miles.

Cheers
A.P.