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  • Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
    I didnt expect even myself to be a victim of this thing. But at least it has been sorted out.

    The handlebar vibrations are still there. It starts from 4k and stays all the way. Earlier it used to vanish after 5k. Any idea what might be the problem? I had tightened the nuts and bolts.
    Vibrations can be blamed to multitude of factors and in the case of the RTR they are just too much and really tough to point out the 'exact' root cause.

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    • Originally posted by pankajsingh5k View Post
      Okay guys i am very worried...

      this may sound like paranoia but today while cleaning the bike i found it had around 3 black spots in the tank..my RTR 180 is white in color and these minute black spots are looking like insect droppings but when i tried cleaning them i found that the paint was gone.....

      has anyone else faced this??? i just bought the bike on 9th june this month and now this is happening...
      Hi pankaj...dont worry even i bought my bike in the 1st week of june..even i have such black spots under the petrol tank lid..mine is also a white rtr..it looks like some kind of air bubble..

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      • OMG. I hit 10k rpm in 4th gear, today!!

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        • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
          OMG. I hit 10k rpm in 4th gear, today!!
          Make sure ur brother does'nt read this

          What was the speed? I hit 11.5k rpm in 4th....speed was ~122kmph. Mine is RTR 160 (for those who dont know)
          Last edited by onlinesatish; 06-27-2010, 11:59 PM.
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          • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
            What was the speed? I hit 11.5k rpm in 4th....speed was ~122kmph. Mine is RTR 160 (for those who dont know)

            Mannnnnn. how you managed that?
            There's lot to it other than saddle....


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            • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
              got that, but what about the pin which runs along with the spring??
              can it create some hiccups issues??

              You mean jet needle?

              Naaaa. it cant result in hiccups. As long as you physically damage it.
              There's lot to it other than saddle....


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              • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                What was the speed? I hit 11.5k rpm in 4th....speed was ~122kmph. Mine is RTR 160 (for those who dont know)

                Slope or straight???
                i guarentee it was slope na.....

                Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                You mean jet needle?

                Naaaa. it cant result in hiccups. As long as you physically damage it.

                Na the needle that runs in the centre of the diaphram...
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                • Apache RTR 180

                  Kms logged: 1876 KMs
                  Date of Purchase:13/2/2010

                  Free services completed : 2 (Any other small niggles corrected at service center only)

                  Parts replaced : One way clutch under warranty,
                  RTR Emblem sticker on handle bar(stupid design..this was stolen twice..could have been a screw type)

                  Final conclusion:

                  1. The bike had the one way clutch problem from the beginning...nearly begged the svc guy to replace it under warranty before it failed but he bluffed something about company policy.And at last the inevitable happened...one beautiful evening in middle of NH road while in heavy traffic..tried to start the engine and there was a loud bang and the one way clutch shattered.The bike did not start even with kicker.Had to push the bike about a KM to the SVC guy who asked me to wait two days for the part to arrive...
                  Anyway at last got it changed and I don't think the problem is fully solved with new replacement either.

                  2. Then there is the engine/Electrics on-off switch...doesnt work properly often..have to push it twice to start.Although small..really annoying..

                  3. There are some points in the chassis/frame which have started rusting.I don't know what to do!

                  4. The carb was not tuned properly at delivery and the mileage was constantly 30 Km/litre.When I asked them to tune it at 400kms,they said its not good to tune carb till at least 1k kms.
                  So at the second free service (at ODO ~1200 KM) they tuned it and then got mileage of 35 km/lit and also with it Hiccup problem..The guy at SVC still doent know what to do...this is most annoying when in city traffic and i feel the has lost some power and i really think the bike has more to offer in mileage terms...

                  4. Handlebar locks are hard to activate with the key getting stuck...


                  Questions:

                  1. Is it Ok to ask for a second replacement of oneway clutch and also a new carb under warranty??

                  2. Is there any other solution for the hiccup problem other than replacement??
                  ..and please tell me in a way so that i can pass on the method to the SVC guy..

                  3.Is it okay to pour lubricating oil in the keyhole..or is there any other way to loosen the lock mechanism ??

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                  • Originally posted by harish619 View Post
                    Apache RTR 180

                    Questions:

                    1. Is it Ok to ask for a second replacement of oneway clutch and also a new carb under warranty??

                    2. Is there any other solution for the hiccup problem other than replacement??
                    ..and please tell me in a way so that i can pass on the method to the SVC guy..

                    3.Is it okay to pour lubricating oil in the keyhole..or is there any other way to loosen the lock mechanism ??
                    Tune the carb with an experienced mechanic, this will solve the problem easily. Both the idle and main jet screws needs to be adjusted properly to solve this problem.

                    Just use a chain lubricant to free the keyhole. It will penetrate and clean properly than an oil. Never park your bike in an open space/rain. This is the reason for rust and key hole problem.

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                    • Originally posted by thmh201 View Post
                      Hi pankaj...dont worry even i bought my bike in the 1st week of june..even i have such black spots under the petrol tank lid..mine is also a white rtr..it looks like some kind of air bubble..
                      I've applied teflon coating over the bike. So any bird/insect droppings can be cleaned with water without scrapping

                      if it is a air bubble while painting, then cant do anything

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                      • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

                        Slope or straight???
                        i guarentee it was slope na.....




                        Na the needle that runs in the centre of the diaphram...
                        Yep......but i hit 11.5k after a small slope.....but it helped a lot!
                        07 HH Zma
                        11 Honda Aviator DLX
                        14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
                        16 Scooty Zest
                        11 CBR 250R

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                        • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                          Make sure ur brother does'nt read this

                          What was the speed? I hit 11.5k rpm in 4th....speed was ~122kmph. Mine is RTR 160 (for those who dont know)
                          He's my younger brother, dude. He wont say anything!!

                          At 10krpm it was some 114-115km/hr and yes it was a slope too

                          But later on the day i hit 11krpm in 3rd gear. the speed was 91-92km/hr!!

                          I wonder if we can hit 11krpm in 5th gear(with slope).The 180 should be hitting close to 150km/hr, if that's possible.

                          Originally posted by harish619 View Post
                          Final conclusion:

                          1. The bike had the one way clutch problem from the beginning...nearly begged the svc guy to replace it under warranty before it failed but he bluffed something about company policy.And at last the inevitable happened...one beautiful evening in middle of NH road while in heavy traffic..tried to start the engine and there was a loud bang and the one way clutch shattered.The bike did not start even with kicker.Had to push the bike about a KM to the SVC guy who asked me to wait two days for the part to arrive...

                          That's really scary. TVS should carry out a recall of some sorts. It would be a shame on TVS part if they dont do so.

                          2. Then there is the engine/Electrics on-off switch...doesnt work properly often..have to push it twice to start.Although small..really annoying..

                          Replace the whole switch gear-assembly if the problem persists.

                          Questions:

                          1. Is it Ok to ask for a second replacement of oneway clutch and also a new carb under warranty??

                          New carb is unlikely but you will get the one-way clutch under warranty. But i think the replaced parts warranty period stands valid for 1 year.

                          3.Is it okay to pour lubricating oil in the keyhole..or is there any other way to loosen the lock mechanism ??

                          Yes it's Ok
                          Answers in Bolds!!

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                          • Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                            Got my one way clutch and the TCI changed under warranty. The mechanic (from another service center, not from the place where i generally get my bike serviced) who serviced my bike asked me to do it because there were some weird gunshot like sounds coming at times when the engine was switching off. He said its a common problem in most 180s
                            What does TCI stands for? Is one way clutch is related to electric starter? I also have to change it....but how should i approach mechanic....i mean what to say them to get replacement.

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                            • Originally posted by amar_r15 View Post
                              What does TCI stands for? Is one way clutch is related to electric starter? I also have to change it....but how should i approach mechanic....i mean what to say them to get replacement.
                              TCi stands for Transistor Controlled Ignition. Yes the one-way clutch is related to the electric starter. Are you experiencing any noise while applying the starter early morning?

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                              • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

                                Slope or straight???
                                i guarentee it was slope na.....




                                Na the needle that runs in the centre of the diaphram...

                                @Dear Renny, That needle is called as jet needle..
                                There's lot to it other than saddle....


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