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**Garry_Menace** · 09-06-2011, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by shivank View Post

Abysmal! Sorry about that, but I feel you have been lucky enough to get figures of above 35kmpl. More is never enough, like they say.

Some updates about my bike. The bike vibrates horribly from front. At speeds over 60 kph+hands-off (Thanks to social for this technique, I had nearly killed myself ), front starts to wobble slowly and the whole thing begins to jiggle! I can't understand whether it's the suspension or the wheels that are out on alignment. Tried inquiring about this at Aditi TVS and there reply,as usual, was this," Kya bhaiya,Apachiiiiiii toh vibrate karti hi hai"

Please, feel free to advice anything xbhpians. I would like to hear from each one of you. Everyday, I ride with my hands glued to the handlebar. It's no more a handlebar now, it's my life now..

I think it could be an alignment problem. Get it checked from a better SVC though its very tough to find a good SVC as we belong to TVS

IMO, as it is not related to engine/electricals, you can consult an experienced mechanic for this.

@Pranav

I am getting 39-40kmpl in mixed riding. Measured it around a month ago, will note the readings for next reserve-to-reserve I if remember

Even I feel that its not enough, but, as Shivi said... more is never enough

**pranav_salieri** · 09-07-2011, 12:03 AM

@ drifty- i have lubed the chain and the tyre pressure is correct- i cant live with this mileage

@shivank and garry!!!!- even i facing the same FU****ing problem i cant stand it the bike wobbles at 56-57 kmh when i take my hands off!

what bout this??-also when the engine is cold the vibes are almost nil(during mornings) and during afternoons it vibrates like hell (35also when the engine is cold the vibes are almost nil(during mornings) and during afternoons it vibrates like hell (35km/h and above) km/h and above)

**Garry_Menace** · 09-07-2011, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@ drifty- i have lubed the chain and the tyre pressure is correct- i cant live with this mileage

@shivank and garry!!!!- even i facing the same FU****ing problem i cant stand it the bike wobbles at 56-57 kmh when i take my hands off!

what bout this??-also when the engine is cold the vibes are almost nil(during mornings) and during afternoons it vibrates like hell (35also when the engine is cold the vibes are almost nil(during mornings) and during afternoons it vibrates like hell (35km/h and above) km/h and above)

Yes, the vibes DO increase with temperature, but just with the atmospheric temperature of same season (I mean, the moring and noon thingie) shouldn't have such noticeable effect. Vibes do increase when the engine becomes hot on long or revvy rides, but I haven't experienced the morning and noon thingie till now.

P.S. Even I my bike has the alignment/fork problem (don't know what exactly is the culprit). But, unlike yours and Shivi's case, my bike don't wobble usually. It just keep going to one side if I try to leave hands while riding and the deviation is to that extent that I can't ride with both hands off even for a second on 50-60kmph. But when I took the bike to 125+ on NH-1 to try and extract the maximum, it started shaking badly on past 125 and I had to slow down after 131(on speedo) due to the shaking + traffic.

**Abhii46** · 09-07-2011, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Yes, the vibes DO increase with temperature, but just with the atmospheric temperature of same season (I mean, the moring and noon thingie) shouldn't have such noticeable effect. Vibes do increase when the engine becomes hot on long or revvy rides, but I haven't experienced the morning and noon thingie till now.

P.S. Even I my bike has the alignment/fork problem (don't know what exactly is the culprit). But, unlike yours and Shivi's case, my bike don't wobble usually. It just keep going to one side if I try to leave hands while riding and the deviation is to that extent that I can't ride with both hands off even for a second on 50-60kmph. But when I took the bike to 125+ on NH-1 to try and extract the maximum, it started shaking badly on past 125 and I had to slow down after 131(on speedo) due to the shaking + traffic.

It could be a fork problem, may be a slight bend but not sure. I once had an accident. When gave my bike to the SVC, mechanic showed the bend and said that's the reason bike is not going straight. He corrected the bend and after that it was smooth. But I'm still not sure whether it was actually because of the bend.

**Abhii46** · 09-07-2011, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

how much mileage you guys are getting??? under mixed conditions???????
i am getting abysmal 34-37 kmpl under mixed conditions and it sucks! i have tried all the methods in book in order to increase the mileage the best i have got is 40 kmpl when ridden in the splendor mode 45-50 kmh.please help me out guys i am sick and tired of this pathetic mileage!!!!!!!!

also when the engine is cold the vibes are almost nil(during mornings) and during afternoons it vibrates like hell (35km/h and above)

Could be some problem with tuning. Show it to a good mechanic. I used to get a mileage of 40-42. When the bike was comparitively new, used to get a minimum mileage of 42 with sometimes rising upto 44. Now with FFE and big bore I get around 45. Last week I had gone on a trip. During the first reserve in the trip, bike went upto 120 kilometers.
A slight issue with tuning, mileage drops a lot.

**Garry_Menace** · 09-07-2011, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post

Could be some problem with tuning. Show it to a good mechanic. I used to get a mileage of 40-42. When the bike was comparitively new, used to get a minimum mileage of 42 with sometimes rising upto 44. Now with FFE and big bore I get around 45. Last week I had gone on a trip. During the first reserve in the trip, bike went upto 120 kilometers.
A slight issue with tuning, mileage drops a lot.

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**Abhii46** · 09-07-2011, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

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Yup. Now its a RTR 190.

**A4D** · 09-07-2011, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@ drifty- i have lubed the chain and the tyre pressure is correct- i cant live with this mileage

@shivank and garry!!!!- even i facing the same FU****ing problem i cant stand it the bike wobbles at 56-57 kmh when i take my hands off!

what bout this??-also when the engine is cold the vibes are almost nil(during mornings) and during afternoons it vibrates like hell (35also when the engine is cold the vibes are almost nil(during mornings) and during afternoons it vibrates like hell (35km/h and above) km/h and above)

48kms is what i get when i ride sane and i switch off my bike on every signal i meet plus if i want average i stay in 4k rpm and speed 54kmsi rarely race bcos of the rains but i never usually have a racing start or hard braking and my brother gets 45 43 average so i guess it all depends on ur riding style and tuning

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 09-07-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

P.S. Even I my bike has the alignment/fork problem (don't know what exactly is the culprit). But, unlike yours and Shivi's case, my bike don't wobble usually. It just keep going to one side if I try to leave hands while riding and the deviation is to that extent that I can't ride with both hands off even for a second on 50-60kmph. But when I took the bike to 125+ on NH-1 to try and extract the maximum, it started shaking badly on past 125 and I had to slow down after 131(on speedo) due to the shaking + traffic.

The thing which you experienced is not a issue,it happens at high speeds when the front goes over uneven surface,even slight ones can cause it.What happens is,it causes the front fork inner tubes to flex.This happens if you don't put weight on the handle/front end.You have to catch the movement immediately by tightening the hold on the handle bar,otherwise the resonance builds and becomes a tank-slapper/head-shaker.This tank slapper will not go until you reduce the speeds.I have experienced it once.So even slight unevenness can cause it ,if there's less weight on the front-end ,or if it's not caught quickly by tightening the hold before it gets time to develop into a full on tank-slapper.

**Garry_Menace** · 09-07-2011, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

The thing which you experienced is not a issue,it happens at high speeds when the front goes over uneven surface,even slight ones can cause it.What happens is,it causes the front fork inner tubes to flex.This happens if you don't put weight on the handle/front end.You have to catch the movement immediately by tightening the hold on the handle bar,otherwise the resonance builds and becomes a tank-slapper/head-shaker.This tank slapper will not go until you reduce the speeds.I have experienced it once.So even slight unevenness can cause it ,if there's less weight on the front-end ,or if it's not caught quickly by tightening the hold before it gets time to develop into a full on tank-slapper.

But bro, I should be able to ride hands-off the handle at 60kmph na?

If I do so, my bike runs towards left so much that I can't even try taking my hands off the handle even for a complete SECOND.

Rest, I am very much happy with my bike. Performing well and there's no issue with the handling also **touchwood

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**gixxer_junkie_m** · 09-07-2011, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

But bro, I should be able to ride hands-off the handle at 60kmph na? If I do so, my bike runs towards left so much that I can't even try taking my hands off the handle even for a complete SECOND.

Rest, I am very much happy with my bike. Performing well and there's no issue with the handling also **touchwood

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That's a different thing compared to what you mentioned happened at 125

The handle veering to one side is either because of a cone-set issue,or wrong wheel alignment.

**Rtrlover83** · 09-07-2011, 04:40 PM

After i reach home, will upload a pic to support my last query. My mobile don't even have a VGA cam

LOL... No, my phone don't support Net either

I'am at my uncle's place now.

**muhammedsalimp** · 09-07-2011, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by sid137 View Post

hahaha i know onam dude!! after all i am a mallu too

Never knew that dude

So u coming home for Onam ?

Originally posted by sid137 View Post

AFAIK the saree guard comes from the factory itself!
most of the dealers give some complimentary stuff like seat covers, buzzer, helmet, palm grips atleast!!

The showroom guys talked like saree guard is something which they are giving off.
BTW I also got a seat cover and palm grip too..
I didn't like the seat cover though..may remove it after some time. I loved the seat of new Apache.
Palm grip has a very nice feeling. just love that..

Originally posted by gautam_k View Post

@ All ABS owners, do make it a habit to ride the bike WITHOUT the ABS every now and then. That is ride with the ABS switched off. Else it will be a very risky thing to switch to any non ABS bike.

Thanks for the tip.. BTW I also ride my CBZ-Xtreme whenever I go home..

Originally posted by prateekm View Post

Guys, I'm new to riding, so is there any tutorial on xBhp on 'tips' how to learn to ride a bike? I will surely go through the owners manual, but an extra tip or two won't hurt

+1

My odo reading is about 100kms. I'll not be using the bike for 4 days as I'm going home. any care need to be taken other than

Engine cut-off
Fuel-off
Center stand

**Abhii46** · 09-07-2011, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by muhammedsalimp View Post

My odo reading is about 100kms. I'll not be using the bike for 4 days as I'm going home. any care need to be taken other than

Engine cut-off
Fuel-off
Center stand

Nothing else. Just park your bike under shed. More than enough.

**Garry_Menace** · 09-07-2011, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

That's a different thing compared to what you mentioned happened at 125

The handle veering to one side is either because of a cone-set issue,or wrong wheel alignment.

Okay, I'll ask the SVC guys to check and rectify that whenever I will be going to to them next time. Are the gonna charge this thing other than the service charges? Just for my information, I asked.

Anyways, The service was due on August second week. I don't feel like going to SVC as I changed the oil to Shell Advanced 20w40 Mineral and obviously the oil filter too and it doesn't need to be serviced coz my bike runs so less that it sweeped only 6K kms. in 1.5 years including around 2000 kms. of touring

So, as it is running nicely, I don't want to go to the SVC for servicing and ruining the bike's feel again

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