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**pcgamer** · 09-05-2012, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

For rear disc you need to change the alloy if I am correct, which will force you to loose warranty

Thanks. Alloy means the rim? Change is due to the thick drum in the rim?
Anyway, any idea about the cost?

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

Of the two, Motul 5100 ester 4T is better.

1. Holds up really well at higher engine rev's. The AX7 ain't that bad either.
2. Engine does not heat up much.
3. Drain period/oil performance period is much longer than the AX7.
4. AX7 is a highly refined mineral oil (go through the engine oil thread) while the M5100 is an ester based semi-synthetic oil and hence the increased cost.

Ride Safe

Thanks for clearing that up. I'll get the AX7 this time as some people have said that the 5100 isn't available anymore. Also, I don't have to worry about counterfeits with Shell as it can be bought in Shell pumps directly.

**Rtrlover83** · 09-05-2012, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

Thanks for clearing that up. I'll get the AX7 this time as some people have said that the 5100 isn't available anymore. Also, I don't have to worry about counterfeits with Shell as it can be bought in Shell pumps directly.

It is that the Motul 5100 10W40 grade is not available. 15W50 grade is there and is of much demand.

Go ahead with the Advance AX7. You won't regret the purchase. Just remember to replace it every 2,000 kms if you want peak oil performance from the AX7.

Replace the oil filter too. Costs around 35 INR.

**shahbaz63** · 09-05-2012, 12:04 PM

I think we should add Poll here in this thread regarding Mileage...

Completed 6,000 km on My Beasty Apache "My Devilish Angel" ^_^

**prateek2210** · 09-05-2012, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

Thanks. Alloy means the rim? Change is due to the thick drum in the rim?
Anyway, any idea about the cost?

Oops yes I meant the rim... If you could notice the centre part of the rim is different for disc and drum. Cost.......svc might help in that

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

I think we should add Poll here in this thread regarding Mileage..

But why

If we would care of mileage there are plethora of options in 100/125cc segment. And if you just want to share that can be done without poll too

**krrishi** · 09-05-2012, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Oops yes I meant the rim... If you could notice the centre part of the rim is different for disc and drum. Cost.......svc might help in that

But why

If we would care of mileage there are plethora of options in 100/125cc segment. And if you just want to share that can be done without poll too

I agree, if mileage was a factor at the time of purchase, then the 180 would never have figured in the equation. having said that, mileage is an aspect that cannot be ignored also UNLESS, its way below the standard figure the 180 is known to return.Guess its a simple funda - Rip the bike< will be the mileage & vice versa. unless there is some issue with the bike itself this concept should hold true.

**shahbaz63** · 09-05-2012, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

But why

If we would care of mileage there are plethora of options in 100/125cc segment. And if you just want to share that can be done without poll too

Originally posted by krrishi View Post

I agree, if mileage was a factor at the time of purchase, then the 180 would never have figured in the equation. having said that, mileage is an aspect that cannot be ignored also UNLESS, its way below the standard figure the 180 is known to return.Guess its a simple funda - Rip the bike< will be the mileage & vice versa. unless there is some issue with the bike itself this concept should hold true.

errrrrrrrr lots of confusion !!! huh!

Though everybody say's mileage aint a factor but for most of the user's Mileage does matter a bit, but my main aim was to know whats the Average one should expect from her beast, I was satisfied with 30-35 figure to but it returns me 40+ sometime around 50 but when we have some serious issue in bike then it might be possible to get as low as 30 so there are few member including me who is getting more then sufficient average so the best we can share with rest of all to get whats best, everybody wants to use there bike as on it's best...

When someone ask about Mileage then its not always a money factor but factors like Mileage according to performance should justify itself.. I hope one will not go for 180 cc if its return 25/litre that too having top end of 130 but one surely will go for ZMA or ZMR looking at its Top End, engine Power & Performance... We can compare it with Latest Mobile everybody accept relatively low battery hours of Bigger screen cell phone with lot more features but no one will accept same battery hours in 3 inch screen.

**prateek2210** · 09-05-2012, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Though everybody say's mileage aint a factor but for most of the user's Mileage does matter a bit

Thats what we lack here, why so much stress on mileage than performance and reliability. If we think of mileage before getting any bike, sorry to say, but we will never jump to any higher cc performance bikes

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

but my main aim was to know whats the Average one should expect from her beast, I was satisfied with 30-35 figure to but it returns me 40+ sometime around 50 but when we have some serious issue in bike then it might be possible to get as low as 30 so there are few member including me who is getting more then sufficient average so the best we can share with rest of all to get whats best, everybody wants to use there bike as on it's best...

You yourself answered the query. You mentioned that your rtr mileage varies between 30-50kmpl, so would have been others, unless as you mentioned, something wrong with carb. Every riders knows how he ride, and that decides the mileage. I ride a little harsh so I can't expect 50kmpl from mine, same way if you ride in a sedate way, you can expect 50kmpl.

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

When someone ask about Mileage then its not always a money factor but factors like Mileage according to performance should justify itself.. I hope one will not go for 180 cc if its return 25/litre that too having top end of 130 but one surely will go for ZMA or ZMR looking at its Top End, engine Power & Performance... We can compare it with Latest Mobile everybody accept relatively low battery hours of Bigger screen cell phone with lot more features but no one will accept same battery hours in 3 inch screen.

Thats what I said, if one is getting a 180cc bike which is meant for performance one should not worry about mileage, and if he does, he made a wrong decision of getting it. BTW lets not compare it with any other brand

P.S : I upgraded from a mileage giving 125cc, and honestly from the day I bought my RTR i have not checked its mileage, all I know it gives 35-40kmpl(tank full method) and that enough for me. I already knew I can not expect 70kmpl like my old bike, so why bother!!

**shahbaz63** · 09-05-2012, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Thats what we lack here, why so much stress on mileage than performance and reliability. If we think of mileage before getting any bike, sorry to say, but we will never jump to any higher cc performance bikes

Yeah looks true on paper but no one will buy a Apache with 20 average better go with CBR & R15 then

You yourself answered the query. You mentioned that your rtr mileage varies between 30-50kmpl, so would have been others, unless as you mentioned, something wrong with carb. Every riders knows how he ride, and that decides the mileage. I ride a little harsh so I can't expect 50kmpl from mine, same way if you ride in a sedate way, you can expect 50kmpl.

Thats what I said, if one is getting a 180cc bike which is meant for performance one should not worry about mileage, and if he does, he made a wrong decision of getting it. BTW lets not compare it with any other brand

P.S : I upgraded from a mileage giving 125cc, and honestly from the day I bought my RTR i have not checked its mileage, all I know it gives 35-40kmpl(tank full method) and that enough for me. I already knew I can not expect 70kmpl like my old bike, so why bother!!

Mileage is another factor Like power & torque of any bike surely mileage is no concern for me either & not for most of the user but its a factor like Engine Power & Torque when you talk about "X" bike its important factor for sure...

As Said no one will buy Apache having Mileage of 20-25 but ZMA or ZMR or to say CBR 250... if RTR or anyother 180cc Consuming Petrol like 250 cc Bike then its Surely some mistake by Bike Manufacturer or company unless or untill there are other significiant like performance, top end & mid end toruqe also the bike's Chasis....

Anyways Mileage Poll was raised just for a Friendly concern about RTR, for others to get Idea about Mileage of Apache...

Waise OT: Prateek - Don't you will love if your RTR gives same 50 mileage as mine ? or may be better then that??

**prateek2210** · 09-05-2012, 02:12 PM

Yeah looks true on paper but no one will buy a Apache with 20 average better go with CBR & R15 then

Go through there thread, you will come to know what mileage they are getting. And its more than 20

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Mileage is another factor Like power & torque of any bike surely mileage is no concern for me either & not for most of the user but its a factor like Engine Power & Torque when you talk about "X" bike its important factor for sure...

Ever heard "serious" sbk owners discussing mileage of there litre class, they have the power & torque factor. So it is a factor for smaller ccs that too with a large segment of users and that needs to change,honestly or else our country will stuck in time and people will have to ride a 150/160/180/200/225 cc for all the years to come.

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

As Said no one will buy Apache having Mileage of 20-25 but ZMA or ZMR or to say CBR 250... if RTR or anyother 180cc Consuming Petrol like 250 cc Bike then its Surely some mistake by Bike Manufacturer or company unless or untill there are other significiant like performance, top end & mid end toruqe also the bike's Chasis....

Again comparison??? BTW these two bikes give more than 25kmpl. I haven't seen any RTR giving 25kmpl unless the rider has done some stupid modification or his engine is screwed up.

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Anyways Mileage Poll was raised just for a Friendly concern about RTR, for others to get Idea about Mileage of Apache...

You already answered that 30-50kmpl, and depends on riding style

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Waise OT: Prateek - Don't you will love if your RTR gives same 50 mileage as mine ? or may be better then that??

No way, I am happy what I am getting, I already made up my mind while buying that 30is the least that I can expect then why to have expectations

and mileage of my bike is not the factor for my love towards my RTR

**shahbaz63** · 09-05-2012, 02:17 PM

End of Mileage Fuss

itna kuch bola but u didnt saw My 6k Completed post

And Writing a Review too about My experience ....Saw there is no Detail experience posted yet :/will complete it by tonight if possible

**krrishi** · 09-05-2012, 02:18 PM

35-40 km/l(max) is the "ideal" mileage one can expect if the RTR is ridden in "rip" mode, my friend had the 1st gen 160,the bike was used extensively for touring&commuting in "rip" mode, end number of tuning, carb cleaning, chain lubing, offerings given at various temples in mumbai failed to increase the mileage of the bike which was stuck at 37,but he was least bothered as he was in love with its performance.
Shaby, i seriously envy you man, because of the mileage you are getting,50 km/l is a superb figure.i get a decent return which is in between the 40-44 range with sedate riding.

**prateek2210** · 09-05-2012, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

End of Mileage Fuss

itna kuch bola but u didnt saw My 6k Completed post

Party

I am nearing 30k now. Time to say goodbye to RTR is approaching

**shahbaz63** · 09-05-2012, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by krrishi View Post

35-40 km/l(max) is the "ideal" mileage one can expect if the RTR is ridden in "rip" mode, my friend had the 1st gen 160,the bike was used extensively for touring&commuting in "rip" mode, end number of tuning, carb cleaning, chain lubing, offerings given at various temples in mumbai failed to increase the mileage of the bike which was stuck at 37,but he was least bothered as he was in love with its performance.
Shaby, i seriously envy you man, because of the mileage you are getting,50 km/l is a superb figure.i get a decent return which is in between the 40-44 range with sedate riding.

After Changing to Motul, in rash ripping I am gettting around 40-45

Hope Sane riding will give me around 47

**shahbaz63** · 09-05-2012, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Party

I am nearing 30k now. Time to say goodbye to RTR is approaching

30K this is it

Well don't you be using it till 1,0000km ?

**krrishi** · 09-05-2012, 02:25 PM

sincere apologies for the back to back posts, looking at the way the petrol prices are in a hurry to give competiton to Sachin"s 100 centuries mileage could definetly play an important role in the near future.
OT : if the UPA govt decides to NOT increase the price of diesel then 1 precious litre of petrol will cost 80bucks & if diesel prices are hiked then a litre of petrol will cost 78 approx.all of this from friday onwards

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