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**white.warrior** · 12-08-2011, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by nisnth View Post

Okay.. finally shifted to Fully Synthetic Motul 7100 10w40 from the Castrol SS I was using... Man! Should I say anything???? The bike flies now

Revs so freely. It is as if someone was holding it back until now, and then released it from his clutches

The 5-6K rpm vibey is almost non-existent. Did a short 15 km ride. I will be going on a 600km round trip to Coorg this weekend, will post up my review on Monday

Nice

how many kms ur bike has done? I too thinking of changing to fully synthetic. the ODO reads 7500kms as of now.. currently on Shell SS 10W40
After how many kms can i change to fully synthetic?

**vineshp** · 12-08-2011, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

@Vinesh:Check out the brake pad wear indicator...
Completely worn out pad on the left side.
Pic courtesy:RanjithM

Thanks as always to you, Drifty!

Originally posted by mpasanthosh View Post

@drifty,vineshp,sid137 : Thanks for your help, the problem was with the faulty choke cable making the mixture rich..

Fixed it after all..thanks a lot..

Happy that your bike is fixed.. Happy RTRing..!

Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post

Changed the engine oil to Veedol Swift 10w40 SS and now the engine begs to rev more.

What's the price of this oil, Krish?

Now I have done ~2100Kms on ODO and my ride is due for 2nd service. Can I switch to a SS oil now or stick with Mineral oil?

**nisnth** · 12-08-2011, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by white.warrior View Post

Nice

how many kms ur bike has done? I too thinking of changing to fully synthetic. the ODO reads 7500kms as of now.. currently on Shell SS 10W40
After how many kms can i change to fully synthetic?

I have 15K on my odo! Guys here suggested to make a change to FS only after around 10-12K kms... i'm not sure why, never asked too

Experts answers please? Drifty, Lijok, Garry ?

**Krish1417** · 12-08-2011, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by vineshp View Post

Thanks as always to you, Drifty!

Happy that your bike is fixed.. Happy RTRing..!

What's the price of this oil, Krish?

Now I have done ~2100Kms on ODO and my ride is due for 2nd service. Can I switch to a SS oil now or stick with Mineral oil?

The price is Rs.300 and for now you should stick with mineral oil as the engine is new,Elf Gold and Shell are good mineral oils.Switch to SS during the 3rd service

**Drifty** · 12-08-2011, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by nisnth View Post

I have 15K on my odo! Guys here suggested to make a change to FS only after around 10-12K kms... i'm not sure why, never asked too

Experts answers please? Drifty, Lijok, Garry ?

I am not an expert here.Just getting to learn a lot from each one's experience here thats it.

Fully synthetic oils/Semi synthetic oils is recommended after your engine has opened fully when the components mate properly and set in,which is usually after 5-6k kms.SS oils are a blend of Mineral+Synthetic oils.FS oils will last longer, offer better protection, hold up in extreme temperatures, and provide longer oil change intervals.Every oil has a certain duration till which it maintains it's lubricating,cleaning and cooling properties. As time goes by the oil starts to thin due to the heat generated by the engine and it's additives get polluted. Hence your bike starts to feel rough and you need to go for an oil change.Fully synthetic oil can maintain these 'good' properties for a longer period of time.

Originally posted by vineshp View Post

Now I have done ~2100Kms on ODO and my ride is due for 2nd service. Can I switch to a SS oil now or stick with Mineral oil?

NO.You should wait for atleast 5-6k kms and then switch to any good SS/FS oil.

Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post

The price is Rs.300 and for now you should stick with mineral oil as the engine is new,Elf Gold and Shell are good mineral oils.Switch to SS during the 3rd service

+1 for that.

**white.warrior** · 12-08-2011, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

I am not an expert here.Just getting to learn a lot from each one's experience here thats it.

Fully synthetic oils/Semi synthetic oils is recommended after your engine has opened fully when the components mate properly and set in,which is usually after 5-6k kms.SS oils are a blend of Mineral+Synthetic oils.FS oils will last longer, offer better protection, hold up in extreme temperatures, and provide longer oil change intervals.Every oil has a certain duration till which it maintains it's lubricating,cleaning and cooling properties. As time goes by the oil starts to thin due to the heat generated by the engine and it's additives get polluted. Hence your bike starts to feel rough and you need to go for an oil change.Fully synthetic oil can maintain these 'good' properties for a longer period of time.

Cool.. Thanks @Drifty

Will change to FS now.. my eyes are on Shell 10W40

As its difficult to find Motul here in Goa. My hunt is still on.

**Garry_Menace** · 12-08-2011, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by nisnth View Post

I have 15K on my odo! Guys here suggested to make a change to FS only after around 10-12K kms... i'm not sure why, never asked too

Experts answers please? Drifty, Lijok, Garry ?

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

I am not an expert here.Just getting to learn a lot from each one's experience here thats it.
Fully synthetic oils/Semi synthetic oils is recommended after your engine has opened fully when the components mate properly and set in,which is usually after 5-6k kms.SS oils are a blend of Mineral+Synthetic oils.FS oils will last longer, offer better protection, hold up in extreme temperatures, and provide longer oil change intervals.Every oil has a certain duration till which it maintains it's lubricating,cleaning and cooling properties. As time goes by the oil starts to thin due to the heat generated by the engine and it's additives get polluted. Hence your bike starts to feel rough and you need to go for an oil change.Fully synthetic oil can maintain these 'good' properties for a longer period of time.

First of all, +1 to the bold part.

Drifty, I surely second to everything you said and yes thats obviously correct too as it is coming from you

But I think, what he asked was why do we have to wait for 10-12K kms. before switching to FS oils, not the advantages of FS/SS oils

. Isn't it Nishanth? Anyways, if I am right then here is the answer.
As Drifty already mentioned, SS and FS oils stick to the walls better, providing better lubrication to the mating parts and hence less wear and tear. Now if we start using FS oils right from the beginning, the engine parts won't get scratched up/mate correctly. Thats what we call in local language "piston rawa nahi hoga theek se". Thats why we use mineral oils initially so as to let the moving parts' walls can chip-out the metal better. Also, the other reason you can guess yourself is that initially there's lot of chipped metal in the oil inside the circulating engine oil. So, we need to change the engine oil more frequently to get rid of them. Hence, using the oils with lesser drainage period.

**vineshp** · 12-08-2011, 07:26 PM

But Garry, the TVS Tru4 oil used by SVC's in free services is mentioned as semi synthetic. Then how will our RTR engine's parts mate properly??

**Garry_Menace** · 12-08-2011, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by vineshp View Post

But Garry, the TVS Tru4 oil used by SVC's in free services is mentioned as semi synthetic. Then how will our RTR engine's parts mate properly??

Thats the biggest thing where they throw plain shit! The oil mentioned everywhere(like our manuals) is TRU4, not TRU4 Premium. TRU4 is a 20w40 Mineral Oil and TRU4 Premiun is 10w30 SS oil. This is what the SVC guys never understand and still say that the recommended grade for RTR is 10w30 "bhaiya kyunki TVS ka tel dus-tees (10-30) mein aata hai".

I've banged my head so hard to make them understand this thing, but all waste.

**nisnth** · 12-08-2011, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

But I think, what he asked was why do we have to wait for 10-12K kms. before switching to FS oils, not the advantages of FS/SS oils

. Isn't it Nishanth?

Bingo! Thanks for that... Now I'm Intel Inside

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

SS oils are a blend of Mineral+Synthetic oils.

Dint know that Either

, Thanks

**dj18deepak** · 12-08-2011, 10:16 PM

Guys my ride has covered 2000 kms as of now. The 2nd service is due in a few days. Is it better to stick on to the TVS tru4 oil or shall i try semi synthetic oil? Which one would be the best choice?

**nisnth** · 12-08-2011, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by dj18deepak View Post

Guys my ride has covered 2000 kms as of now. The 2nd service is due in a few days. Is it better to stick on to the TVS tru4 oil or shall i try semi synthetic oil? Which one would be the best choice?

The answer is already here...

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**Krish1417** · 12-09-2011, 12:12 AM

Guys,just went out for a short ride and came back.I was doing around 90km/hr and the top speed recorded showed 160km/hr.I resetted the top speed recorder and now its back to 0

Previous best was 118.What might have happened?

**vineshp** · 12-09-2011, 12:40 AM

shameless RTR fanboy!

P.S: I an an Apache fanboy. (not to offend any other brand/bike-just to share with Apache tribe and keep us proud of our ride)

Read the awesome KTM 200 review by xBhp. Here are some lines from that review, which-incidentally-applies very much to our ride-Apache 180

On a serious note I feel that the bike can be an amazing tourer, its light and fast and so much fun around corners. PLUS the ground clearance is a massive 165mm, 15m more than the Karizma! Getting Lehd on this would never be the same.

(Apache has 180mm Ground clearance)

I will be what you want me to be.

URBAN WARRIORTRACK JUNKIE

TOURER

STUNTER

Track Junkie: remember reading this from the manual?
"Born from Race Track-If any component didn't deliver
quicker lap times on our race track, it wasn't considered"

Tourer: check Abhii46/Garry and other's travelogues

Stunter: with 124PS/ton ~ low-end torque ~ awesome brakes, wheelie/stoppie @speed of
thought!

P.S: we get all this at 1/2 of price of KTM

courtesy of all photos: xBhp and TVS site

**sherahrk** · 12-09-2011, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post

Guys,just went out for a short ride and came back.I was doing around 90km/hr and the top speed recorded showed 160km/hr.I resetted the top speed recorder and now its back to 0

Previous best was 118.What might have happened?

ahhh... that happens once in a while... my meter too had the same problem.. showed 160 for two times..

its sad when we reach a top most high speed and when we check it after reaching home it will be showing 160

and you can get it replaced in warranty.!!

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