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  • #9121
    Originally posted by Drifty View Post
    Its the 'gear shift shaft' they had replaced,a thin rod attached with a spring tensioner on it.But strange this thing requires 'running -in' as stated by the service engineer you said.Please mention what all problems you faced earlier before replacing the part.And is it a whistling kinda noise?Check again and confirm if its from gearbox or the engine side!
    Btw,what's the cost of the shift shaft and part number ?.
    The repair work was done under warranty, but i guess i saw something like 2800 INR being written somewhere, this happened a couple of months back i i didnt even take the bill so dont have the part number.

    The part change was done because my bike was not going beyong 8.5k rpm, it was touching 8.5k rpm then a hiccup comes in and the rpm drops to about 7k something then again slowly increases to 8.5k rpm and hiccup and same story.

    Actually it is difficult to understand where this sound is coming from, because its coming only in the fourth gear, i can assure you that its not chain/sprocket and i'm even sure its not coming when i hold/press the clutch.
    Apache 180

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    • #9122
      Hey Guys,Just did a 4.1 sec 0-60 run today.Bike's running perfect.I have a question about the TPS.I Know the TCI unit but I don't know about the TPS.Does the TPS make any difference whatsoever?.If any of you guys have a photo of it i would be thankful.I want to try and disconnect mine just for experimentation and observation.

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      • #9123
        Originally posted by Viscmad View Post
        Warm up your bike, drive for 10 to 15 min, after that rotate the rpm screw clockwise to increase the rpm to 2.5k den open the throttle up to 4k and keep it there for a while.
        Now when thats done turn the Air/Fuel screw to 1 and half anti-clockwise from full closed position.
        Once again open up the throttle for a while and take it upto 5-6k rpm and turn the rpm screw anti-clockwise to decrease the rpm and set it to 1.4k


        And now the idling should be stable and the throttle should be crispy. But the most imp thing is that when you close the throttle the rpm should some down quick.
        now i'm confuse someone above mention that 3 to 3 half and u said 1 1/2 but the factory setting is 2.25 i've checked when i bought the bike, today i tuned it to factory setting but the result is speed decrease for a second then comes to normal what u call hiccup? maybe choke is the culprit, engine stall when i engage the choke.

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        • #9124
          Originally posted by nick1979 View Post
          now i'm confuse someone above mention that 3 to 3 half and u said 1 1/2 but the factory setting is 2.25 i've checked when i bought the bike, today i tuned it to factory setting but the result is speed decrease for a second then comes to normal what u call hiccup? maybe choke is the culprit, engine stall when i engage the choke.


          try searching on the net for carb tuning articles

          Hope this helps.

          As far as i know Engine stall using choke usually means engine flooding.i.e Too much fuel and too little air in the combustion chamber for fuel to burn. Your engine i recon is getting too rich a mixture.


          If you want pros to handle it then go to SVC. If you are from Kathmandu Nepal,Go to AIT TVS Service station(Tripureshwor) and ask for Rupesh Regmi and tell him to tune your carb and choke.He and Madan(don't know last name are the best there)
          Last edited by deception; 11-25-2011, 10:10 AM.

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          • #9125
            Originally posted by deception View Post
            try searching on the net for carb tuning articles

            Hope this helps.

            As far as i know Engine stall using choke usually means engine flooding.i.e Too much fuel and too little air in the combustion chamber for fuel to burn. Your engine i recon is getting too rich a mixture.


            If you want pros to handle it then go to SVC. If you are from Kathmandu Nepal,Go to AIT TVS Service station(Tripureshwor) and ask for Rupesh Regmi and tell him to tune your carb and choke.He and Madan(don't know last name are the best there)
            Thanks mate...

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            • #9126
              Originally posted by nick1979 View Post
              Thanks mate...


              Dude what's your mileage and lot number?

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              • #9127
                My roommate has Apache 180 , and recently got the oil change to Motul 3100 15W50 (Semi synth), now the mechanic says the clutch plate is gone.
                Not ridden too my of apache, so i do not have much idea about the bike.

                Need expert advice on the grade of oil they are using in the bike and why 15 W50 is bad for the bike.
                RIP Marco

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                • #9128
                  Originally posted by vineshp View Post
                  Could this be coming from worn chain/sprocket? Check these buddy..
                  Originally posted by saipranav View Post
                  no dude, its definitely not the chain/sprocket, they are pretty new and they have a different sound, i'm pretty sure the sound if from the gear box related issue
                  Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                  Ok,so what is the clearance at the inlet now?Valve clearance plays major role in the initial pickup/top end and smoothness of the bike.I had myself set it many many number of times and now happy with 0.07mm gap at both inlet and exhaust valves.

                  Its the 'gear shift shaft' they had replaced,a thin rod attached with a spring tensioner on it.But strange this thing requires 'running -in' as stated by the service engineer you said.Please mention what all problems you faced earlier before replacing the part.And is it a whistling kinda noise?Check again and confirm if its from gearbox or the engine side!
                  Btw,what's the cost of the shift shaft and part number ?.
                  @Drifty and vineshp

                  Guys, slight change in what i said earlier...
                  The sound is coming even when i press the clutch, its very feeble and not audible in high traffic... i have ridden it in deserted places and was able to hear the sound when the clutch is pressed in the 4th gear but i'm 100% sure that the sound is not coming in the other gears.

                  So, can anyone tell me what my problem is?
                  It it clutch plates?... a friend was saying that clutch plates would cost 2-3k... i thought it was 700-800...
                  Apache 180

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                  • #9129
                    Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post
                    My roommate has Apache 180 , and recently got the oil change to Motul 3100 15W50 (Semi synth), now the mechanic says the clutch plate is gone.
                    Not ridden too my of apache, so i do not have much idea about the bike.

                    Need expert advice on the grade of oil they are using in the bike and why 15 W50 is bad for the bike.
                    15w50 is a thicker oil,it will make your acceleration low,your top speed will decrease.Better revert back to 20w40 for good!
                    Speak Less,Speak Wise!

                    Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity.

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                    • #9130
                      Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post
                      My roommate has Apache 180 , and recently got the oil change to Motul 3100 15W50 (Semi synth), now the mechanic says the clutch plate is gone.
                      Not ridden too my of apache, so i do not have much idea about the bike.

                      Need expert advice on the grade of oil they are using in the bike and why 15 W50 is bad for the bike.
                      Check my review about the Motul 15W50 oil here...
                      TVS Apache RTR 180 - Page 877 - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community


                      Originally posted by saipranav View Post
                      @Drifty and vineshp

                      Guys, slight change in what i said earlier...
                      The sound is coming even when i press the clutch, its very feeble and not audible in high traffic... i have ridden it in deserted places and was able to hear the sound when the clutch is pressed in the 4th gear but i'm 100% sure that the sound is not coming in the other gears.

                      So, can anyone tell me what my problem is?
                      It it clutch plates?... a friend was saying that clutch plates would cost 2-3k... i thought it was 700-800...
                      Cannot guess anything just from the sound,better way get the clutch plates inspected from the SVC itself and let us know.

                      D.I.Y-Valve clearance setting RTR180
                      D.I.Y-RTR180 brake fluid replacing/brake bleeding
                      D.I.Y-RTR180 brake pad replacing/cleaning
                      Exploded view of Mikuni BS-29 carb

                      A motorcycle functions entirely in accordance with the laws of reason, and a study of the art of motorcycle maintenance is really a miniature study of the art of rationality itself.

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                      • #9131
                        Originally posted by deception View Post
                        Hey Guys,Just did a 4.1 sec 0-60 run today.Bike's running perfect.I have a question about the TPS.I Know the TCI unit but I don't know about the TPS.Does the TPS make any difference whatsoever?.If any of you guys have a photo of it i would be thankful.I want to try and disconnect mine just for experimentation and observation.
                        tps is throttle positioning sensor which is red box, it's under the fuel tank ...

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                        • #9132
                          Originally posted by deception View Post
                          Dude what's your mileage and lot number?
                          47 lot and haven't check the mileage yet i was planning to check the mileage after all the problem is settled, u know buddy my bike had problems after problems since i rollout this bike from showroom, 1st scratching noise from clutch box, after first servicing tak tak sound after throttle are release, at 750 kms on odo digital sensor gone kaput which replace under warranty, than some hiccups at lower rpm, now my needle stuck at 2000 rpm then it slowly comes down and it vibs a lot, my riding is sane i don't do stunt never stress the engine, still i have these problems,,,

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                          • #9133
                            Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                            Check my review about the Motul 15W50 oil here...
                            TVS Apache RTR 180 - Page 877 - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community



                            Cannot guess anything just from the sound,better way get the clutch plates inspected from the SVC itself and let us know.
                            I don't want to go to the svc this time bro.
                            Is it ok if i go to a mechanic who is reliable?
                            Is Motul 3000 mineral a good oil, which one do you think is the ebst, i'm ready to use FS/SS/MO.
                            Apache 180

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                            • #9134
                              Originally posted by nick1979 View Post
                              tps is throttle positioning sensor which is red box, it's under the fuel tank ...
                              thanks man

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                              • #9135
                                Originally posted by nick1979 View Post
                                47 lot and haven't check the mileage yet i was planning to check the mileage after all the problem is settled, u know buddy my bike had problems after problems since i rollout this bike from showroom, 1st scratching noise from clutch box, after first servicing tak tak sound after throttle are release, at 750 kms on odo digital sensor gone kaput which replace under warranty, than some hiccups at lower rpm, now my needle stuck at 2000 rpm then it slowly comes down and it vibs a lot, my riding is sane i don't do stunt never stress the engine, still i have these problems,,,
                                Mine is 39 lot, 38 Kmpl max.But i have to say,i haven't had a single problem with the bike,except the cam timing chain noise.And for reasons unknown The SVC guys Changed my Cone bearing and rear right shock absorber in my 6th servicing.no problems at all till now.And i rev hard and pop wheelies all time.The only thing that needs replacing is the rear tire.

                                Feel sorry for you man,Sometimes people are just unlucky,Maybe you just got a defective one.My advice would be go talk to Mr.Subedi(The SVC incharge)tell him about your problems.Just try to befriend him.


                                A point to note is that The SVC uses GULF 4t,oil which is 20w50.I recommend you stay clear of this.You are better off with castrol activ 4t
                                .At least that's what i do.


                                Did you buy from AIT TVS?
                                Last edited by deception; 11-25-2011, 08:40 PM.

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