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Please don't quote the whole of previous post. Edit the quote.
Please PM me, Sibun and Paul as we are here to share our views and knowledge. Lets discuss about this topic over PM, your turn first.

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flickering Speedometer needle

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Flickering needle always means a speedo cable that is soon about to break . Are you replacing the whole cable with the casing ? Do that . Use the correct OE cable part for glamour . Grease the inner cable before fitting . Route it correctly . What is the position of the break ?

10w40 is alright for the bike . If you want to continue with this grade , better to use full synthetic . Problem is 10w40 is quite wide range for a mineral base oil and degrades quickly . And the second problem is that a good synthetic 10w40 is very expensive .

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Your PM was full, so let me lay it out here: Italics are you guys' comments, and mine are in bold

And regarding engines developed by Honda then only developing doesn't make it bullet proof the manufacturing skills, parts quality and quality of assembly matters. And it is not secret that hero manufactures most items and also manufactures engines. So quality is effort of Hero and we must applaud them for that.

I did not know that Hero (hero honda) in the past had their own manufacturing. I believe most parts are manufactured by third parties (for eg. bore/piston by usha or SAL) etc..
I also believe developing and designing is VERY important, because design and development are important to give the specifications to a manufacturet to manufacture a particular part. with a poor design / mechanicals it doesnt matter if you have the best of manufacturing processes or tools/materials.
Until the recent past (even now) hero continues to use engines developed by honda and by development it means that it was honda that laid the foundation for design and manufacturing by giving out the specs/design etc to manufacturers to make the parts. It would be a lie to say that Hero did all the work related to manufacturing. I'd say it was done under the guidance of honda.

Regarding Heroism then i remember Overdrive road test of karizma in 2003 the title was "THE EMPEROR STRIKES BACK".

Again.. the Karizma uses an engine developed by honda to this day. the crf230. so the emperor was/is really honda :-)

And on top of that Hero has the best customer care and support.

Sorry.. but none of them have what you call best customer care/support.. not honda not hero not tvs not anyone in India. You are fleeced at almost every ASC unless you know someone in the ASC. There are very few ASC's (or i'd rather say people in an ASC) that will genuinely try to help you out.
If you remember your own words when you bought the Extreme.. you said you were quoted some additional money as 'handling charges' and it was later waived off after you complained to the head office. And here is another person complaining about Hero's service in our very own Hyderabad.

HH Karizma R . air lock problem. ( Please take time to read my thread) - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/27219-hh-karizma-r-air-lock-problem-please-take-time-read-my-thread.html#post988707

Wanna know whats wrong with your bike or or looking for the best mechanic in your town? Ask here!

I myself have faced problems at honda, and only on writing an email to them have certain things been fixed (like repairs under warranty, spares etc)
By default almost all asc's across all manufacturers try to rip you off. It is well known that not all aspects of a service (free or paid) are carried out during a service. But again some repairs were done very well without me having to write to them.. it comes down to the person you are dealing with at the ASC and not everyone is helpful.

Spares are available freely, service centers are almost everywhere and warranty related issues are solved with full customer satisfaction.

Yes, I agree Hero spares are more easily available like the Bajaj spares, but again I have explained above regarding the warranty and service related aspects. Most of the times you have to run behind them, complain, shout etc etc,, to get your work done (which should 'ideally' be done without much fuss) - Sorry just doesnt happen in India.

Paul was not bashing Honda but just expressing how an uninformed consumer decides between different products and what influences their decision.

I am not defending honda.. tbh i love bikes (not the manufacturers) and the bikes i ve owned are from various manufacturers: (rx100, kinetic honda, cbz classic, pulsar, dio) and I am lucky that i ve been able to own some of these iconic bikes in the indian market. And I try not to be partial while rating manufacturers.
I also understand Paul's view so I did not want to discuss this further.. maybe we can have a debate over a beer and some biryani sometime

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i'd say the 10w40 or 20w40 from shell is a very good oil. you shouldn't have any problem using it. And it is not 'thin'.. it is one grade higher than the currently recommended 10w30 by hero. the splendor will be just fine on the AX5 or AX7 .. anything more(synthetics) would be a waste of money. Just remember to change your oil every 2000km.

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1. Change the speedometer cable(complete inner and outer), and also the pinion set in the drum. Do this as a complete set and your cable will last long. Before fitting the cable wire the meter inner should be greased properly and fitted. Usually speedometer is not the culprit but change the drum pinion and cable set completely and if problem is there then i will guide what to do.

2. I knew that once they open the bore bike will consume oil. The right method of opening and old engine for doing work other than new bore nad rings is to pull out the piston such that the gudgeon pin comes out of bore with the rings still in bore. Then remove the gudgeon pin and take out the bore with piston still stuck inside. Take care not to make the rings come out of bore.

But they have not done that and bike is consuming oil.

So now get a new bore kit, new timing chain(OE as it is silent timing chain so good), timing pad,tensioner, valve oil seal, bore packing, head packing. Replace the bore and piston kit and also polish the valves. Bike will be ready for another 40k km. Do it at a good mechanic who is good in splendors.

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Pinaki ji and Sibun ji , I want to tell that two wires have broken , with first one , the speedo needle started flickering and after some kilometeres it broke. so I get installed a new one (it wasn't greased , mechs dont do it - thinking it a waste of time and labour) and even with this new wire the speedo needle was flickering right from the start . And it also broke after about 100 km. Both times it was changed completely i.e. inner and outer speedo cable. The point of break on both of the wires was about 2 - 3 inch from the speedometer end. thanks

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The problem is with your speedo drive pinion assy located in the front drum plate.. Its either damaged or dry. I had the same problem on one my rd recently.. I put on a wad of greese on the pinion assy and presto.. Problem solved.. Try it.. If it is damaged then change it.

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As i have said just change the pinion set in the front drum plate assembly along with meter inner as you had changed the whole cable set. Regarding meter just open it from its mounting, and put 2-3 drops of oil where the cable goes inside meter.

There is nothing that cannot be repaired.

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strange problem happening to my bike. engine getting off in neutral.engine is stalling and then stops.while in running no problem.And when bike is tilted towards left or trying to keep in side stand engine is getting off, friends what to do

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Increase the ideal tuning.

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@ Harish - did this start after you changed your oil ? what were you using previously ?

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Pinakiji it started after changing my plug to ngk cr7hsa, before that i was using mico bosch m4 . I tried changing the plug back to bosch. but the problem still prevails. And i changed the oil after the problem showed up. The previous oil i was using was veedol take off 4t and now changed to shell advanced ax7

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1) Visit a nearby hero service center who has rpm-meter and have you carb tuned . Over here they do that free for me . Sometimes a change in oil grade requires retuning the idle speed etc like paul suggested .
2) Check ignition current strength , plug cap resistance , ignition cable . i.e if the plug is getting enough current to produce reliable spark . If the ngk plug you got is genuine , it is the best one for the bike , no problems with it . I am strongly suspecting the spark-plug cap , you may need to replace it .
3) 3rd possibility is there is some water in your fuel tank or carb . Opening the carb bowl for cleaning shall indicate if that is the case .

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Sibun,
Again question regarding carb AFR setting. Recently I have purchased Mahindra Centuro. Since the engine and carb similar to splendor pro asking here.
I have covered 3k kms already. Company set AFR is quite lean.

My 90 % riding rpm range is between 4000 ~ 5500 rpm. While tuning where(rpm) should I aim for optimum mixture.