Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Shoeb - How can we clean a sealed 4-stroke silencer?
I have this question in mind for sometime.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Hey guys i bought a splendor recently since the fuel prices have gone up and it was uneconomical to run my rx135 for daily commute.This bike is a 98 model and it has been thrashed by its previous owner(i bought because i got it at low price),its engine needs to be sorted,so it would be great if you guys can help me with workshop manual.

Thanks.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Start with everything other than the engine . Welcome to the forum .

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friends i want to know whether the part i marked in red is oil filter . if it is oil filter , can i change or clean myself,,

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It has to be a self starter because I can see a wire going to it on the lower side. Oil filter housing is usually a part of the clutch cover.

There are different ways preferred by different people. You can pour some kerosene and let it soak for an hour, shake it well with all the openings closed, drain kerosene into a container, pressure wash it and then blow compressed air.
Cleaning should be done just before installing it and when the engine is ready to be fired-up. Pre 2010 silencers are easy to clean and will probably run fine even without cleaning, problem is with cat cons-they just tend to clog up and restrict the exhaust if the mixture is too rich/engine burning oil.

PS. Don't even try doing this on any bajaj exhaustec silencer, it will begin to rust in no time.

Start by posting a picture of it so that we can get idea.
On another note- From your profile I see that you started riding since 8th grade, we don't promote underage driving and I hope you have a valid driving licence, obey all the safety rules and wear a helmet.

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Its been a long time i haven't asked anything about my bike. Today i got some time to ask about something, just for a sake of knowledge.



Here you can see a drop of water falling below float chamber. I took this photo on 13th July in the morning at 6 AM after a rip driving for about 30 kms. Temperature was little bit cold that day but not too much. This was completely a new thing i have ever noticed in my entire life of bike driving. The water was all over the carb, on slider area, near about float chamber, on a air screw. This pissed me off confused how this water came? But as soon sun rays started coming, no signs of water found. This same thing i experienced few weeks before this event, on highway, same in between 5-6 am. But water evaporated after 7am.

Now my question is, what this water speaks about?

OT:
Huh guys don't know how would i write this....so far my feelings for my bike!!

Right now, don't know in what condition is lying in my garage. What i know is without oil change, no carb cleaning, no filter replacing, without any lubrication in chain, no wash, no wax, no care at all

From all those years my bike was suffering with loss of power and performance. From almost 1 year i was spending my time here in this thread, just with the courage to fix all my bike problems and to make it return to its original glory like it never before. My bad luck, when i overhauled i couldn't even enjoy its full performance. Sometimes i feel why did i overhauled!! I only droved for 2500 kms after overhaul and then i had to leave her to fall back in the same condition. I couldn't even make it to 1 lac km on odo, it was 96500 on the odo when i left her. And the worst thing is, i couldn't even celebrate her completion of "10 years" on Aug 23rd last month. Now i only left is with few pictures of her in my mobile. One i'm sharing with you right now taken on my last trip on highway.



I miss her sometime, i didn't left with much infos to share with you guys. But that doesn't mean i didn't following you. I do visit this forum regularly to read the post of you guys. I am going emotional right now, it was pleasure working with you guys that time. I do feel happy when i see you guys working with your bikes. And it remind me that day when i overhauled my bike. With all those back hands with grease & oil, the pressure, fear, excitement, energy level, it was the most challenging part for me but also it was the awesome time of my life and mostly the happiness which i got driving a newly made engine.

But 'mere life me jab koi khusi aati hai toh vo jayada din nahi rehti'. My brother is lucky.
Well its all about making a career which is more important.

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Are you away from home for studies ? Don't be sad , being at home , I haven't been able to wash the bike in the last few months of monsoon ... it's fully encrusted in mud . I know how it feels to be seperated from your bike for a few days even .

The rubber band kinda thingy that keeps the speedo & front-brake cables to the side of the front fender has somehow come off . I stuck it back but the rubber isn't staying put there and has again come off . What to do about it ?
Secondly I am sick of the mud thrown up by the front wheel into the engine and am going to fix a front fender mud flap extension , have already bought the one that comes on the bajaj pulsar 135 . Some drilling and shaping is necessary to fix that . Can manage . Shall post the diy .
Thirdly , because of monsoon washoff most of the roads here have just loose gravel left on them that is flying at the bike all the time from other car wheels , often strikes my visor too . Going to scratch up the fork tubes like this soon . So I am looking for a front fork rubber boot or gaiter whatever it's called ( like the cd100's ) - but I dunno which bike's unit shall fit yet .
Advices welcome .

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It is normal condensation just like it happens on a cold glass of water. When you were ripping the bike, fuel was used and float bowl became cold to an extent that it condensed the moisture present in air. It was morning so the condensed water did not evaporate.
Just my theory.

We all understand your feelings, please don't worry too much about the bike and focus on your carrier for now.
These bikes are not fragile and it can take a lot of abuse. I am sure she is waiting for you to return.

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I'm at Mumbai for job purpose, and i don't have any plans to go back for at least 1 year. and the good news is i got selected in one of the leading bpo for back operations.

yeah i think your theory is correct. this is what most porbably would happen.

these bikes are really have high quality. My elder bro here wants to buy non gear vehicle, and he mostly like Activa & Suzuki Access to buy. I told him to buy Hero Majesto but he is confused. He took me to honda showroom here, i didnt wanted to go, but by force took me and i saw the quality of bikes there, you that what i am trying to say. We also went to Hero and smile came to my face, i saw majesto and in all aspects power & torque, it is much better than that. I told him the difference in both in every aspects and convinced to buy majesto. but latter god knows what happened to him, he again interested in activa, just because its running from many years and most of the people here own that and some of their friends also suggested it. They clamied they have it running from few years without any problem. And he believe on them rather than me even after knowing that im expert in bikes.
I didnt told him anything then. I would let him buy whatever he wants, why would i argue. Afterall, he is not buying for me nor i'm interested in driving.
He is numb about vehicles and dont care about it. Even if he bought majesto and god knows if something went wrong in future by himself then i will be denounced.

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of late there seems to be a lot of brand bashing going around here and it more or less sounds like "hero is the best, the rest s*Ck"
paul, i don't see what you saw 'poor' quality/performance on the activa that makes you say the maestro is better ?
You guys seem to forget that the current/past crop of bikes from Hero actually use engines developed by Honda. I'd say we are yet to see some real 'hero-ism'

Having ridden a few bikes from both stables and seen/learnt from other owners' experiences, to me it comes down to the kind of maintenance these bikes are put thru, and sadly the ASC's around here aren't very helpful unless you know someone on the inside (doesn't matter if its honda hero yamaha tvs etc...)

Lets stop bashing and posing and discuss some bike related mechanicals !

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Oh! you got his message wrong. He was not bashing any brand or something, but he was saying that quality of HERO is at par with Honda but it is general perception of people that Honda gives the best quality and all others are lower quality, but his tone of speaking was slightly off mark.

Regarding brand bashing he was not bashing anybody but he was defending hero as he has attachment with that brand. I think defending one product is not a crime.

And regarding biking related mechanical then let me add what is this thread all about. See all the pages and you will see that it is bible of biking mechanicals.

And regarding engines developed by Honda then only developing doesn't make it bullet proof the manufacturing skills, parts quality and quality of assembly matters. And it is not secret that hero manufactures most items and also manufactures engines. So quality is effort of Hero and we must applaud them for that.

Usually daily we hear that people saying oh Honda is japanese, quality is best and all such. Most of them know nothing about bikes and say that. Almost everywhere i hear that, i just ignore that as i am happy with my bike and that whats matter. But you know every one is not same. So paul on always hearing that would actually be frustated rather, so he just spoke his frustration out.

So s1d nothing to take by heart. Just he was little frustrated so he spoke out.

Regarding Heroism then i remember Overdrive road test of karizma in 2003 the title was "THE EMPEROR STRIKES BACK".

With EBR HERO is making a lot of changes and i think it is not far when- THE EMPEROR STRIKES BACK.
[MENTION=6724]Paul[/MENTION]- i understand your sadness on leaving your bike but as they say Distance increases love.So get a good job make a life and the you take your bike with you and with the money saved just restore it to factory spec.
[MENTION=40696]Bi turbo[/MENTION]- Post some images and tell me the condition of bike and i will be able to help you.

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And on top of that Hero has the best customer care and support.
No matter how good a product is, it will not sell if the customer care and after sales is poor. Just look at FIAT India, Grande punto is a good hatch with a great multijet engine,handling looks,build quality,mileage ,performance but Swift sells like anything because it has everything a Punto has plus Maruti offers best in class after-sales and customer care.
Spares are available freely, service centers are almost everywhere and warranty related issues are solved with full customer satisfaction.

Most of us complain that hero only does stickering jobs on bikes with same engines. Honda also uses the same 110cc in its Activa, dio, avaitor,same 125cc in Shine and stunner,same 110 in twister,yuga and new, same 150cc in Unicorn, dazzler and trigger but nobody complains about that.

Paul was not bashing Honda but just expressing how an uninformed consumer decides between different products and what influences their decision.

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Did i anywhere mentioned the word 'poor' ??
did i said hero is best!!?
I didnt said poor quality or performance, all i was saying Majestro produce little bit more power and torque compared to Activa.
Activa
power- 8 bhp @ 7500 rpm
torque- 8.74 Nm @ 5000 rpm

Majestro
power- 8.2 bhp @ 7500 rpm
torque- 9.10 Nm @ 5500 rpm

now you see the difference and tell me?
My bro weighted 95 kg and which is good for him in city like Mumbai where there is huge traffic and extensive use of braking and accelerating is required. Activa is costing too much which is going out of his budget and being the displacement is same (109cc) then why not one would buy which cost less and outputs more power/torque. Apart from these Majestro have digital meter and combined braking system which is more safer for a owner in city like Mumbai, reason why because here car runs at 80-90 kph in inner city highway and i've seen personally here bikers drives very rough no matter how the roads are, even in congested roads too. So i believe, combined braking system is more safer for my brother.
Majestro has multi reflector which will give better light and visibility in nights in highway, which is again better & safer for my brother.
You must heard about monsoon of Mumbai, when it comes it rains continuously for 4 months 24x7. We dont have garage here and scooter will remain outside no matter how much it rains. Activa have metal body, where chances are most likely to get rusted, not in 1 year but may be after 4-5 or 6 years but one day surely will because any metal when comes in contact with water continuously for 24x7 for 4 months will absolutely form rust. and my bro doesn’t have much time to care about these things. He doesn’t have free time like us to care about and to prevent it. Majestro have fiber body so i wanted my bro to have that because i know my bro better than anyone else.

So considering all these points- budget,power,combined braking,dual reflector,digital meter,fiber body.... makes me say Majestro is better for 'him'.

I didn’t mentioned these points earlier because I thought its not worth posting it. If I knew already if someone is going to take as negative then I must have mentioned it.

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There are a lot of points that i disagree upon from the prev posts by sibun and shoeb but i do not want to start an OT coffee-toffee argument here

Now coming to Paul's reasons on why he chose the maestro :

I weigh 85kgs and have ridden a dio for the past 6.7 years ! Trust me, that minute difference in power/torque will not make any difference in ride-ability in real time.
If you are talking about the body type, there is nothing better than a metal body. Those fiber parts are not strong enough to last many years and are prone to breaking at the slightest impact/fall and not to mention the rattle/vibrations at times after a couple of years. my dio which has never fallen down does have broken panels, (especially the screw mountings tend to break off) and its held in place using clamps (the clamps that are used in cycle locks)
Bottom line, metal panels are any day better.. I say that because they are easier to repair(tinker) and rusting will not cause much damage (my experience using a kinetic honda for many years in chennai)
The activa too does have a Combi brake system ! Honda was the first to bring this out (I did not know that the maestro had combi brakes) and the lighting is same on both!!

The only 'advantage' is maybe the lower cost of the Maestro

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Started using shell advanced 10w40 in my splendor.I havent went for a long drive,Will this oil cause any problems in long run and long term use, due to its thin nature.Engine is feelig smooth and free revving after the oil change