Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Wire doesn't go wrong. When u checked spark you removed spark plug cap and checked directly. The spark must be strong, complete blue, and can be stretched upto 1/2 inch. if its weak will produce reddish color. Other symptoms can be cold start problem and problem after wash. If spark appears weak change the ignition coil.

++You can also inspect the ignition coil using multimeter and you need to google on that.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

so i am going to replace rear shocks of my glamour.which company shocks can fit and give smooth ride for glamour. i heard honda shine shocks are good.any suggestions guys

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

The company shocks are good enough. There's not much difference between Glamour & Shine ones. Go for stock.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

6 years completed....

Still rides like new ! Not even a single problem. Super reliable machine [emoji4][emoji4].

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Is there any role of Excitor Coil (found in upper section above Lighting Coils inside magnet) or Charging Coil (found outside magnet in right lower side) in creating good quality spark ?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Excitor feeds the CDI. CDI have capacitors which keeps holding the charge and release to ignition upon receiving the signal when TDC.
umm... i would say very very rare that changing excitor would help. I know most dont change the ignition its bit expensive but i have experienced that. Things have its lifespan and coil degrade over time.

Un-burnt Fuel, Poor Fuel Economy, Misfiring, Stalling, Jerking, Rough idling, Poor Power, Hard Starting are some of the symptoms.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

[QUOTE=dumb0;1372527]Is there any role of Excitor Coil (found in upper section above Lighting Coils inside magnet) or Charging Coil (found outside magnet in right lower side) in creating good quality spark ?[/QUOTE

[MENTION=53807]paul.1911[/MENTION]
please enlighten on the role of Charging Coil as well.
regards

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

[QUOTE=dumb0;1373084]We also call it a pickup coil or timing coil or pulser coil is responsible for providing the timing signal to CDI. This is the coil which tells its the right time to spark when the piston is at TDC.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Ignition Coil changed.
Plug Cap changed.
If the spark is still yellowish and sometimes there is no spark on cranking, what could be the reason ?

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Black smoke coming on accerating,

Valves polished, Stem Seals ₹74 changed, Oil Seals on Half Packing ₹50 changed alongwith Aluminium Packing.

After 30km drive, though pick up and compression have improved, the plug still shows fresh hard Carbon deposits.

What could be the reason ?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Accelerates freely, but no good spark on checking from 1 cm distance .

Does not start on 1st kick. Most of the time starts daily with choke.

Veedol 20 W 40 engine oil being used.

Should I change the Excitor Coil ?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

[QUOTE=paul.1911;1373258]How can it be checked for being correct/ OK ?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Other than a continuity check for the line and against shorting by checking with chassis I don't believe there's any other means.

Ideally if the Pulsar Coil's signal is getting shorted the motorcycle would start misfiring, usually when the revs start climbing above idle.

OT:
Is there any other open forum we can move this conversation to because xBhp is starting to suck balls when it comes to maintaining theirs, every time a post is edited it gets deleted without the OP's consent.

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Hello friends. We are living in an era of rebooting. Every successful movie franchise like Spiderman, superman, batman, etc. is being rebooted. I am writing this post as a reboot to this thread. This is a very special thread on xbhp. Hero Motocorp while still being the numero uno two wheeler manufacturer in the world in terms of volume is steadily losing interest the minds of youngsters in India. To a certain extent the online media is responsible for this. There are numerous auto-journo channels on youtube but nobody is interested in reviewing a commuter bike these days. Some channels are saying that Hero is focusing only in making plain commuters. I agree that Hero makes commuters but never has Hero made a ‘PLAIN’ commuter! I am a firm believer that whatever sells in India sells for a reason and not just by herd mentality. I am penning down my views on certain products and engines from HH/Hero that were/ were not a sales success but definitely special and had their own USP’s. FYI these words are coming from a once HH hater and the reasons for that is also specified long down in the post.


The CD100/CD100SS




The first innings of Honda with Hero began in 1985 with the CD100. It was an instant hit among the masses. That exhaust note is still a joy to the ears. A simple bike which is Super smooth, light weight, retro looks and extremely frugal. Easily gives 70-80kmpl. Still today when I ask my father “which is the best bike pappa ? ”, He replies only one thing “ son, the anything from HEROHONDA made before 2000, especially the CD100 is the best bike ! “


The original / majestic / pre-y2k splendor




The original splendor launched in 1994 was the golden goose for HH. It has an iconic and timeless design which resembles simplicity and ruggedness. It also had the simple Honda motor and a rumbling, engaging exhaust note which made it a very fun to ride machine. But the biggest change on the splendor was the frame. HH used a super-stiff double cradle frame instead of the backbone frame of the CD100. This double cradle frame is one of the reason for the success of splendor and models which followed. The bike feels super sturdy and agile. You can carry three persons and dive into a corner! Still the frame won’t flex. No other bike, I repeat NO OTHER BIKE in the same segment will feel as sturdy. In a recent survey conducted to find the reason for the dismal sales of Honda Dream series bikes, it was found that most customers rejected the bikes as they felt structurally WEAK and THIN ! Hero has since used the double cradle frame on all its 100cc bikes. And these bikes are a lot of fun in the corners, again something not associated with commuters.


The y2k splendor





The y2k or Euro one splendor was launched along with the Passion and Joy. Due to the onslaught of pollution norms Hero had to tinker with the simple Honda motor. But the tinkering was minimal. The major change was the addition of SAI-secondary air injection. This version of splendor looked the same as the pre-y2k and it had a lot of STREET PRESENCE. Still there is a huge demand for these splendors in Kerala. The resale value of these is still higher than my 2010 passion pro ! Somehow I feel that the splendor plus and pro which followed don’t have the same presence as the y2k/pre-y2k.


The PRO BS3 series ( 2008-2014 )




With the advent of the even stricter BS3 norms, hero decided to completely enhance the simple Honda motor. New bore, piston, valve system, more compression, new magneto, DC CDI, clutch, carburetor, shorter gearing, etc. The engine looked like the old engine from outside but its an almost new engine. Another major change was the addition of a cat-con. All these changes helped produce 8.04 NM of torque at just 4500 rpm. The exhaust note is bassy. The PRO thing about the engine = DECEPTIVE ACCELERATION. In the city, the short gear ratios and the torque available so early makes them deceptively fast. On the highway too, no need to down shift. Even in top gear, just ring the throttle and you can effortlessly overtake big trucks. Top end is strong, again something not associated with commuter bikes. 60-90 acceleration is pretty fast. The engine feels strong even at 95 kmph which is the top speed. Most commuter bikes from other manufacturers feel breathless post 70 kmph. The down side of all the fun = lower FE. The max you can Extract is 65 kmpl that too on strict economy riding. But the PRO series just doesn’t permit you to ride in economy speeds. The short gear ratios, thrust from the exhaust and ‘Revv me hard’ character of the engine wont let you ride slow and in no time you will be doing around 65-70 kmph which is the sweet spot of this engine.

The PRO BS4 series ( 2015-present day )




Haven’t ridden one yet. Seems like Hero has found a way to ditch the SAI system. The BS4 engines produce more power and torque ( at slightly higher RPM’s ), run on compression ratio of 9.9 : 1, gearing is slightly different I guess and they have en even more bassier exhaust note. Hero has introduced the I3S idle start stop system on most of its 100cc bikes but now it seems to be the end of the road for the legendary cub engine in India. As hero has introduced its own 110 cc engine and the company is trying hard to make its 110 cc engine as smooth and as good sounding as the 100 cc cub engine. Hence it is highly unlikely that Hero would update the 100 cc engine to comply with the upcoming BS6 pollution norms.


Honorable mentions

HH street



It is an irony that the worlds most famous bike, the legendary Honda Supercub, the very bike whose engine is used on the very successful CD100 and splendor, failed in India ! The HH street was nothing but a Honda Supercub C100EX . It seems that us Indian had a very different taste and didn’t give much recognition to this brilliant piece of machinery.

HH CD Dawn



This bike is the reason for me to be a HH hater initially. This is the bike on which I learnt riding. It was smooth but at the same time it was slow. Upto 60 kmph every thing was okay but there was no performance beyond that. It was the entry level economy bike and was seriously detuned by HH. Even though it weighed only 108 kg, it always felt considerably heavier than the splendor. My hate for this bike grew into utmost respect after many years. Once I went to my cousins house during the vacation. He also had the same model CD dawn as ours. We were going to take bath in the nearby river which is a few km away. There is a very steep incline to the main road from my cousin house. Normal cars find it hard to climb this incline and usually only 4 wheel drive jeeps climb easily ( a typical case in the hilly areas of Kerala ). Now the scene is like- me-50 kgs, my elder cousin- 75kg and my younger cousin who was a bit fat -90 kg. total – 215kgs! My elder cousin said us to hop on. I asked him whether it is a good idea to which he replied “ just see the power “. There we go, the CD Dawn with a total load of three people which is 215 kg climbed the super steep incline like it’s a walk in the park. I had just one word to describe it- INSANE ! This incident entirely changed my view about this bike. I even gave a nickname to it- TRACTOR. It likes pulling heavy loads. One thing I learned from this bike is-
THE STRENGHT OF THE HH DOUBLE CRADLE FRAME AND THE PULLING POWER OF THE 100CC CUB ENGINE IS SECOND TO NONE!

Recently got my passion pro after a bore -piston change. The ASC guys had screwed it but now it is running good. I thought of writing this post after i realised how 'imortant this little 100cc bike has become to me. And I can confidently say that the commuter bikes from Hero Motocorp sell in such huge numbers because they are not ' PLAIN ' commuters.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

It's still there. They use it on BS4 models as well.