Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

1. Paper element filter - replacing is more better than cleaning (in principle)
2. Stick to service manual for this.
3. If your current oil is easily available and not giving you troubles then why change? (unless personal preference)

Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

Check this guard will it be ok ?

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Ok does anyone knows to buy oil filter and air filter parts online - OEM - without going to the seller ?

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single point of attachment, this would mean that at impact, the guard would just twist around. like a pivot joint.

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Google it mate, there seem to be many. I would still advise to go to the shop, no specific reason, just that you get to see whatever's New Arrival, if any

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Dear Rohan & rugved,
pls help me mate.
I am experiencing some strange things with my idle rpm setting. I live in hyderabad, temperature variation is 33 to 17 deg C. In night around 8-9 Pm whenever i ride my bird (even after 7-8 kilometers, heated engine condition) engine idle rpm reduced to less than 800 & engine dies, so i used to increase idle rpm using idle screw. but in day time, my idle rpm rise to 1800-2000 rpm with same screw setting so again i have to reduce Idle setting. similarly loop continues, i am getting frustrated. Have any one of you experienced same? is it normal with carbs?.
I went to ASC for my first service, but these people are money minded fools they didnt attend my problem. i think this is the problem of carburetor. pls suggest me the solution. should i replace the carburetor with same or should i go for other performance carburetor? pls suggest me name of carburetor also.

Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

1. I stay in Hyderabad and i have not faced this behaviour with my TBTS bike so far (My activa does this but then its an old engine).
(unless your day and night usage is different, the engine should not behave this way)

2. How old is the bike in terms of days of ownership and Kms used. If the bike did not face similar issue earlier then I don't think there is a need for performance carburetor (unless of course it is your decision)

3. As far as ASCs are concerned I have heard a great deal about Secunderabad ASC.

But if you are not satisfied with their diagnosis you can look up 'Pavan' at 'The enfield zone', which is a garage near Raidurg 500008, Hyd. He has been given good reviews by many Enfield bike owners. Can call him up and describe the issue, if its a known issue he might be able to help you know the reason and fix for it. Depending upon the depth of the Fix (and you bike's warranty status) you may chose to go with the solution offered. (Details available online)

Also Check if there is any mist condensation in any part of the bike especially the electricals and unless the air quality around you is drastically different during day and night there may be some different issue.

Do keep us updated over this.

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First of all I liked the bar as it is stylish and secondly I don't wanted to get my leg stuck during crash and also it is not fugly looking . Considering all this point I ordered the item from Amazon it will be delivered shortly after I fit it I will post you the pictures
Second - I tried to search and founded in Amazon but there total price is Rs.2000 and in local I get the oil and the filter around 900 - wayyyyyyyyyyyyy tooooo much . But I am still keeping amazon as a backup plan if I don't get it in SVC .
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Good gracious AGAIN !!!!
Man I had this problem at this month which I sorted out - step by step . Please see if this helps or not - I love to mess with my bikes and I did - well the result was bad but I recovered and I am going on and on ! . So see if this helps or not -


Step 1 - See if your fuel pipe is ok or not , maybe there is a (leakage or crack -> change it) or some blockage because of impurities - In case of blockage it might be due to following reasons =
a) May be the paint around the fuel tank brim has peeled of and causing the blockage in the internal - WHICH HAPPENED WITH ME !! - tell the SVC to clean the tank and the pipe outlet -fuel pipe. In my case it was at the edge of the brim but I took within nick of time.
b) May be there is a air lock - it does not always happens with full fuel but can happen if the air pipe (i don't know the exact name there will be two/one hole around the brim to income the air in the tank) - maybe that might be clogged - clean it and please see that the tank air pipe has a rubber hose on the right hand side under the fuel tank might not be blocked or bent - check it. The 2 pipes will appear to be loose under normal condition - better take off the seat and see .
c) Are you using any kind of speed / premium petrol or mixing the both - premium and normal - if doing then undo it - remove the fuel and refill again.


Step 2 - In this step you have to do carburetor tuning - which I did without going to the SVC - DO IT ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS - I did because I dont want my bike to be touched by the SVC - I am successful by doing it .
a) Firts start your bike - if it sturggles then follow the point (1)-> below
1. CounterClockwise turn the RPM to 3000.
b) Now as your bike won't die do these following process - DONT GET NERVOUS BE STRONG AND DO IT !
2. Clockwise turn the A/F ratio to the leanest possible - BUT DONT OVERTURN THE SCREW THE LEANEST AS THE ENGINE WILL DIE AND WONT START
3. Now after the turn to the lean position now hear the engine sound - it sounds like it is dieing.
4. Now at this moment turn the A/F screw to the COUNTERCLOCKWISE to 3 to 3.1/2 or 4 TURNS.
5. In this stage the engine will have steady beat - not like dieing.
6. Now hear for 10 sec to see that at this stage there is nor struggling/stuttering of engine.
7. If point 6 does not happens now turn your RPM screw in clockwise to reduce the RPM TO 1200.
8. At this stage the engine will sound normal like any bike.
9. Switch off and start after 15 sec.
10. Start your bike and go for a 10-20 km ride.
11. Here there will be two situation
11A. The RPM needle might be high as 2000 RPM - You have to lower down to 1000 RPM by clockwise - EXTREMELY SLOW YOUR TURNS EXTREMELY - CLOCKWISE.
11B. The engine will sound normal - NO need for tuning.
11C. After riding for 10-20 km you should read the spark plug colour - go for the spark plug colour chart - internet(google)
12. If your engine has the normal beat and the spark plug has the normal colour(chart of the net) then no need for tuning.
13. If your engine is lean(less pickup/struggling) or has high amount of carbon diposit(black soot) - then again follow the tune in porcess


1A. RPM Settings - Clockwise turn to decrease the needle from X to Y point on Tacho(MAJOR POINT)
1B. RPM Settings - Counter Clockwise turns to increase needle from Y to X Point on Tacho(MAJOR POINT)


Example - 1A. If the tacho shows 2000 RPM then by the theory of clockwise it will go to 1000 RPM.
Now ----- 1B. If the tacho shows 1000 RPM then by the theory of counter clockwise it will go to 2000 RPM.


2A. Carburetor A/F - Clockwise from the X point to Y point results in lean mixture (MAJOR POINT)
2B. Carburetor A/F - Countrclockwise from the Y point to X point results in rich mixture (MAJOR POINT)


Example - 2A. A/F ratio - If we use the clockwise theory the turn from the the factory position or user position to the clockwise direction will result in lean mixture.
2B. A/F ratio - If we use the counterclockwise theory the turn from the factory position or user position or from the lean position will result in rich mixture .


This theory is suitable to all carburetor .

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Sorry I also forgot to inform another 3 reasons for struggling

1. CHECK YOU SPARK PLUG TIGHTNESS - BOTH SIDE - IF LOOSE THEN TIGHT IT
2. CHECK IF YOU AIR FILTER HAS BEEN PROPERLY TIGHTENED - SAME AS ABOVE / ALSO CHECK FOR ANY OIL IN THE FILTER
3. CHECK FOR THE INSPECTION WINDOW OF THE OIL TO SEE IF THE SERVICE GUY HAS POURED EXTRA OIL AS THE DO

Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

And about the temperature in here when I start the temp is around 12-13 'C and in that case also I use the choke for 15 sec and leave the bike for 1-2 min ideal and ride and I have no problem . And about the carburetor I have mine 29mm Micuni(may be some thing else I dont remeber) carburetor . Follow my process if that does not help then simply ask the SVC for replace dont go for repair the problem will be there - But I don't get it how come you are having this problem ? I am living in kolkata so the altitude here will be different than chennai for which I tuned the bike for optimal A/F ratio how come you are having this problems !

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Rugved,
thanx for reply,
My bird is only 1 month old and 550 kms clocked.
Thankyou for suggesting the enfield zone i'll look forward to it. yeah, i have gone through reviews, seems like legitimate workshop for enfields.
i was thinking about Vm24 makuni carb but as you suggested no need to change so i am dropping that idea.


Rohan,
thankyou for both replies,
i don't think there is problem in fuel pipe (or breakage) because in day time my bird performing smooth & tuned. even yes it is idling at 1000 rpm without any indication of dying. but in nights, even after reeving engine for 2 min. at 2000 rpm (manually) engine dies so again i have to play with idle screw.
talking about carb tuning, i know the procedure of tuning (also thanx for confirming) but at the time of first service, i was told by workshop manager that first service from ASC includes carb tuning.
i dont have techo meter, even i don't know how to connect with engine. (if possible pls tell me the techo brand & connection).
I checked spark plugs they are good
air filter good
oil level good



one more thing, if vehicle is in warranty then they have to replace full carburetor free of cost right? if any one of you know procedure of replacement at ASC pls explain.

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Well you just answered you problem - Thumb Rule when after starting your engine in case of Carb after 5-7 hrs never apply throttle/rev and that in TB case not to 2000 for 2 min - What I do after 7-8 hrs of ideal I first check whether I need choke - if it is day no need just press the start button for 3 sec the engine will roar but in case in night I use kick start by keeping the bike in double stand or if the temp is less than 20'C I use choke and self start it . In your case I have a solution when after idealing your bike more than 5hrs check the temp of engine by touching it , if it is normal then simply use self , if it is cold press the choke and self it , in which the bike will start and won't die . Now after starting in which ever mode slowly rev it to 1500-1200 rpm not more than that and that too in half beat of time not like continuous rev .

In case if carburetor change , well there are two options - 1) Go to the svc which has higher reputation and tell them your problem - it will get solved or 2) Ask for replacement , but they will not do it as it is only a tuning problem - if you are reluctant to change then buy from market the OEM TB Carburetor and take that to SVC for change which will costs you for labour ! - Either case it is your decision - but you don't have to change as it is simply a tuning and user error !

WHAT YOUR BIKE DOES NOT HAVE TACHO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Man you have TB 350 and that too 2014 later model it shouldddddddddddd have - I am really !!

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And 1 more thing how come your TB have such tuning problem ???
And don't trust your SVC 1st service tuning procedure - they are !!@# holes - if you know the process then do it by yourself ! at least you won't ask yourself for money you have done and secondly you will do great !
Self service of any RE should be done by users - Engine oil change/Oil filter change/Spark plug clean and change/Disk brakes both-clean and change/Air Filter change-clean/Fuel pipe change or clean/Carburetor tuning/Chain lube and clean- = All this can be done by users , which I do | But in case of wires(clutch/TPS/Accel) , Clutch plates , Chain tight , Battery change at that time only go to the SVC - other than that no need for the help of SVC !

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sorry i forgot to mention digital tachometer (they use it as external measurement device). people used to tune their engine with digital tachometer (for accurate measurement of RPM). Tb instrument cluster has analog meter which is not that much accurate. Also on next sunday i am going to tune my engine myself.

Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

Hey friends I have installed wild boar exhaust on my tbts 350 and it has been close to 3k kms since the change from stock exhaust. My query is post the speed of 50kmph I experience a dead zone where the bike requires some more acceleration to go further, it doesn't cruise and I feel the bike runs out of breath. Is this because of the exhaust change. I believe the silencer is a free flow as I can see through it from end to end. Apart from this any speed above 60kmph is very audible and the thump sound is missing and I only hear a humming sound. Also In stop and go traffic when the bike is in 2nd gear the bike requires some effort to move and sometimes it lugs. Kindly advise me in this regard.

Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

Sounds like carb jet cleaning required. Also check if it's revving too much to point out clutch plate slippage.

Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

Got a fuel guage failure issue.my first issue in 11 months of ownership.

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Informed the Service centre? got it replaced yet ?