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**firen** · 05-18-2011, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by xionite View Post

here's a Joe Rocket that's pretty decent.

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and an ONeal Monster Energy Jacket.

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Thanks for those!!.. Sure looks nice..

**snapppy** · 05-18-2011, 01:42 PM

Hi Guys,
A friend of mine was contemplating on buying a used (2010 model) Ninja for 2.7L blr. The bike has around 8000KM's clocked. is it a fair deal?

**Eshan-P180** · 05-18-2011, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by snapppy View Post

Hi Guys,
A friend of mine was contemplating on buying a used (2010 model) Ninja for 2.7L blr. The bike has around 8000KM's clocked. is it a fair deal?

Nope...2.7 is to high!!!
Being ridden for 8k is too much battering. yes the bike might have been redlined so far....the best amount would be around 1.9 to 2.0..not more than that!!!

**n_aditya** · 05-18-2011, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

Being ridden for 8k is too much battering. yes the bike might have been redlined so far....the best amount would be around 1.9 to 2.0..not more than that!!!

How did you arrive at the conclusion that the bike would have been battered without even seeing it or riding it? What made you suggest that price (1.9/2.0) in your post? Any logic, please share.

**xionite** · 05-18-2011, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by snapppy View Post

Hi Guys,
A friend of mine was contemplating on buying a used (2010 model) Ninja for 2.7L blr. The bike has around 8000KM's clocked. is it a fair deal?

2.7 lac is quite a bit to pay for an 8K old N250R.

unless the bike's got aftermarket stuff on it.
(exhaust, frame sliders, a seat cowl, aftermarket screen... etc.)

if the bike's stock... 2.2/2.3 lac is the upper limit.

so a decent buy would be between 1.8 lac to 2.1 lac ish.

keep in mind... that no one buys a N250R to ride "slow".

so make sure friend rides the bike before he buys it.

ask the owner if he's OK with having the bike checked by a ProBiking service center... that way he'd cover all his bases.

**Hyperion** · 05-18-2011, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

Nope...2.7 is to high!!!
Being ridden for 8k is too much battering. yes the bike might have been redlined so far....the best amount would be around 1.9 to 2.0..not more than that!!!

2.0/1.9?

You gotta be kidding. I wouldnt let it go for anything less than the IDV, which should be 2.4.

**antz.bin** · 05-18-2011, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Hyperion View Post

2.0/1.9?

You gotta be kidding. I wouldnt let it go for anything less than the IDV, which should be 2.4.

Actually you get IDV for the bike in case it is a Total - Loss / stolen. Since we can still see / ride the bike, It deserves to sell at least at IDV if not more. If the resale value of Ninja is so low... Owners would be better served if they throw their bikes into a river instead of selling them.. At least they would make an extra 20-30 grand that way

(50 grand in case you are selling to Eshaan)

Originally posted by n_aditya View Post

How did you arrive at the conclusion that the bike would have been battered without even seeing it or riding it? What made you suggest that price (1.9/2.0) in your post? Any logic, please share.

Thats actually the price, he wants to buy such a Ninja at. But considering the battering and mileage on his own P180 and applying a similar depreciation, his bike will sell at more like 10 grand.

**xionite** · 05-18-2011, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by Hyperion View Post

2.0/1.9?

You gotta be kidding. I wouldnt let it go for anything less than the IDV, which should be 2.4.

2.0-2.2 lac seems OK actually. depending on the condition of the bike.

i'm sure at 8K... the tyres will have to be replaced.

but... one major downside is... No Warranty for the second buyer.

and with a bike like the Ninja...
that's quite an important "price-down-bringing-argument"

**snapppy** · 05-18-2011, 02:54 PM

I guess 2 would be too low, at least for Blr where on-road price is the highest in the country. I hav asked him to take a look at the bike and if he finds everything ok, quote 2.3 and stretch up to a max of 2.4. I guess, tats a fair deal.

**snapppy** · 05-18-2011, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by xionite View Post

2.0-2.2 lac seems OK actually. depending on the condition of the bike.

i'm sure at 8K... the tyres will have to be replaced.

but... one major downside is... No Warranty for the second buyer.

and with a bike like the Ninja...
that's quite an important "price-down-bringing-argument"

Very valid points. especially the last one which would help a lot during negotiation. thanks for the update.

**n_aditya** · 05-18-2011, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Hyperion View Post

I wouldnt let it go for anything less than the IDV, which should be 2.4.

+1. Unless its a distress sale, no point in selling the ninja for anything less than the IDV.

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

If the resale value of Ninja is so low... Owners would be better served if they throw their bikes into a river instead of selling them.. At least they would make an extra 20-30 grand that way

(50 grand in case you are selling to Eshaan)

Thats actually the price, he wants to buy such a Ninja at. But considering the battering and mileage on his own P180 and applying a similar depreciation, his bike will sell at more like 10 grand.

ROFL !!! You had me in splits man.

Originally posted by xionite View Post

i'm sure at 8K... the tyres will have to be replaced. but... one major downside is... No Warranty for the second buyer. and with a bike like the Ninja... that's quite an important "price-down-bringing-argument"

The rear tire wears out faster than the one on the front. But even at 8k it would be too early to warrant a tyre change unless it has track spec soft compound tires on it. Stock IRC's last anywhere between 14000 kms to 18000 kms.

So even if the rear tire needs replacement, it costs a measly 4k.

20k to 40k less for this reason is uncalled for.

And on the warranty part, of all the 1000+ ninja's sold till date in India, there has not been a single bike with a major issue, engine related or otherwise. Not a strong point to argue, but nevertheless its between the seller and the buyer to haggle it out

Originally posted by snapppy View Post

I guess 2 would be too low, at least for Blr where on-road price is the highest in the country. I hav asked him to take a look at the bike and if he finds everything ok, quote 2.3 and stretch up to a max of 2.4. I guess, tats a fair deal.

2.3L or 2.4L is a reasonable and a realistic figure. Quoting as less as Eshan suggested would definitely offend the seller.

**xionite** · 05-18-2011, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by n_aditya View Post

Unless its a distress sale, no point in selling the ninja for anything less than the IDV.

remember the Ninja 250R that sold for 1.5 lac.

Originally posted by n_aditya View Post

And on the warranty part, of all the 1000+ ninja's sold till date in India, there has not been a single bike with a major issue, engine related or otherwise. Not a strong point to argue, but nevertheless its between the seller and the buyer to haggle it out

true.

but trust me tho... i've been to a few N250R re-sales...
and the warranty thing IS prolly the biggest reason for the re-sale price going down.
(most bikes look virtually brand new / are in brilliant condition.)

the market for the N250R is "small"...
and the second hand market is even smaller.

it's not easy to sell a Ninja250R at the price you (the owner) wants.
it's all good on paper... but the buyer will make-up/find all kinda reasons/excuses to pay you as little as he can.

come 2012... i'm thiking it'll be easy to buy a Ninja 250R at 1.5 lac.

hehehe... seriously.

**Eshan-P180** · 05-18-2011, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by n_aditya View Post

How did you arrive at the conclusion that the bike would have been battered without even seeing it or riding it? What made you suggest that price (1.9/2.0) in your post? Any logic, please share.

You have a god dam ninja...wat u expect??? to be ridden at 40kmph???

**Eshan-P180** · 05-18-2011, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

Actually you get IDV for the bike in case it is a Total - Loss / stolen. Since we can still see / ride the bike, It deserves to sell at least at IDV if not more. If the resale value of Ninja is so low... Owners would be better served if they throw their bikes into a river instead of selling them.. At least they would make an extra 20-30 grand that way

(50 grand in case you are selling to Eshaan)

Thats actually the price, he wants to buy such a Ninja at. But considering the battering and mileage on his own P180 and applying a similar depreciation, his bike will sell at more like 10 grand.

my p-180 is red lined all the time....iam running out of roads!!!! 10 grand for my bike....5K is max cz i know how the bike is being ridden....

**Eshan-P180** · 05-18-2011, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by xionite View Post

2.0-2.2 lac seems OK actually. depending on the condition of the bike.

i'm sure at 8K... the tyres will have to be replaced.

but... one major downside is... No Warranty for the second buyer.

and with a bike like the Ninja...
that's quite an important "price-down-bringing-argument"

yess dude...thats the reason for such low cost....thanx for highlighting them!

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