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  • Originally posted by Mithungo View Post
    This is a part of the ownership experience .Also keep in mind that PBK guys quote the very maximum - so there is certainly a chance that your bill will be much less than 1.5L, since some parts may not need to be replaced.
    The frame being metal you will get ~90% of the cost reimbursed. I would suggest you go for the Frame replacement asap and replace the fairings as money comes in.(Claiming insurance for the fairings then is going to be tricky).
    P.S: I am assuming your fairings are not that badly broken - from the pics I see.
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    Hey mithun, Thank you so much man! And yeah I know they quote a lot. Yep, As you said I am going to replace the frame as soon as possible and then later go for the fairings. I will soon update on the other stuff they've quoted as well. Thanks a lot.
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    • Originally posted by maheshkmr View Post
      Looks like the battery have some juice left but don't have enough power to work starter motor. The lights go off and on because of the load created by starter motor. In this situation push start will work. Do it in 2nd gear. Otherwise detatch the battery and charge it from a battery shop. The third option is, if you have access to another bike or its battery, it can be used to start your bike with some wires ( you don't need to detatch the batterty). Alternately you can use 9v battery with jumper cables, I remember I have read it in the service manual. Check it.
      Yep, Push started the bike (in 2nd gear) with the help of another xbhpian. Let the bike on Idle for some 15 minutes and then rode to PBK. No issues after that. Have given the bike for service (Odo stands at 31,95x Kilometers) - PBK said they will charge the battery for 10 hours and that would be good enough for now.

      Thanks all for your inputs.
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      • Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post
        Guys, I had given my bike for the estimate. Guess what? the estimate comes up to a whooping 1.5lcs without the side fairing! OMG! I've not yet seen the list for parts damaged and needed. But the guy told me that my frame(Chassis) has bent and I would have to replace the entire stuff which is 60,000rs. I am totally out right now. It wasn't a high speed impact but then how could the frame bend.
        If the insurance don't give me a good clearance then I guess I will not repair my ninja at all. Because I seriously can't afford 1.5lcs at this moment!
        PBK guys put in all the possible items in the initial estimate. It is not an actual estimate. This practice is because if the items is not in initial estimate, it becomes very difficult to convince insurance guy to add it in subsequently.

        Looking at the condition of both side fairings, I seriously doubt that you would have bent chassis.

        Another thing that I did not understand is why the fairings are not in initial estimate? My suggestion is to get someone whom you know and is knowledgeable about insurance matters involved in your case.

        I guess the actual estimate for the complete work would not cross 60-70k and insurance would cover most of it. So rest assured and do not lose your sleep.
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        • Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
          PBK guys put in all the possible items in the initial estimate. It is not an actual estimate. This practice is because if the items is not in initial estimate, it becomes very difficult to convince insurance guy to add it in subsequently.

          Looking at the condition of both side fairings, I seriously doubt that you would have bent chassis.

          Another thing that I did not understand is why the fairings are not in initial estimate? My suggestion is to get someone whom you know and is knowledgeable about insurance matters involved in your case.

          I guess the actual estimate for the complete work would not cross 60-70k and insurance would cover most of it. So rest assured and do not lose your sleep.
          +1 , may be those showroom guys tryign to bank on ur condition, check with some other PBK if possible , i seriously doubt the cost would come that much, its insane
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          • Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
            PBK guys put in all the possible items in the initial estimate. It is not an actual estimate. This practice is because if the items is not in initial estimate, it becomes very difficult to convince insurance guy to add it in subsequently.

            Looking at the condition of both side fairings, I seriously doubt that you would have bent chassis.

            Another thing that I did not understand is why the fairings are not in initial estimate? My suggestion is to get someone whom you know and is knowledgeable about insurance matters involved in your case.

            I guess the actual estimate for the complete work would not cross 60-70k and insurance would cover most of it. So rest assured and do not lose your sleep.
            Haha.. Thanks a lot bro. So you mean I will be having a bent chassis on lookin at the pics?
            I don't know why the side fairings aren't involved and yes after your suggestion called up one of my dad's old friend who works in the same insurance company he told me he would help me on this. I've yet to look at the list. I will let you know what these pbk guys have quoted for which parts.
            Originally posted by nagoo View Post
            +1 , may be those showroom guys tryign to bank on ur condition, check with some other PBK if possible , i seriously doubt the cost would come that much, its insane
            Yeah, but the problem is chennai has only one dealer. So I should call up bang or hyd and ask them. thanks anyways
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            • Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post
              Guys, I had given my bike for the estimate. Guess what? the estimate comes up to a whooping 1.5lcs without the side fairing! OMG! I've not yet seen the list for parts damaged and needed. But the guy told me that my frame(Chassis) has bent and I would have to replace the entire stuff which is 60,000rs. I am totally out right now. It wasn't a high speed impact but then how could the frame bend.
              If the insurance don't give me a good clearance then I guess I will not repair my ninja at all. Because I seriously can't afford 1.5lcs at this moment!
              It is an estimate only which is normally very higher than the actual repair cost because of the reasons trustvishwas ji had mentioned. Once my R15 got an estimate of 90k after an acident but the actual repair cost was around 14k. So if it is the case with the R15 you can guess what will be with Ninja. One of my neighbour's ninja involved in an accident and got an estimate of 4.5 Lacs but he never repaired it and it is still lying on pbk so can't tell the actual cost. btw, how the accident happened? It looks like a minor accident and there is no damage to the frame, forks etc, so dont worry

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              • Just got the list of parts for the estimation.

                1. 4000k for the left foot res

                2. 8.5k for the speedometer cover (There was no damage to the cover but these guys have put that in the estimation)

                3. 16k for the Inner pipe fork ( I find no damage again there)

                4. 31k for the Muffler

                5. 55k for the frame - chassis. ( My dad says its just a small bend near the chain guard caused due to the broken front foot rest left )

                6. 12k for Arm-comp-swing (Don't know what that really is)

                7. 1.5k for gear lever

                8. 9k for Stay-comp, Upp cowli ( Don't know what that is)

                9. 10k for labour.

                10. Few Hundreds for some smalll stuff

                Duhhh.. I have nothing to say. But any idea on what the 8th and the 6th one really are??
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                • Originally posted by maheshkmr View Post
                  It is an estimate only which is normally very higher than the actual repair cost because of the reasons trustvishwas ji had mentioned. Once my R15 got an estimate of 90k after an acident but the actual repair cost was around 14k. So if it is the case with the R15 you can guess what will be with Ninja. One of my neighbour's ninja involved in an accident and got an estimate of 4.5 Lacs but he never repaired it and it is still lying on pbk so can't tell the actual cost. btw, how the accident happened? It looks like a minor accident and there is no damage to the frame, forks etc, so dont worry
                  Yea I know but these guys are too high man :O. I mean they literally quoted every main part of the bike lol. Seriously! 4.5lcs Haha that's more than the cost of a new 250r dude.
                  And these service guys are so disinterested. Hoping for this ORIENTAL INSURANCE people to save my money!
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                  • Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post

                    6. 12k for Arm-comp-swing (Don't know what that really is)

                    Duhhh.. I have nothing to say. But any idea on what the 8th and the 6th one really are??
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                    Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post
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                    8. 9k for Stay-comp, Upp cowli ( Don't know what that is)
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                    • Hey bro, the links were useful but I am not able to figure out the upper cowling. where do they come?
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                      • Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post
                        Just got the list of parts for the estimation.

                        1. 4000k for the left foot res
                        4000k?

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                        • Originally posted by Asellus Borealis View Post
                          4000k?
                          Yep 4 0 0 0
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                          • Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post
                            Just got the list of parts for the estimation.

                            1. 4000k for the left foot res

                            2. 8.5k for the speedometer cover (There was no damage to the cover but these guys have put that in the estimation)

                            3. 16k for the Inner pipe fork ( I find no damage again there)

                            4. 31k for the Muffler

                            5. 55k for the frame - chassis. ( My dad says its just a small bend near the chain guard caused due to the broken front foot rest left )

                            6. 12k for Arm-comp-swing (Don't know what that really is)

                            7. 1.5k for gear lever

                            8. 9k for Stay-comp, Upp cowli ( Don't know what that is)

                            9. 10k for labour.

                            10. Few Hundreds for some smalll stuff

                            Duhhh.. I have nothing to say. But any idea on what the 8th and the 6th one really are??
                            Woooooaaaaah....it's not that I didn't expect that much amount..but based on your description and the pics..I really didn't think it would be damaged that much...Do you have an option to exchange it for a new ride?
                            On a serious note..around 130000 for repairs..If I had the chance I would give away the damaged bike and get a new one. But not sure how feasible that is.
                            Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                            • Originally posted by R-series View Post
                              Woooooaaaaah....it's not that I didn't expect that much amount..but based on your description and the pics..I really didn't think it would be damaged that much...Do you have an option to exchange it for a new ride?
                              On a serious note..around 130000 for repairs..If I had the chance I would give away the damaged bike and get a new one. But not sure how feasible that is.
                              To be precise these pbk guys quoted wayy more than I expected too
                              If they find a small scratch on the handle bar they would want you to change the entire stuff that's the way they work. And I've just typed in the estimation and I won't change all these parts. So roughly it should work up to 50k not more than that for sure.
                              For example , As of my front inner fork is concerned there is just a small scratch on the right hand side right above the front disc but then when told these guys they suggested me to change the entire thing and included that in the estimation.
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                              • Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post
                                Yea I know but these guys are too high man :O. I mean they literally quoted every main part of the bike lol. Seriously! 4.5lcs Haha that's more than the cost of a new 250r dude.
                                And these service guys are so disinterested. Hoping for this ORIENTAL INSURANCE people to save my money!
                                That because we are getting the bike as CKD from thailand, so only paying nominal duty and India has a tie up with thailand too otherwise Ninja 250 R will cost around 6 Lacs here if it is CBU. Kawasaki spares are much highly priced than Honda spares abroad and high taxes here making the prices even higher. I think if we repair a totalled bike it would cost around 7 to 8L. I think bajaj is making profit from spares and service than selling bikes because if the price is higher they can't sell much bikes but the sold bikes need spares anyway. Sadly most of the potential buyers are not aware about the spare parts or maintanance cost of the Ninja before buying it that is the problem.

                                Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post
                                Yep 4 0 0 0 K!!!
                                4000 k means 40 Lacs dude

                                Originally posted by rkum4881 View Post
                                To be precise these pbk guys quoted wayy more than I expected too
                                If they find a small scratch on the handle bar they would want you to change the entire stuff that's the way they work. And I've just typed in the estimation and I won't change all these parts. So roughly it should work up to 50k not more than that for sure.
                                For example , As of my front inner fork is concerned there is just a small scratch on the right hand side right above the front disc but then when told these guys they suggested me to change the entire thing and included that in the estimation.
                                I think you are misunderstanding them. As we said earlier, these are the initial estimates. Thy will quote all the parts if they have doubt about damage. And once they get approval from the insurance they will only change the damaged parts. Imagine, if they haven't quoted inner tubes of the front fork and frame and during repair if they find they are slightly bent , you are not going to get insurance for that. So you need to buy them yourself, will you? Normally if the bike is new the svc peoples will replace all the damaged parts to get a new look. But keep in mind "a small scratch on the handle bar" is not going to get an approval for a replacement ratherthan a paint touchup. If the disc got deep scratch or it is bent it must be changed otherwise you will suffer in the future, so don't compromise with any mechanical parts.

                                I think this is your first experience or you are an over-thinking guy or you are really scared with this accident or by hearing the spares price. Don't worry, everything will be fine. I guess the total repair cost will be around 40 k to 75 k and you need to pay around 10k to 25k after insurance.

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