Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Hey Abhi, I felt my bike was fine too till I got a look at my bike's clutch plates. the speeds were same in under all the RPMs but had acceleration issues where I couldn't get the front wheel in air after the engine heated up.. usually after the engine heats up, the bike still pulls the front tire up. Since it wasn't happening, I got the clutch plates inspected and found all the plates life gone.. the pressure plates were still in good condition hence I didn't have to change them.. after changing the clutch plates, the bike pulls wheelies easily even after the engine is heated up..

My bike didn't show any of the above symptoms mentioned by psr sir and divya.. except the acceleration issues

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Well bro, these are my second set of clutch plates and I've done 10K kms on them only. I ride sanely, so i strongly doubt the clutch plates!! Lol! Ill try first by changing spark plugs.. Cause the one i have is pretty old. Will be opting for the stock ones.

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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

[MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION]
I really don't wish to argue like kids, but I think you are biased towards mrf zapper, whereas I hate them like anything.

I got my front disc brakes in mint condition by replacing master cylinder kit and the brake lever as well. Yesterday I was driving fast and slammed the front as hard as I could, the brakes worked extremely well and the grip (front sirac street) was phenomenal. The front tyre made a rubbery screeching sound while on the verge of losing it, not the flat khassssssssss sound produced by mrf zappers. Btw thanks to you, I keep 29 psi front and 32 rear, it's working perfectly for me.

I still can't get a grip on the reasons you mentioned in favour of mrf. Also, what do you mean by saying that Sirac street is cumbersome in ghats? I have driven it in all the possible conditions (except snow), and didn't notice a single con.

Although I can understand that this is not THE BEST front tire for zmr, but it's definitely better than stock zapper. Inputs by other motorcyclists are also welcome on this topic.

Please don't mind the language, I am a little impatient while typing, hence can't sugarcoat my words enough. I am curious as hell, that's all.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

The sirac street (manufactured by TVS btw) is one of the worst tyres out there, I did my research on the ZMA thread (after collating info from various sources) and concluded that I wouldn't take them in any case. While they might be ok in the dry, they're prone to skidding horribly in the wet. The same goes for the ZMA's default rear tyre - the Zapper Y (I believe). I got rid of the zappers and put in CEATs instead, which are doing well. The front Zapper wasn't too bad really. The Zapper C on the other hand is a nice and grippy tyre.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I've got sirac street on my bike. And the initial feeling of it was exactly like how divya had mentioned it. Lik installing a rear tyre as front! I could not lean nor steer at high speeds. The bike used to always pull in the opposite direction. However, I've got used to it. Grip is good but in wet conditions, it just keeps sliding. But yes, i feel its better than stock overall. You just need to get used to it. But definitely is not the best. Shall be opting for a better one next time!

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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Wish Sirac was still available.

Sirac Street per me is as good as any other hard compound tyre. CEAT is better than Sirac Street. [emoji106]

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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Members have already said what I wanted to say. Maybe its my usage pattern and riding style. I don't go about touring at high speeds or knee downs in curves/ghats.
I find Zapper FS potent enough, something I felt missing on the Sirac. Changing directions on it was difficult and it wasn't very comfortable in rains.

I guess its just individual experiences for the both of us.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I used a Sirac Street both in front and rear.. the sirac street for front tire was awesome.. mind blowing grip both in wet and dry conditions.. On the other hand, the sirac up in rear tire was fish tailing in wet roads.. almost met my death 3 times after which I decided to make a change... I changed the sirac street at rear to MRF Zapper Q and till now, I never faced fish tailing. I have been on snow, rain, terrain, roads with no tarmac but stones and till now, never faced an issue..

The only reason I didn't go back with Sirac Up in front was it isn't tubeless and I wanted to use tubeless tires though I never faced a single puncture with the sirac in front.. I would recommend that tire to anyone asking for front tire options other than MRF..

I am currently using Dunlop Monster up front... The tire is pure tubeless and I haven't got a chance to test the tires in extensive wet conditions yet.. the performance is pretty neat. as good as the sirac street up in front..

Divya isn't biased, but giving a suggestion after what the other members have faced..

I am looking forward to changing the rear tire in another 5K kms.. Will probably wait for the Xtreme sports rear tire to come up into the market..

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

You were spot on mate! Even I don't prefer sirac street for the rear, all the things you said about the rear sirac street are true. That's why I had to look at other options, currently I have PSD 120 rear and i think it's the best!

I didn't have any such problems as explained by others, MAYBE mine was not the tvs one? I bought it in Jan 2013.

I wasn't blaming divya Sharan seriously, it was a pun. Anyways I found out a lot of better options from everyone's replies, thanks to all you guys.

Btw can you shed more light on the grip pattern, rubber compund and cost of dunlop monster tires? I would love to get a Dunlop any given day. Assuming it's a soft compound, I think it should be lighter and a little better than sirac street.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Naah mate! I would still stand by my experience with Sirac's "F" tire! I already said it may well just be "my" experience and that "I" am comfortable with the stock MRF Front tire due to "my" usage and riding pattern.
This is an open forum. Agree to disagree.

But yes, discussing various experiences helps everyone since we get to know all options.
In fact, since you "hate" MRFs; let me rub one more fact unto you. Try fitting passion XPro's stock front tire to your bike. MRF Zapper FQ. It is a bloody good tire.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Thats an understatement, I had Dunlop Monster Trail at rear and when the front would slip, the motorcycle would do something of a 180 degree circle with the rear tire as pivot.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Would love to see that once along with the look on your face!

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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I meant to say I hate mrf zapper (hard compound) tires which comes in 150+ cc bikes. I know that the stock mrf tires in passion etc are good. I also admire the mrf stock tires in r15.
Btw why do you defend mrf so much.

For a change, can you please comment on tires other than sirac street and mrf? I would like to know 2 to 3 worthy options for zmr front. Requirements: best grip in cornering and braking, life at least 25 to 30000 kms.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I don't! I just find them good enough for the KariZMX twins given the dearth of options in the market.

Front -> Zapper FS - decent, Zapper FQ - Good, Sirac - Not to my taste/heavy/bad in rain, Ceat (forgot the model name) - decent/not easily available, TVS Srichakra - Worst!, Pirelli Sport Demon - Great (comes on RE Continental GT)

Rear -> Zapper Y - worst, Zapper Q - Good, Ceat Zoom - Good, Sirac - poor, Pirelli Sport Demon - Great (puncture prone), Michelin M45 - Awesome (best for ZMX), Meteor series - good.

These are the ones that come to mind right now.