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  • #17311
    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    110 is the width, so that would remain the same. Now the tire may have a flat profile or a round profile. Since Meteor 100/90-18 has a flat profile, it *looks* wider than the stock tire.
    90 is the percentage of height of the sidewall. So, 100/90 means that the tire is 100 section and sidewall is 90% of 100, i.e, 90 section. Similarly, 110/90 has a 110 section tire with 99 section sidewall height. This would increase the seat height a bit. 120/80 means 96 section sidewall and height increment would be lesser than 110/90.
    Lastly, 18 is the rim size. Hope this helps.
    That was very helpful, now I got to know that profile doesn't matter the tyre width remains the same
    So I can go for 110 sized zapper Q IN FUTURE ? I.e 110/80/18(dealer have this ) or 110/90/18 without mods
    Downgrading side wall height doesn't effect ? Only height gets reduced right

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    • #17312
      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by vickyraj82 View Post
      Downgrading side wall height doesn't effect ? Only height gets reduced right
      Sidewall plays an important role in cushioning road shocks. Too low sidewall can damage alloy and reduce ride quality since the sidewall cushioning effect is reduced. Just make sure overall tyre height doesn't go too low with new tyres.

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      • #17313
        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Originally posted by vickyraj82 View Post
        Downgrading side wall height doesn't effect ? Only height gets reduced right
        Just don't go (a lot) lower than stock, else you will always be in danger of damaging rims and suspension components.
        In fact 110/80 can be used since it's almost the same as stock (88 mm vs 90 mm) instead of 110/90.
        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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        • #17314
          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by John P Daniel View Post
          Sidewall plays an important role in cushioning road shocks. Too low sidewall can damage alloy and reduce ride quality since the sidewall cushioning effect is reduced. Just make sure overall tyre height doesn't go too low with new tyres.
          Thanks for the reply and suggestion
          So reducing from 90(stock) to 80 isn't preferable In 110 width tyres ? It's not too low but one size down and this dealer don't have 110/90/18 size and others don't even have clue about 110 TL tyres in zapper




          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          Just don't go (a lot) lower than stock, else you will always be in danger of damaging rims and suspension components.
          In fact 110/80 can be used since it's almost the same as stock (88 mm vs 90 mm) instead of 110/90.
          Sure won't go less than 80 wall but why should I not go with 110/90 (if availability is there ) ? Will it be more coz 90% of 110 will give more height than 100/90 and if so is it recommended?

          How to check 110/80/18 is a direct fit w/o purchasing the tyre ? Coz the dealer ,mechanic confidently said chain guard touches the sidewall . Any testing tyres available or something of that sort
          Lastly and suggestions for 110 TL tyres in this current market ? Either people have 100 or 120 size ,110 is like 1000 Rs note hard to find b/w 500 and 2000

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          • #17315
            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by vickyraj82 View Post
            Thanks for the reply and suggestion
            So reducing from 90(stock) to 80 isn't preferable In 110 width tyres ? It's not too low but one size down and this dealer don't have 110/90/18 size and others don't even have clue about 110 TL tyres in zapper
            110/80 is almost the same in sidewall height as stock 100/90, so that can be done without any harm.
            [MENTION=53321]abhi7013[/MENTION] had a 110/80-18 rear tire. He can attest to it not causing any trouble. AFAIK, he didn't have to cut or remove the chain cover either.
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • #17316
              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
              110/80 is almost the same in sidewall height as stock 100/90, so that can be done without any harm.
              [MENTION=53321]abhi7013[/MENTION] had a 110/80-18 rear tire. He can attest to it not causing any trouble. AFAIK, he didn't have to cut or remove the chain cover either.
              Had to go back to my bike and look at the figures on the tyre as i have forgotten which one it is. Lol!
              As u said, its 110/80-18 and it sits comfortably!

              Ps: Tyre is the best i have used till now and VFM compared to Pirelli. The lower width makes it look pretty good too! Completed 20k kms on it and i can easily do a lot more... Disadvantage is that its not TL.
              Last edited by abhi7013; 11-15-2016, 09:26 AM.
              ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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              • #17317
                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Time to change my ZMR rear tyre....reading all recent messages related to MRF tyre...

                Want to know differences between Zapper Y and Q....I can view on MRF website 110/90 -18 TL is available in Zapper Y

                Also, want to know the reviews on MOGRIP METEOR and ZAPPER VYDE..both are available in 100/90 - 18 TL

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                • #17318
                  Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                  Had to go back to my bike and look at the figures on the tyre as i have forgotten which one it is. Lol!
                  As u said, its 110/80-18 and it sits comfortably!

                  Ps: Tyre is the best i have used till now and VFM compared to Pirelli. The lower width makes it look pretty good too! Completed 20k kms on it and i can easily do a lot more... Disadvantage is that its not TL.
                  Thanks for replying
                  That was a helpful review , u dint mentioned the model is it zapper Q one or any other ?
                  If it is zapper Q then now TL is available in market (only good dealers, and this is stock tyre for RE Bullet so scarcity ) and u can refer to my pics posted , but that guy just inspected and said a there's a 50-50 chance of chain guard rubbing side wall so I dint go for it (I should have)

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                  • #17319
                    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                    Time to change my ZMR rear tyre....reading all recent messages related to MRF tyre...

                    Want to know differences between Zapper Y and Q....I can view on MRF website 110/90 -18 TL is available in Zapper Y

                    Also, want to know the reviews on MOGRIP METEOR and ZAPPER VYDE..both are available in 100/90 - 18 TL
                    The website and real market had so much contrast , my exp was there's no zapper y in market only zapper Q and meteor in 100/90/18
                    Zapper Q 110 TL need to search hard , this is the situation in my area u can find ur luck in your area

                    Currently running on Meteor mogrip 300kms on it , u can find my review in last pages
                    It has great grip than stock by huge margin and looks wide
                    Normal Cornering gives u confidence than stock coz of side buttons
                    Need to see the wet grip
                    In sand gravel also it's good but only downside is bike wobbles shakes a lil bit when going slow or in poth holes coz of Buttons
                    The thread pattern smoothnes is lost
                    Overall a good tyre for city use and bad roads

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                    • #17320
                      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                      Time to change my ZMR rear tyre....reading all recent messages related to MRF tyre...

                      Want to know differences between Zapper Y and Q....I can view on MRF website 110/90 -18 TL is available in Zapper Y

                      Also, want to know the reviews on MOGRIP METEOR and ZAPPER VYDE..both are available in 100/90 - 18 TL
                      Zapper Q >> Zapper Y (by a huge margin).
                      Zapper Y doesn't have grooves where it matters most. At the center!
                      So, grip in rain is scary. 100/90-18 Zapper Y was the stock tire Karizma always came with and people rightly swapped it as soon as they could.

                      Zapper Q provides good grip and feedback in all conditions, except on gravel. Only button tires can perform well here anyways.

                      Now Meteor vs Vyde is like talking two different segments. Vyde is ultra soft and hence has awesome grip levels. But due to the same reasons, it lasts less and is puncture prone. Meteor lasts longer, is less puncture prone and provides good grip in gravel, but on normal roads and during rains, Vyde is better.
                      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                      • #17321
                        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by vickyraj82 View Post
                        Thanks for replying
                        That was a helpful review , u dint mentioned the model is it zapper Q one or any other ?
                        If it is zapper Q then now TL is available in market (only good dealers, and this is stock tyre for RE Bullet so scarcity ) and u can refer to my pics posted , but that guy just inspected and said a there's a 50-50 chance of chain guard rubbing side wall so I dint go for it (I should have)
                        Yes, zapper Q. Have you got one, or still looking for options? And i didn't know that there was a TL version..
                        ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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                        • #17322
                          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                          Time to change my ZMR rear tyre....reading all recent messages related to MRF tyre...

                          Want to know differences between Zapper Y and Q....I can view on MRF website 110/90 -18 TL is available in Zapper Y

                          Also, want to know the reviews on MOGRIP METEOR and ZAPPER VYDE..both are available in 100/90 - 18 TL

                          If you do not want to up size

                          Meteor- For Bad roads, dry roads or slush and gravel
                          Zapper Vyde - Good grip on wet roads but lesser life. Be prepared for Nails on roads.

                          If you want to Up Size

                          Zapper Q - 110/90-18 - Overall good but wet grip is Okayish compared to Vyde....TT also can be made as TL depending on the beeding pattern and very good life.
                          Zapper Y - Same as about but gives up on wet roads

                          I had no modifications to fit in a 120/80-18 Ceat Vertigo or 110/90-18 Zapper Q. You just need the right mechanic.
                          Jay

                          One who gets onto the road is never alone.

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                          • #17323
                            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by vickyraj82 View Post
                            The website and real market had so much contrast , my exp was there's no zapper y in market only zapper Q and meteor in 100/90/18
                            Zapper Q 110 TL need to search hard , this is the situation in my area u can find ur luck in your area

                            Currently running on Meteor mogrip 300kms on it , u can find my review in last pages
                            It has great grip than stock by huge margin and looks wide
                            Normal Cornering gives u confidence than stock coz of side buttons
                            Need to see the wet grip
                            In sand gravel also it's good but only downside is bike wobbles shakes a lil bit when going slow or in poth holes coz of Buttons
                            The thread pattern smoothnes is lost
                            Overall a good tyre for city use and bad roads
                            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                            Zapper Q >> Zapper Y (by a huge margin).
                            Zapper Y doesn't have grooves where it matters most. At the center!
                            So, grip in rain is scary. 100/90-18 Zapper Y was the stock tire Karizma always came with and people rightly swapped it as soon as they could.

                            Zapper Q provides good grip and feedback in all conditions, except on gravel. Only button tires can perform well here anyways.

                            Now Meteor vs Vyde is like talking two different segments. Vyde is ultra soft and hence has awesome grip levels. But due to the same reasons, it lasts less and is puncture prone. Meteor lasts longer, is less puncture prone and provides good grip in gravel, but on normal roads and during rains, Vyde is better.
                            Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                            Yes, zapper Q. Have you got one, or still looking for options? And i didn't know that there was a TL version..
                            Thanks you all for inputs..

                            Yesterday went to MRF trye shop...Zapper Y 110/90 18 TL is not available and they are not willing to get it stock due to ongoing currency crunch.....

                            View Zapper Q 110/90 18...liked it but it is not Tubeless....So not considering it..

                            Also, liked Vyde....so I select following in sequence

                            1. Zapper Y - 110/90 - 18 TL (If available)

                            2. Zapper Q - 100/90 - 18 TL

                            3. Vyde - 100/90 - 18 TL

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                            • #17324
                              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                              View Zapper Q 110/90 18...liked it but it is not Tubeless....So not considering it..
                              [MENTION=35912]vickyraj82[/MENTION] says it's available in TL form, though I'm not sure.

                              Reasons?
                              1. It's not mentioned on the website.
                              2. Many sellers sell that TT tire as TL (Zapper Q 110/90-18).

                              P.S - A tire is NOT tubeless unless it has TUBELESS written/embedded/embossed on it.
                              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                              • #17325
                                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Avoid using TT as TL at all costs.

                                I'm using zapper vyde n very much happy with it. Not sure how long it will last , so far competed around 6000+ kms with this tyre.

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