Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

For all ZMR/ZMA/Yam R15 etc., owners, there is a company called HR AUTOS who offer everything from body panels to fuel pumps etc., at half the price...here is a link..

Hero honda zmr complete parts solution # fuel - Chennai - Bikes - Chennai Central

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Thanks again , I will check with them and see if it fits my pocket and my doubt is ~ can I do this value tappets cleaning and engine gasket later too with a local mech ? Is it independent from engine or sensors ? Coz local mechs don't have the setup if it is related to sensors , I know a supervisor turned mechanic guy from HH who do repair privately at his home and he himself owns a Zmr

And fuel reserve is 1.9 litres I.e last point blinks if it's less than that , this is what I have been told so this 3 litres is what number bro ? And the reserve blink is always inaccurate sometimes I feel the manual reserve knob is better than this digital one

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Yes you can get tappets adjusted anywhere, as long as you have the feeler gauge with you. Local mechs don't use it, you'll have to provide it to them.
Regarding the reserve figure, 1.9 L is usable reserve. The pump sits outside the tank and it requires some amount to keep functioning. Hence, we ask people to maintain 3 liters in the tank all the time. Don't rely on the LED blinking bars alone. Keep a tab on what mileage you get and refuel accordingly.

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sorry for the late response , thanks i now understood about those tappets and the feeler guage
i went to SVC and they removed all the fairing and the clutch cabinet was opened and they found out this ,chain was loosened and those parts fell inside ,
Pics below



the last one is the upper chain rotor connected to clutch cabinet in 2nd pic

the supervisor said the whole clutch cabinet also should be changed along with the chain set which i suspect not required , any inputs ?

finally they said theyll open engine on monday(dussera vehicles so no time ) the Bore part and see whats the damage infront of me and the guy estimated a upto 20k will be the cost Incl. the clutch assembly the whole cabinet Ref: 2nd pic and i asked the mechanice personally he said clutch cabinet not required as opposed to the floor service manager who dint even want to give the list of parts on paper , only after opening the engine they will able to give the list of parts
eventhough i know the supervisor there i feel there (whom vehicle was assigned) theres something fishy

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these are the pics of Air cooler , Mech said need to be replaced



and the Right side part Bore area Pics , the black thing is the oil leaks from the Header , the same black thing can be seen on the pics in my prev post too

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

That's a lot of leak.. probably the gaskets had given up long back!!

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Ya bro as I mentioned earlier this was a like my default complaint on every service , and they dint bother to go beyond the o rings ie they dint told me about the header I feel that it is the main culprit for Oil leaks

Reg, gasket is this the engine gasket only right ? I asked the SVC guy he said will look into it once he start open the engine which is after dussera

Where can I find the pricelist of all the parts for Zmr bro ? I've searched in google and this forum but couldn't get it
I just want to know the price of Bore kit parts like piston walls , timming chain and clutch plates cost specifically TIA

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Finally my engine got opened and these are the parts need to be replaced , and the main culprit they said was timing chain pieces fallen into the engine itself but they told me to replace these Engine Internals , i asked why , they told rocker arms and Valves dont have free play and cam shaft is totally gone which i kind of agree(u guys can help so posting those pics if they need to replace or not) and
finally he said the Engine Bore should be replaced and the Bore Kit comes at Rs.4000 Incl. Piston
will be posting that in next post

these are the list with Reg. Engine parts change
1.camshaft
2.Cam chain Kit (Timing chain)
2.rock arms
3.Valve kit.

Cam shaft




Top angle of Engine PIston


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these are the Pics of the Engine Bore below, the supervisor told there are lines inside (which am unable to find out) and it should need to be replaced with New Bore Kit but i insisted i will change it later as am Skeptical about what he said , so i made him remove that part from the list of parts to be ordered from Spares section and he said will clean the Pistons with petrol etc and put the same Bore kit back

Guys can you please tell me have i did the right thing ? there were only turned blacked in the entrance of the Bore that too outer surface of the Bore (u can see in the pics Below)





My doubt do we need to change Bore and piston if we replace the Camshafts , rock arms, timing chain and valve set ? or all those are independent of each other and a not-so good Bore with all those new parts damage those new parts ?
if you recommed to change it by seeing those pics , i will ask them to Include this one too as the spares fitting will be done Monday am now confused
how do we find out the Bore is Worn out

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

How much has your bike run totally?
Bore needs to be checked by bore gauge for,head to a machine shop.
Scratches can be checked visually.
Look for deep scratches if any.

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Change them , We don't know what condition or damage they have incurred. Best bet is replacing all these. Cost will be higher but you will have peace of mind for next 5 years.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Thanks for reply
It has ran 47k kms
The SVc supervisor checked it visually only and I too checked for scratches there were none inside horizontal or vertical but he said we can't see with naked eye wtf only scratches were the brown marks as we can see it from the pics
He dint checked with guage , need to check with local mechanic

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Thanks for the reply
I am gonna replace all those mentioned in the list except for Bore kit which costs 4k as I am skeptical about replacing it , I feel it's has some life in it , coz 47k kms is way too low
The whole thing will cost around 8.6 k including air cooler and rear disk pads
Labour charges are 2.5k so final amt will be 11k

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

^^Is your bike under warranty?

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Change the bore kit.
The bore has no scratches but it has taper wear. So it will loose performance when engine heats up.

4k is nothing. Change it to get new like performance and mileage.

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Nope bro , mine is 2011 Make ZMR


thanks for the reply,
what is a taper wear ? is this the Brown marks in the starting ? and if i continue with the same Bore along with performance any problems that may occur to the newly installed, camshaft,rock arms, etc or do it lead to engine/piston getting struck ? if so, how to know before hand that the engine may fail and bore need to change it soon ,

4k is not a big thing bro but i just want to keep the stock bore kit as long as it works properly

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Completed my bike's 97k service yesterday. Now it's smooth as butter. Spent a little over 3k in the process.
Parts replaced or worked upon - brake pads, brake calipers bush, brake lines, brake oil, engine oil, tappets, air filter, swingarm bush, chain cleaner, chain grease, air filter, clutch cable, diesel wash, drain bolt, few O rings, throttle body etc.

Dressed the tires and detailed the ageing beauty.



Current ODO:

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I think it's the angle of the pic that makes it appear as if there is taper wear
The bore is supposed to have a uniform diameter across its entire length. Taper wear is when one part of the bore is narrower than the other (something like an icecream cone, but not as obvious.. these are usually out by a tenth of a mm and not really visible to the naked eye in most cases.)
One needs to measure the diameter of the bore at different spots in the bore to determine if its worn uneven (like taper or oval). This is done using a dial/bore gauge.

Here is an example: