Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Awesome :thumbup:

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Hi! The centre stand broke during the recent ride to Spiti. Tried welding it but it's too rusted for a weld to hold on. Wanted to know if Hero duplicates.the same central stand on any other model? Zmr stand is not available.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I assume Karizma R's Main stand.. where did you check?

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Ess Aay Motors, Karol Bagh.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

There are many more SVCs.. Jill Mill has 2 SVCs.. Vaishali has one near Vaishali Metro Station, Noida has 2 that I know.. one in Sec 59 and in Sec 12

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

As of today morning. Had to take 8 rounds inside office parking lot to cover that last 1 km. [emoji23]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Hey Guys Just wanted to share some adventures with my ZMR.. 45K Kms still going strong like never before......

ALl I wanna say that is I have taken this beast to almost every where..... it just dont disappoint you in any aspect .... Brilliant machine

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

hi guys
i own an ZMR which ran 47kms, my bike is not starting all of a sudden
i changed oil to castrol 15w40 for the 1st time(prev HH recomoned oil only) yesterday since there was a huge sounds like a Bullet engine from day before yesterday so i changed the oil immediately but still the sound couldnt go and today it stopped in running went to a local mech who checked spark plug , then Fuses and then he poured oil in Engine head near to spark plug but no luck he said its something bigger take it to Hero Service cente

i went to a hero mini service station the guy told the reason might be combustion is not happening may be becoz of piston bend problem or sensor or fuel pump problem and they dont do it as they wont get spare parts soon
so i took my bike in trolley to a HH Service station in Malakpet( Hyderabad) which is near my home as it which costed me 1200 bucks , and they said they will check it tomorrow but want some insights on it as i have zero idea on this segment

and previous oil change was like 4-5 months and last my bike half drowned in water few times in rains last week so someone help me out or suggest me on this ? TIA

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Your bike has run 47 kms or 47k kms..?

From what you are saying. I have a feeling of piston bent or engine seizure..

Did the bike leak oil?
If the bike was making noise from day one. You should have got it checked day 1.. not after completing 47k kms (If I am right)

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

1. Was oil (Castrol) poured in the first place? Because sometimes mech drain old oil and mysteriously forget re-filling the same. And how much was poured?
2. If air filter sucked in water, then there are chances it entered the engine. Hydrolock can't be ruled out now. If it is indeed Hydrolock, then you may be looking at valve bends, piston cracks and stuff.
3. When were your tappets (valve clearance) last set?

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Thanks for replying, my bike ran 47k kms sorry for he typo 2011 model

If the problem is piston bent or seizure , if those are replaced will my problem be solved or any repair can be done w/o replacing

And reg eng sound,it was not from stArting but after da free servicing like around 20k kms and the oil leaks also From the same time and I insist on this to HH guys everytime I give it for servicing . They sometimes said tightened the bolt but still it persists even. Now

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1.Ya it was poured infront of me 1L of castrol after draining old oil ,may be few drops were left , the local mech guy said the sound will be gone after oil circulation with few kms ride but dint go

2. I am also thinking it may be the culprit as this is da 1st time I got this problem like huge beating sounds and ignition not able to stArt , I feel the power starter is fine it gives the usual sounds but engine firing sound won't come

3. Sorry bro I am unaware of it , where will it be located ?

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

It happens

Ok, I am sorry. I meant to say valve bend and not piston bend..


When your bike was making the engine noise at 20k kms, how much oil was drained out? Can you check for black carbon deposits on the tip of the silencer?

Do the service guys change the O ring of the drain bolt whenever the oil was drained? This is the main reason for most of the oil leaks.. the SVC guys never change the O ring unless asked to.. the more you tight the drain bolt, the worse the leakage would be..

Maybe [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir, [MENTION=57344]RohIIT[/MENTION] or [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] can suggest or help better than me.. Also, you have an expert ( [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] ) helping you out already

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Tappets can be reached by removing the tank and right side fairing. You can ask the mech to set the tappets at 0.1mm for both inlet and exhaust using a feeler gauge and not by hand with a plier. If they don't have it, please get one from a hardware shop. Get STANLEY make feeler blades. They cost me 250 odd 2 years ago and you get a lot of blades ranging from 0.02 mm to 10 mm or so.

Please check your battery for charge. The potential difference across the positive and negative terminals should be >= 12.4 volts even when just the ignition key is switched ON. At idling this would go a little higher, but since your bike is not starting, check your battery voltage first by just switching the key ON. Use a multimeter.

Do not let the SVC fellows touch your bike's fuel pump unless all other culprits are ruled out. It's a costly piece at 12k INR and SVC might push for you to change it even if it is working.

If in case, you really have to change the engine internals due to hydrolock/oil depletion, get the following work carried out (will cost some money but will guarantee no headache later):
1. Piston + piston rings.
2. Valve clearance (tappets adjustment). If valves are bent, replace them and then set the clearance.
3. Timing chain replacement.
4. Engine gasket replacement. Ask them to scrub the old gasket completely WITHOUT using a screw driver (they can mildly scrub with a shaving blade) and use some grease over the new gasket prior to fitting it back.
5. Replace all drain bolts (three of them - engine oil, inlet valve, exhaust valve).
6. Replace all O rings - to contain oil seepage. Avoid Castrol in future. Too many fake bottles around.
7. Replace the spark plug and air filter.
8. Spray WD40/Zorrik88 throughout the circuitry because you said your bike remained immersed in water for a while. WD40/Zorrik88 is a water repellent.
9. Use Iftex System G for 2-3 tank fills (1 ml per liter) or 1000 km to clean fuel lines and injectors. it is available at BP fuel bunks.

All the above might cost you 3k to 3.5k including labor at a competent mech (blown up figures).

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Thanks again ,
And sorry I misinformed there was no sound before only oil leak like it won't even drop on ground only it will settle on left side part beside the fairing on the round engine part , and AFAIK they only tightened the ring for solving the problem may be once they changed the O ring but am not sure anyhow after the service it disappears and later oil starts to settle slowly this is the routine am used to . And I can say that oil drain is only few ML
And thAnks for suggesting will reach out to them

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Thanks bro for the detailed explanation will try to understand it fully and implement it

And I called up HH guys , and asked about the update , they gave the number of the supervisor / mechanic and I called him , he says the problem is in the engine and said few parts like pistons, fimming chain etc should be changed and I said not to open it and they agreed , and fuel pump issue is not there I guess thank god

And In your last para u said a list to be done shall I tell these points to the hero mechanic? As they will be doing the repair
And are these to be done while doing the repair or some points can be done after this issue ? Coz in the job card I also complained about the oil leaks issue ?

And the battery is also fine as the digital meter is correctly showing without any blinking and the voltage check will ask these guys to do

They will be opening the engine 2maro ,
Shall I go with the hero guys ? Like if they want to change the parts or shall I take pictures of it and upload in this thread to cross check ?

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[MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION]sharan
Bro I changed the spark plug 6 months before do I still need to change? It was Iridium or IRK can't remember exactly
And air filter need to change
And point 9 is this oil added in petrol tank mixing with petrol right ? For every 1000kms 1ml or full tank 1ml am Confused , I usually only keep 3 litres max that too I refill everyday to commute to office 55kms I ride daily

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

If you don't have a trusted mechanic then it is better to go with the ASC.

Whatever parts I mentioned above are essentially the same as you mentioned with a few additional ones.
Please note that labor charges will be high(er) at an ASC. You can ask them for an estimate with all changes I mentioned above.

Lastly, the reserve capacity in itself is 3 liters. You should maintain that amount all the time, else it will conk out the fuel pump in case of acute shortage.