Engine Update after 1000 Kms of 4th repair (V2)
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Summary of 1st 500 Kms: Engine felt smooth in the higher gears and more grumpy in 1,2. Metallic noise after heavy traffic(super heated engine) persists. Fuel Efficiency: 40kmpl at avg speed of 65Kmph (I ride through low traffic roads). Engine stalls only twice that to during first start of the day and doesn't occur after 100 mts of run.

Summary of 2nd 500kms: Engine became smoother but still grumpy in gears 1 and 2. Metallic noise (which the ASC mechanic says is valve noise common in all bikes) after heavy traffic(super heated engine) persists. No Engine Stalls. Increased my average speed to 70kmph and the fuel economy dropped by 0.5 to 39.5kmpl (I ride through low traffic roads), still good.

After 1000 kms got the engine changed at the ASC

Now, comes the disgusting part of the update:

I was gonna post this update from my office, the next day after the engine oil change. But, in the morning as soon as I started the bike I felt it welcome me with an awkward sound which initially I thought to be body vibe but as I inspected the whole bike I couldn't find any awkward vibration from any body part. Th sound was so rhythmic with the engine that it felt like coming from the engine but didn't increase with throttling. I checked everything which I could in my 40 kms of ride to and fro that office day. The pickup was right, rpm-speed ratio was good. I didn't have any problem whatsoever in speeding upto 100 or any new engine grunt while acceleration. But the noise was such that it couldn't be muffled under wind even over 60kms.

The next day I didn't ride it to my office and today being weekend I took it to the ASC(phoenix motors). He inspected the tappets and stuff. Rubbished the sound as body vibe coming as summation of all the loose panels. I asked him to tighten them which he said have developed internal cracks (I don't see any) and needed replacements. I pushed him to check anything else related to the engine. He checked the engine oil level and to my amazement TOPPED-UP THE OIL WITH 90 GRADE CHAIN OIL from the can in a jiffy without listening to my NOs from behind. He did this thing when the supervisor was beside him. The explanation given was 90 grade oil is thin and the mix would me the engine smoother. I asked him to immediately stop his stuff and discharge my bike.

I came out and rode to a shade. Called @Divya Sharan and informed. He asked me to immediately drain out the oil and get new one without starting it again. I pushed my bike a 200 mts and then there was a steep down of 1kms and then again pushed it to 1Km where I saw three lubricant shops where I couldn't get shell or veedol. Divya asked me to adjust for Castrol Power one 15W30. I was not convinced about the genuinity of the bottle as Divya had already warned me about the fake ones. Might be my foolishness but I parked my bike in-front of a mechanic shop and hired an auto-rikshaw to the nearest HERO ASC (not phoenix).

Nowadays, they don't sell oil bottles and had confined them to one of those oil guns so I had to convince the manager very hard to get oil in a cola bottle along with one of their mechanic. He agreed to this on the condition that I would ride to this ASC immediately and get my bike inspected in regular way.

I don't have it left in me to fight once more with the phoenix motors. Except this sound, the bike seems fine AS OF NOW. So, I would again start going to long rides and also long cherished interstate trips. What must happen, will happen. Will ride IF and until the engine is dead, will escalate to HERO, get it repaired again and sell it off (sadly)... but I can't wait this out anymore!!!

After seeing your posts i am very much concerned about my frnd ZMR V2 , because i suggested him to buy a karizma

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May be the first time problem was company fault. I am not sure whether it was a design fault as there are so many V2 ZMAs on roads and also quite a few ZMRs (Both have same Engine). It could have been a manufacturing defect and that's why the warranty is there for. But after that It was all PHOENIX MOTORS and their care-less attitude. I can write a whole book on Phoneix and endless count Blunders now. Sadly fate had made me go to them time and again forcefully. Everytime I go to the ASC (trust me I might have crossed a half century in an year) I do keep checking the engine sound and behaviour of most of the V2s that have come in for service (they just leave the key in the slot and now I don't care about the staff). I have NOT observed any fault with any of those. So, don't worry too much about the bike and start caring about the work done on it during services and repairs. It can happen with anyone or any brand. I have heard quite a bit about few honda ASCs and their behaviour too.

On an average how long does the clutch cable last? Mine lasted 22.5k kms. Replaced it before the last strand of metal could snap off.

The fluctuations have reduced drastically, but haven't died off completely. Will replace air filter, acc cable and update soon.

I think cables should not be lubed as lubing attracts more dust.

I think cables should not be lubed as lubing attracts more dust.

I think cables should not be lubed as lubing attracts more dust.

Guys need help.... My valves were dead at 36k km. Now I have completed the engine work replaced the valves and engine has started but the problem is it is not starting without choke and it gives very less power the bike can not go above 20 kmph I have tuned the carbs AFR screw but still the problem persists and secondly even when I open up the throttle completely the engine rmps are still not more then 4k

I think cables should not be lubed as lubing attracts more dust.

I've seen [MENTION=29030]Pinaki[/MENTION] sir's post once in other threads advising not to lube the clutch cable.. Don't remember the exact reason..

Sorry didn't get you