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  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by yatinroy View Post
    ok now let me explain you all one more time if i put 12v 60/55 w philips extream vision in my bike then i believe the consumption of current will be twice than 12 v 35/35 w bulb nearly 5.19 Amper and i dont want zmr battery drain out. Because in this bike everything works on battery. and im also afraid of burning of any electrical circuit due to flow of heavy current. Its under 5 years of warranty so i also dont want to lose it. i just want good light on road while driving at night. Do you really think 12v 6 ampere battery of zmr will support 12v 60/55 w bulb xtream vision? It has alternator which can give 232 watt at 5000 rpm and battery can be easily charged. Its just about light i really dont want to go with any hid light. and i dont want to do any upgrade because this bulky bike is ok stand alone with fairing and all.
    Now about replacing bulb what i have found when i open plastic console near its meter. there are bunch of screws tighten over there. i tried different ways to open the bulb socket but failed, there is no space at all where you can pull it out. so if anyone have tired to change the bulb please come with a good and logical answers. so i believe the faring stuff have to be opened to get it replace. its little different from 150cc or 200cc bike. Help me and please come up with a good answer.
    How do you figure 5.19a out of a 6a battery with a 55/60 bulb? I would like to know.

    I'm using the 55/60 Xtreme vision on my ZMA which has a 7ah battery, and also a roots vibrosonic (single) 3.5a horn. Many other users are also using a heftier bulb without any changes in wiring/without relay and not facing problems.
    Also please be certain your electricals are covered under warranty, AFAIK, electricals/wiring are not covered under company warranty. If anyone has clearer information on the same, do pass it on as it'll be beneficial.

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    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by yatinroy View Post
      Guys just one and half month back i bought ZMR but im facing problem with its light its just too low to drive at night. So after doing some research on net i bought philips crystal vision 12v 35/35 for 500 bucks now the problem is how i can replace i tried to it by my self there are so many screws below its faring, its really difficult to figure it out so anyone can assist me with the changing Karizma ZMA bulb.
      Please dont let anyone touch your fairing ...a good road side bike mechanic with good hand skills can change your bulb without any fuss ...

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      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        so exactly you are using philips extream vision H4? because the one wic i have is HS1 12v 35/35 w. so how do you see the difference are you getting good amount of light on street.

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        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by yatinroy View Post
          so exactly you are using philips extream vision H4? because the one wic i have is HS1 12v 35/35 w. so how do you see the difference are you getting good amount of light on street.
          All the information is there within several threads in XBHP, some people have also kindly posted beam shots for comparison.

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          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by yatinroy View Post
            Guys just one and half month back i bought ZMR but im facing problem with its light its just too low to drive at night. So after doing some research on net i bought philips crystal vision 12v 35/35 for 500 bucks now the problem is how i can replace i tried to it by my self there are so many screws below its faring, its really difficult to figure it out so anyone can assist me with the changing Karizma ZMA bulb.
            Actually if you are dexterous enough you need not remove any part of the fairing to replace the bulb. Start from below, disconnect the bulb socket/wires then remove the outer rubber cover, release the bulb/reflector lock, pull out the bulb.

            To put in the bulb reverse the same process.

            Honestly a 35/35w Philips EV won't make a considerable difference to the light throw, if an improvement is what you need then go with a 60/55w Philips EV or Osram NB. The bulb type has to be a H4.

            With regards to your concern about battery drain:

            Originally posted by psr View Post
            The Alternator capacity of ZMA is 188 watts and at 12 Volts it is =15 amps.
            The Alternator capacity of ZMR is 238 watts and at 12 volts it is =19.83 amps.
            The battery is there for self start, and for headlight and brake light supply ..at idle RPM....
            IN ZMR battery is essential for the fuel pump to start working before the bike can be started.
            50/60 Halogen will not tax the battery or electricals of both bikes...
            There is no one more reliable than PSR sir on this thread

            Warranty wont be void for using a 60/55w bulb, the wiring is not covered under warranty unless of a manufacturing defect. Source for this is my local hero showroom.
            Last edited by snehithpereira; 11-25-2013, 01:45 AM.
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            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              thank you so much sir. i'l get 60/55w

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              • Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Well, I tried to change the bulb myself thinking the supplied screw driver will work, but I only ended up rounding the screws. Guess I'm just bad with tools! I don't trust the road side mechanics as I feel they will end up scratching the fairing. So I have instead fitted the H4 osram NB light in my Honda Brio and stuck with stock for ZMR.

                The fuel cap drain is still clogged. I have not managed to clean it. Guess I have ask it during the next service.

                I feel my bike sometimes randomly turning off especially when I downshift. And most times it manages to restart when I let go off the clutch. What does this indicate?

                And my front tire is leaking air badly. Lost nearly 20 units in 2 days. Planning to get it checked at one MRF shop. Divya bhai had suggested slime treatment. Will have to do that.

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                • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by snehithpereira View Post
                  Actually if you are dexterous enough you need not remove any part of the fairing to replace the bulb. Start from below, disconnect the bulb socket/wires then remove the outer rubber cover, release the bulb/reflector lock, pull out the bulb.

                  To put in the bulb reverse the same process.

                  Honestly a 35/35w Philips EV won't make a considerable difference to the light throw, if an improvement is what you need then go with a 60/55w Philips EV or Osram NB. The bulb type has to be a H4.

                  With regards to your concern about battery drain:



                  There is no one more reliable than PSR sir on this thread

                  Warranty wont be void for using a 60/55w bulb, the wiring is not covered under warranty unless of a manufacturing defect. Source for this is my local hero showroom.
                  Thanks for remembering what I had posted ...
                  I would like to make a small change to what I wrote....A friend of mine said that once when his ZMR battery went dead , he could start the bike doing a Push Start in second gear..However the friend's claim need to be verified
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by sarkartheruler View Post
                    Well, I tried to change the bulb myself thinking the supplied screw driver will work, but I only ended up rounding the screws. Guess I'm just bad with tools! I don't trust the road side mechanics as I feel they will end up scratching the fairing. So I have instead fitted the H4 osram NB light in my Honda Brio and stuck with stock for ZMR.

                    The fuel cap drain is still clogged. I have not managed to clean it. Guess I have ask it during the next service.

                    I feel my bike sometimes randomly turning off especially when I downshift. And most times it manages to restart when I let go off the clutch. What does this indicate?

                    And my front tire is leaking air badly. Lost nearly 20 units in 2 days. Planning to get it checked at one MRF shop. Divya bhai had suggested slime treatment. Will have to do that.
                    you dont need any tool to change the bulb ...it can be done by hands its just 5min job ...have replaced twice from local mechanic.. there is nothing to do with faring ..go with a skillful local mechanic ...

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                    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by psr View Post
                      Thanks for remembering what I had posted ...
                      I would like to make a small change to what I wrote....A friend of mine said that once when his ZMR battery went dead , he could start the bike doing a Push Start in second gear..However the friend's claim need to be verified
                      When my battery was dead too I had to push start in second gear. The display would reset when I attempted to start it. Had to push start the bike for two days.

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                      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by psr View Post
                        Thanks for remembering what I had posted ...
                        I would like to make a small change to what I wrote....A friend of mine said that once when his ZMR battery went dead , he could start the bike doing a Push Start in second gear..However the friend's claim need to be verified
                        Well thankfully my battery is still fine and its going to be 3 years now. But while cleaning the bike last to last month, I hadn't fixed the terminals properly and my bike just stopped and the console would reset. I tried push starting in 1st and 2nd. No success. But, asked a guy to push while I sat and engaged 3rd and voila!
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                        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                          When my battery was dead too I had to push start in second gear. The display would reset when I attempted to start it. Had to push start the bike for two days.

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                          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                          Well thankfully my battery is still fine and its going to be 3 years now. But while cleaning the bike last to last month, I hadn't fixed the terminals properly and my bike just stopped and the console would reset. I tried push starting in 1st and 2nd. No success. But, asked a guy to push while I sat and engaged 3rd and voila!
                          Thanks for a Valuable Info and SHARING the same ...Now all ZMR owners can be rest assured that the fuel pump CAN BE driven by the 3 Phase generator and RR unit, and so the bike's reliability factor increases much more...
                          Last edited by psr; 11-25-2013, 09:09 PM.
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                          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by snehithpereira View Post
                            Warranty wont be void for using a 60/55w bulb, the wiring is not covered under warranty unless of a manufacturing defect. Source for this is my local hero showroom.
                            So, u mean to say that it doesn't matter if we use an HID (with a ballast) or Osram/Philips 55w ryt? ARE U SURE??

                            Also, what about the warranty on the other parts? It'll remain as it is or we'll lose the whole bike's warranty alongwith the headlights..
                            Not perfect- Forever Forgiven..

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                            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by red_karizma_zmr View Post
                              So, u mean to say that it doesn't matter if we use an HID (with a ballast) or Osram/Philips 55w ryt? ARE U SURE??

                              Also, what about the warranty on the other parts? It'll remain as it is or we'll lose the whole bike's warranty alongwith the headlights..
                              No your whole bike's warranty wont be effected, however incase of damage to any other part due to the wiring done for HID, technically they could deny warranty on the same.
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                              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by snehithpereira View Post
                                No your whole bike's warranty wont be effected, however incase of damage to any other part due to the wiring done for HID, technically they could deny warranty on the same.
                                Pls answer my 1st question. I want to be reassured. HID (with additional wiring & ballast) & Osram 55w (without any additional wiring) are the same ryt from the warranty POV. Since, wirings aren't covered under warranty.
                                Not perfect- Forever Forgiven..

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