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  • #11701
    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by shivakrish View Post
    hey guys just went past this great Achievement in the Web..!! Does any of our members have clear Information regarding this??


    https://twitter.com/HeroMotoCorp/sta...90505906450432
    Pics seem to be of Leh... which has been done on many bikes before.... will try to google some info
    WARNING!! Objects seen in Mirror are Disappearing Rapidly!!!!!!

    Never be Afraid to Slow Down!!!!

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    • #11702
      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post
      @rreneav1987 @Divya Sharan @psr sir @Rakesh Rok

      Today I went to change the engine oil and get the motul brand.. I was searching for 300 but find it anywhere.. anywaz i am posting this bcos I only rode the bike for 20 kms and the engine was feeling extremely hot.. Never before I felt this much heat from the engine.. so is this bcos of the new oil? and also there is some noice coming from the engine, the shop guy told me that its because of crank.. could someone explain it to me plz.. ?
      If you had used the 20w50, drain it ASAP and fill with a good mineral of 20w40 or 15w40...A w50 when hot is not as thin as a w40 and the increased viscosity is actually offer resistance to the movement of parts inside the Crankcase. For every turn of the crankshaft, the edge of the crank which is blunt, have to hit the oil and go through it...So the thicker the oil the greater the crank has to struggle through it...at higher RPMs the effort increases, which can be seen by way of slower acceleration, and heat....A 10w40 or a 15w40 will do justice to the engine and a w 50 is too thick....
      A 10 w 30 is thin for our climate which is hot( 30 C or above) most of the time...HH had switched to 10w30 in all of their engines, may be for the purpose of better acceleration, FE and easy store maintenance,since one oil is good for all...
      Last edited by psr; 11-15-2013, 08:10 PM.
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • #11703
        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
        Beach please, that's a regular Xbhp sticker . . .

        Is that your kids name above that. . ?

        Coming to the oil department, no much from my side, that's all I know. . . Wait, @B7ACKTHORN can we expect your help here regarding this oil grade. . ?

        Ask them how to maintain it for 500 kms and then change off to a recommended oil grade, use the chart provided by me above to decide which is best for your bike, also if you are considering Shell then that's also good and kinda equivalent to Motul they say, try that out too, I have been using it in my Unicorn from past some time and I am really happy with it, vibs reduced, sound's smooth and butter smooth engine. . .

        Cheers!!!
        Well, since Rak has quoted me, from the users that I've known, w50 makes the bike kinda dull in cold temperatures, once heated it's on par. But like most Honda, w40 is the right grade, and the bike just loves mineral and it can go on and on as long as you keep changing it in the right time.

        Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
        Guys am planning to sell my simota filter which was used for 7k kms and also the hid bulb. If you know anyone or you yourself are interested, then do let
        Try posting an ad in the xBhp ads section, you hopefully will get a good recepetion, though I don't think anyone will go for the AF, but HID might have some prospective buyers.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
        The girl said, 'NO!'


        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


        THE END

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        • #11704
          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by shivakrish View Post
          hey guys just went past this great Achievement in the Web..!! Does any of our members have clear Information regarding this??


          https://twitter.com/HeroMotoCorp/sta...90505906450432
          This is supposedly even ahead of Marismik La. Although there are no specific details/log of this ride on net as yet.
          And I dont know where he could possibly go ahead of Marismik La!! When I asked him this on FB, he didnt respond.

          ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

          Stupid Query, but need answer ;D

          Originally posted by g K View Post
          Isnt the reserve capacity over and above the fuel tank capacity of 15L guys?
          You can ride a Motorcycle any day of the month. ;)

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          • #11705
            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by g K View Post
            Stupid Query, but need answer ;D
            Total capacity = 16L
            Reserve = 4L
            Remaining = 12L.

            Hence, 16L includes reserve!
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • #11706
              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
              Well, since Rak has quoted me, from the users that I've known, w50 makes the bike kinda dull in cold temperatures, once heated it's on par. But like most Honda, w40 is the right grade, and the bike just loves mineral and it can go on and on as long as you keep changing it in the right time.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Thanks sir, [MENTION=63811]Night_Shade[/MENTION] hope you got your answers from Divya as well as here and mine too , so do change it as soon as possible. . .

              Cheers!!!
              Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
              Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
              Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
              Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
              Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

              10 years into riding :D
               Live2Race. . .

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              • #11707
                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                Total capacity = 16L
                Reserve = 4L
                Remaining = 12L.

                Hence, 16L includes reserve!
                N ya... min 3 litres fuel required in tank for Fuel pump to function... (Personal Experience)....
                WARNING!! Objects seen in Mirror are Disappearing Rapidly!!!!!!

                Never be Afraid to Slow Down!!!!

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                • #11708
                  Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                  Thanks sir, @Night_Shade hope you got your answers from Divya as well as here and mine too , so do change it as soon as possible. . .

                  Cheers!!!
                  yup, will drain it trow and get some good 10W40 oil.. [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION] [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir..plz name some good brand of oil you recommend for the kind of climate I have for the next 2 months in Jaipur, Day=normally hot, evening/night-too cold as its winter now

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                  • #11709
                    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                    N ya... min 3 litres fuel required in tank for Fuel pump to function... (Personal Experience)....
                    Not necessary! Depends upon where the pump is located. In the R15/Duke, it maybe within the tank, hence 3-4L. But, it is outside the petrol tank in ZMR.
                    In fact, I had the same doubt until 4-5 months back when psr sir said that we can (read: "can" and not "should") empty even the reserve amount before re-filling.

                    To test it, I ran my bike for 128 kms after it hit reserve. Then I filled up. It had some fuel left though!

                    So, one should not starve the pump often, but ZMR doesn't require X litres of petrol in reserve.

                    ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                    Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post
                    yup, will drain it trow and get some good 10W40 oil..
                    Shell Advance AX7 10w40 Semi Synthetic all year round if you are scared of Rimula R4 15w40.
                    Last edited by Divya Sharan; 11-16-2013, 12:25 PM. Reason: spell check
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • #11710
                      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      Not necessary! Depends upon where the pump is located. In the R15/Duke, it maybe within the tank, hence 3-4L. But, it is outside the petrol tank in ZMR.
                      In fact, I had the same doubt until 4-5 months back when psr sir said that we can (read: "can" and not "should") empty even the reserve amount before re-filling.

                      To test it, I ran my bike for 128 kms after it hit reserve. Then I filled up. It had some fuel left though!

                      So, one should not starve the pump often, but ZMR doesn't require X litres of petrol in reserve.

                      ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----



                      Shell Advance 10w40 Semi Synthetic all year round if you are scared of Rimula R4 15w40.
                      Its not about whether the pump is inside or out... If the fuel is less, the pump needs to work hard to pressurise the fuel. This heats up the pump than normal which is bad if you do it everytime and this is why its recommended that you have some good amount of fuel in the tank always.
                      Its better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "

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                      • #11711
                        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
                        Its not about whether the pump is inside or out... If the fuel is less, the pump needs to work hard to pressurise the fuel. This heats up the pump than normal which is bad if you do it everytime and this is why its recommended that you have some good amount of fuel in the tank always.
                        Precisely why I mentioned one can and not should.
                        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                        • #11712
                          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                          Total capacity = 16L
                          Reserve = 4L
                          Remaining = 12L.

                          Hence, 16L includes reserve!
                          Im sorry my mistake but I was referring to ZMA not ZMR. Sorry again.

                          Hero mentions this for ZMR-
                          • Fuel Tank Capacity 15.3 Litre

                          • Reserve --



                          And this for ZMA-
                          • Fuel Tank Capacity 15 ltrs. (Min)

                          • Reserve 2.0 ltrs. (Usable)


                          So this implies 15L + 2L total 17L right?
                          Last edited by g K; 11-16-2013, 12:32 AM.
                          You can ride a Motorcycle any day of the month. ;)

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                          • #11713
                            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by g K View Post
                            Im sorry my mistake but I was referring to ZMA not ZMR. Sorry again.

                            Hero mentions this for ZMR-
                            • Fuel Tank Capacity 15.3 Litre

                            • Reserve --



                            And this for ZMA-
                            • Fuel Tank Capacity 15 ltrs. (Min)

                            • Reserve 2.0 ltrs. (Usable)


                            So this implies 15L + 2L total 17L right?
                            Total fuel tank capacity includes reserve also. 15 is inclusive of the reserve.
                            Anyone, correct me if wrong.
                            ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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                            • #11714
                              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                              Total fuel tank capacity includes reserve also. 15 is inclusive of the reserve.
                              Anyone, correct me if wrong.
                              Hero website seems to say different. Thus the confusion!
                              You can ride a Motorcycle any day of the month. ;)

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                              • #11715
                                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
                                Its not about whether the pump is inside or out... If the fuel is less, the pump needs to work hard to pressurise the fuel. This heats up the pump than normal which is bad if you do it everytime and this is why its recommended that you have some good amount of fuel in the tank always.
                                This is a wrong perception. A Fuel pump designed to be inside fuel tank, needs the fuel as a heatsink to take care of the heat it develops, whereas a Fuel Pump designed to function outside of Petrol is designed to run relatively cooler, and does not need Petrol to cool it.....The Fuel Pump is under load, ONLY if there is Petrol being pumped around.If there is no petrol, and only air, there is no load on the pump. But the pump may fail, since the motor has NO LOAD and will spin at the highest RPM leading to bearing,brush etc., failure.
                                The greatest load on the pump happens IF there is no Relief valve or return path for petrol ,and pressure builds up in the system, beyond the Pump's capacity, leading to increase in motor current and burn out.
                                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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