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**rreneav1987** · 11-14-2013, 11:48 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Supreeeth View Post

Guys.... i had replied to [MENTION=63811]Night_Shade[/MENTION] s pictures of zapper Q 120... No idea how it got here....

HHahaha.. quote the person bro..

we have lots of people posting so we wont know who that was for ubless you wuote the post

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**g K** · 11-15-2013, 12:16 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Supreeeth View Post

Guys.... i had replied to @Night_Shade s pictures of zapper Q 120... No idea how it got here....

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Hello @Night_Shade

Zapper Q looks great..... wats the price and availability status???

Price he had already mentioned 2150/-

I am still a little apprehensive about getting a 120 section tyre where a 100 is meant to be used, dont know why!

**abhi7013** · 11-15-2013, 02:06 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Reason why zmr is rare is because of its rival p220. It comes at a cheaper price and performance is better than zmr. That's the thinking that majority guys have.

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**sounakray** · 11-15-2013, 02:26 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Reason why zmr is rare is because of its rival p220. It comes at a cheaper price and performance is better than zmr. That's the thinking that majority guys have.

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I agree, Abhi! That'd surely be the biggest reason! It's unfortunate, but true.
But then going by that logic the R15 shouldn't have sold so well either! It's more expensive than the ZMR, has lower performance and fe, and lacks the comfort of the ZMR! Is it just because of its looks? I doubt how many R15 buyers have the eye to actually admire it's frame, suspension, handling capabilities etc.

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**abhi7013** · 11-15-2013, 02:34 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by sounakray View Post

I agree, Abhi! That'd surely be the biggest reason! It's unfortunate, but true.
But then going by that logic the R15 shouldn't have sold so well either! It's more expensive than the ZMR, has lower performance and fe, and lacks the comfort of the ZMR! Is it just because of its looks? I doubt how many R15 buyers have the eye to actually admire it's frame, suspension, handling capabilities etc.

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The brand name bro. And the buyers would atleast know the fact that it's design is similar to the r1. And it being a purely track oriented bike, I guess people liked it. Also 150cc engine with such power would obviously strike as different to people. Maybe this is the reason. Maybe. But rest-assured, zmr is one great bike. Go thoroughly through this thread. You'll get to know its problems. Apart from fuel pump issues for few members I don't think there's anything seriously wrong with the bike.

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**Supreeeth** · 11-15-2013, 09:34 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by g K View Post

Price he had already mentioned 2150/-

I am still a little apprehensive about getting a 120 section tyre where a 100 is meant to be used, dont know why!

I had issues with the 100 section at the later stages especially while cornering.... Now feel a lot comfortable with psd 120

The sad part is I paid 4500/-

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**Supreeeth** · 11-15-2013, 09:36 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

HHahaha.. quote the person bro..

we have lots of people posting so we wont know who that was for ubless you wuote the post

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Okie boss....

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**rreneav1987** · 11-15-2013, 10:32 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Reason why zmr is rare is because of its rival p220. It comes at a cheaper price and performance is better than zmr. That's the thinking that majority guys have.

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Agreed.. the performance is what many people look for in India.. besides.. the cost factor is another reason which made ZMRs sales down.. but at the end.. the ZMR has loads of technology which people won't understand unless they use the bike..

**Divya Sharan** · 11-15-2013, 10:37 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

loads of technology which people won't understand unless they use the bike..

Care to explain? Also, what tech does ZMR have in extra?

I guess we should be a bit rational here.

**rreneav1987** · 11-15-2013, 10:59 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Care to explain? Also, what tech does ZMR have in extra?

I guess we should be a bit rational here.

i don't wanna go too technical about it.. then people will start going OT.. I was just comparing between the P220 and the ZMR

the FI that P220 had was a big time failure.. but ZMR being from Honda has got the Honda technology..

The word "Technology" when compared with the P220 I am talking about is in par..

**Divya Sharan** · 11-15-2013, 01:08 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

i don't wanna go too technical about it.. then people will start going OT.. I was just comparing between the P220 and the ZMR

the FI that P220 had was a big time failure.. but ZMR being from Honda has got the Honda technology..

The word "Technology" when compared with the P220 I am talking about is in par..

Hmm... I want realistic opinion from all owners (ZMR/P220 and others)

Just one thing. FI systems in RTR or P220 were not a failure. They were identical to Bosch systems. They were removed to cut costs. Guys have run over a lac kms on FI 220s bro.
Regarding the ZMR, I love it as a package but still I don't think I'd ever say its loaded with tech compared to other players.

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**abhi7013** · 11-15-2013, 01:32 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Zmr is technologically superior than p220 rite. The one thing that zmr lacks are the automatic indicators. But I find them kinda irritating though. Apart from it, you have sensors in the bike which help a lot. You've got a better Speedo, rtmi, fi and lately I found out the blinker for sensor warnings has codes too. And if you cross 30kmph, the light stops blinking and remains constant. I dunno what's the objective though. In my case, bank angle sensor is missing.

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**rreneav1987** · 11-15-2013, 02:02 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Hmm... I want realistic opinion from all owners (ZMR/P220 and others)

Just one thing. FI systems in RTR or P220 were not a failure. They were identical to Bosch systems. They were removed to cut costs. Guys have run over a lac kms on FI 220s bro.
Regarding the ZMR, I love it as a package but still I don't think I'd ever say its loaded with tech compared to other players.

Damn this server is slow!

dude.. FI of RTR was never a failure.. infact those models are still being sold by TVS.. but the P220 FI was not at all a technologically upto date system.. it was just a normal FI without much sensors.. I remember this as the Service Center guys told me when it was launched...

the P220 FI was never a hit.. the 200 was a big hit.. yes.. 10/1000 bikes would be fine with the FI whereas when I was in Chennai, I found many owners pissed off with their P220 FI.. after that the Carb'd P220 came up and it was a big hit.. cost wise and performance wise.. also the P220 FI was very sluggish and lacked that punch..

Regarding ZMR.. I would consider it a bike loaded with lots of technology which no other bike in India has other than the Centuro from Mahindra

and the CBR... this could be my Opinion but it is a fact..
[MENTION=53321]abhi7013[/MENTION].. even my bike is missing that back angle sensor.. the bike didn't get cut off the 2 times I crashed...

**Divya Sharan** · 11-15-2013, 02:09 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Zmr is technologically superior than p220 rite.

Yes. I feel it is!

if you cross 30kmph, the light stops blinking and remains constant.

What light?

In my case, bank angle sensor is missing.

Impossible. Your bike would NEVER start if that were the case. It simply is not doing its job! The ECU gets parameters for ignition from that sensor.

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Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

even my bike is missing that back angle sensor.. the bike didn't get cut off the 2 times I crashed...

Correction. Its not missing the Bank Angle sensor, its somehow not functioning. My bike did not start when I removed the bank angle sensor.

**rreneav1987** · 11-15-2013, 02:12 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Correction. Its not missing the Bank Angle sensor, its somehow not functioning. My bike did not start when I removed the bank angle sensor.

By the way. When I said missing, I meant it isn't working. I guess they are the ones that are connected to the headlight assembly, right?

How can we get it corrected? I don't remember whether it worked before or not, as I never had a crash before in the past ~4 years on my ZMR

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