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  • Hello PPl, I got a new ZMA R Black yesterday. Completed around 110 Kms. Few things that i wanted to bring attention is that the gear shift is very hard (Up-Shifting & Down-Shifting). Though down-shifting is somewhat convinving, I had been litreally struggling to up-shift the gears. particularly 2nd - 3rd & 4th - 5th. Let me know if this is common in new ZMA. Else suggest me for appropriate action.

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    • Originally posted by elangoas View Post
      Hello PPl, I got a new ZMA R Black yesterday. Completed around 110 Kms. Few things that i wanted to bring attention is that the gear shift is very hard (Up-Shifting & Down-Shifting). Though down-shifting is somewhat convinving, I had been litreally struggling to up-shift the gears. particularly 2nd - 3rd & 4th - 5th. Let me know if this is common in new ZMA. Else suggest me for appropriate action.
      I don't own a ZMA but I have done alot of kms on a ZMA. Gear shifting is one of the best parts of the riding experience, as it has a very smooth gearbox.
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      • Originally posted by elangoas View Post
        Hello PPl, I got a new ZMA R Black yesterday. Completed around 110 Kms. Few things that i wanted to bring attention is that the gear shift is very hard (Up-Shifting & Down-Shifting). Though down-shifting is somewhat convinving, I had been litreally struggling to up-shift the gears. particularly 2nd - 3rd & 4th - 5th. Let me know if this is common in new ZMA. Else suggest me for appropriate action.
        It's common with a new zma. I believe an engine oil change is due at 100 km. Have you done it? also are you following the company recommended procedure for run-in?
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        • Originally posted by v_310 View Post
          It's common with a new zma. I believe an engine oil change is due at 100 km. Have you done it? also are you following the company recommended procedure for run-in?
          The dealer told me that the engine oil is due for change in the first service. 500 - 750 Kms. Regarding the run-in, i am maintaining the bike below 4K RPM.

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          • Hard gear shift is common for new ZMAs. Change the engine oil immediatly. Dont do runin at constant RPMs. Keep varying the RPMs, keep changing the gears and gradually up the RPMs in each gear.
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            • Originally posted by praveenkm View Post
              Hard gear shift is common for new ZMAs. Change the engine oil immediatly. Dont do runin at constant RPMs. Keep varying the RPMs, keep changing the gears and gradually up the RPMs in each gear.
              Any idea when would this ease out. Also can some one tell me after how many kms on the ODO, when can i start cruising between 60 - 90 kmph.
              Last edited by elangoas; 02-23-2009, 02:27 PM.

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              • Originally posted by elangoas View Post
                Any idea when would this ease out. Also can some one tell me after how many kms on the ODO, when can i start cruising between 60 - 90 kmph.
                praveen is right... get it changed immediately - you will notice a difference in the shift! you should be fine after the first service (500 km i think?) for the run in, push up to 4-5k rpm on the 3rd / 4th gears - the important thing is to keep varying the rpm - do not ride at a constant rpm for long!

                60kph cruising should not be an issue after 500 km - take it beyond that only after 1000 km...!!

                I tell you - it's worth the wait main!! cruising at 80 kph (5000 rpm) is the best way to start the day for me
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                • Originally posted by v_310 View Post
                  praveen is right... get it changed immediately - you will notice a difference in the shift! you should be fine after the first service (500 km i think?) for the run in, push up to 4-5k rpm on the 3rd / 4th gears - the important thing is to keep varying the rpm - do not ride at a constant rpm for long!

                  60kph cruising should not be an issue after 500 km - take it beyond that only after 1000 km...!!

                  I tell you - it's worth the wait main!! cruising at 80 kph (5000 rpm) is the best way to start the day for me
                  Thanx Dude. Any specific brand or recommendation for the engine oil to be followed for a smoother gear shift. Also plz mention the quantity as i am yet to collect the service manual from the dealer. Let me know if i can add additives also.

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                  • Originally posted by elangoas View Post
                    Thanx Dude. Any specific brand or recommendation for the engine oil to be followed for a smoother gear shift. Also plz mention the quantity as i am yet to collect the service manual from the dealer. Let me know if i can add additives also.
                    Just stick to HH 10W30 oil. It is really good enough. The drain volume for karizma is 900ml. Make sure they filled the required amount.
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                    • @elangoas, don't worry too much... a long lasting engine is a bit rough during the run in. Engine smoothness, heat and gear shift would settle down for the better. You may want to change the engine oil below 200 KMs and then continue with regular servicing schedule as per the manual.

                      All the best

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                      • i changed the oil from the HH recommended oil to ELF 10W 30
                        gear shifting has never felt this smooth.change the oil and it will get smooth.
                        +1 for what hydbykr said
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                        • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                          @elangoas, don't worry too much... a long lasting engine is a bit rough during the run in. Engine smoothness, heat and gear shift would settle down for the better. You may want to change the engine oil below 200 KMs and then continue with regular servicing schedule as per the manual.

                          All the best
                          KP.. Oil suggestions for the 100km change please. I don't wanna pick the wrong brand like i did for my Uni
                          Im expecting my Zma sometime this week. Will be nagging the dealer on an hourly basis if need be
                          Last edited by MavericK46; 02-23-2009, 05:48 PM.
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                          • ^^^ buy a pack of HH oil from the market and use it.

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                            • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                              @elangoas, don't worry too much... a long lasting engine is a bit rough during the run in. Engine smoothness, heat and gear shift would settle down for the better. You may want to change the engine oil below 200 KMs and then continue with regular servicing schedule as per the manual.

                              All the best
                              Hyd Biker, Thanx for all your inputs. I will try changing the engine oil & see if the gear shifts improves. But this is not acceptable from a renowed bike maker like HH. Moreover this is a Honda prodict. Uni & Gladi does the gear shifts brillantly when they are just out of factory. I hope this is one of the things which makes the bike desirable.

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                              • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                                ^^^ buy a pack of HH oil from the market and use it.
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                                Will buy a pack from the dealer himself when i take delivery. Are 900ml packs available though..?
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