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  • Originally posted by psr View Post
    Your plug shows that you are running slightly rich..Turn the AFR screw HALF turn CLOCKWISE to make the AFR slightly less rich.
    Same reason for the black color on the threads too?

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    • Originally posted by harishsangwan View Post
      Same reason for the black color on the threads too?
      I am not sure..because even on bikes running super lean with spark plugs looking like the whites of your eyes, the outer ring always had a black coating...even in my ZMA which i use for not only riding every day but to carry out experiments...I had always found that irrespective of the plug center color, the outer metal edge always had a coat of black..I suspect some amount of oil do leak through stem seal and get into the chamber and gets burnt...This is seen on a true new ZMA with only 20 Kms on ODO to my ZMA with 23 K Kms on ODO...I am still studying and have no conclusive result..
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      • @psr sir:

        I bought my second hand zma 3 months back. Right from day 1 I am having this problem with the self starter. Sometimes she just fires up(mostly after running for sometime). But most of the times I get a keech keech sound and she doesn't start up. So I ll have to do a kick start. During this process the trip meter and clock also gets reset. First one mech told the relay would ve gone so replaced it but no difference. Yesterday another trusted mech removed all the parts and told the rotor is gone. Have to replace it and he quoted 4000 bucks! What could be the problem? Then the kicker too is a bit tight and goes in steps. But I have no problem in starting it. You just have to give one sharp tight kick.
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        • Originally posted by psr View Post
          Page 598 posts 5974 ,5977...Check your charging and battery condition...A battery with low charge or low charge retentivity will cause resetting of trip and clock, when engine is cranked with self start.
          Thanx psr for your quick reply . .I'll check the air-screw position this weekend(well , I know it just takes a minute , but if I have to change the settings and check the performance , it takes more time-hence the weekend)
          About the battery , I think charge retentivity is OK since the H/L is bright with a very slight dimming when the turn indicators are on ( 20W + 20W + 3W extra drawn) at low speed.I think that cranking twice within 5 to 10 seconds does it .Will check tomorrow .
          Today is sunny, and after a 3 km ride , I tried slow riding.I could go as low as 26 kmph in 5th gear without stalling...wow !
          I am searching for LED bulbs as replacement for the tail light and turn indicators. They are not available at Kannur (afaik).So if any one knows some dealer who would courier them to me , please give me details.
          Thanx.
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          • Originally posted by MAXzma View Post
            @psr sir:

            I bought my second hand zma 3 months back. Right from day 1 I am having this problem with the self starter. Sometimes she just fires up(mostly after running for sometime). But most of the times I get a keech keech sound and she doesn't start up. So I ll have to do a kick start. During this process the trip meter and clock also gets reset. First one mech told the relay would ve gone so replaced it but no difference. Yesterday another trusted mech removed all the parts and told the rotor is gone. Have to replace it and he quoted 4000 bucks! What could be the problem? Then the kicker too is a bit tight and goes in steps. But I have no problem in starting it. You just have to give one sharp tight kick.
            If your engine doesn't turn when you press the starter , then 3 things you must check are (according to my grey mush) battery , relay , starter. By the way , does your neutral indicator dim fully when you press the starter button ?
            Last edited by acs1207; 06-23-2011, 05:46 PM. Reason: missed to ask something.
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            • Black on Plug base , +1 , seen on lot of zma's . DUnno y
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              • Originally posted by Vishakh View Post
                Guys the second screw on the front visor of my bike is loose and not engaging properly when i tried to tight it. i couldnt access it from the inside as the instrument panel is blocking the way any ways to tight it up?
                If you can take the screw out , then use a thread and wind on the screw thread's full length.Then put the screw in and tighten it.
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                • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                  So 4 turns is slightly rich?
                  4 turns will be slightly leaner than 3.5 turns.
                  Since it's misleading , I'm editing it- Above said was true for my RX100 , but not for the ZMA R .Here 4 turns is richer .
                  Edited on 07/07/2011
                  Last edited by acs1207; 07-07-2011, 09:22 AM.
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                  • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                    If your engine doesn't turn when you press the starter , then 3 things you must check are (according to my grey mush) battery , relay , starter. By the way , does your neutral indicator dim fully when you press the starter button ?

                    +1 for the battery because i had the same problem when my battery was partially dead. Check your battery terminal for corrosion,loose connection and check battery condition.

                    Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                    4 turns will be slightly leaner than 3.5 turns.
                    I mean Anti-Clock wise turns.

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                    • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                      +1 for the battery because i had the same problem when my battery was partially dead. Check your battery terminal for corrosion,loose connection and check battery condition.



                      I mean Anti-Clock wise turns.
                      4 turns anti-clockwise lets in more air than 3.5 turns - was so in my RX 100 eons ago.I suppose the principle is the same.It's not - in RX100 , it was an air screw ; in ZMA R it's a fuel screw. The screw , when tightened , closes a path through which air (in the case of ZMA R , it's fuel ) is supplied for idling and slow RPM engine speeds. So when loosening the screw , you are opening the path up little by little. There is no fixed increment by which you have to loosen it . If you think 3.5 is too rich (means good pickup/low mileage) and 4 is too lean (slow pickup and no increase in mileage proportionately) then you can try it at 3.75.
                      I hope I'm right and if not please someone correct me so that Aneesh@4GHz and I can get the correct idea.
                      Thanx.
                      Hav learned something from this forum . So am editing the answer I gave before , on 07/07/2011
                      Last edited by acs1207; 07-07-2011, 09:25 AM. Reason: wrong answer!
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                      • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                        4 turns anti clockwise from tight.Have to do it myself this weekend.
                        Yes,Tight it max in clockwise direction and turn it 4 times anti clock wise direction,If you want more Fe,try 3.5 anti clockwise turns.

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                        • Originally posted by psr View Post
                          You had adjusted the AFR for cold start to 4 turns isn't it ? now turn the AFR screw clockwise by half turn and your FE will be better...talk to Aneesh and he will be able to help in this regard.

                          This is psr sirs post... so i guess that means
                          Clockwise - Lean
                          And
                          AntiClockwise - Rich.
                          Correct me if im wrong...


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                          • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                            4 turns anti-clockwise lets in more air than 3.5 turns
                            More AIR of FUEL?
                            Guess its FUEL,NOt AIR.
                            PSR sir,please help us.


                            Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                            This is psr sirs post... so i guess that means
                            Clockwise - Lean
                            And
                            AntiClockwise - Rich.
                            Correct me if im wrong...
                            According to my knowledge,you are correct.
                            Last edited by Aneesh@4GHz; 06-23-2011, 09:42 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                              More AIR of FUEL?
                              Guess its FUEL,NOt AIR.
                              PSR sir,please help us.
                              Heres what Mr. 'psr' mentioned earlier:

                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              Normally for Karizma the AFR adjusting screw is set 4 full turns(360 degrees) anticlockwise after turning it GENTLY fully clockwise till it stops.
                              Actual Settings are + or- 1 turn.
                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              Apply a little 2t or brake fluid on the screw if it is tight to turn. Turning it clockwise make the AFR lean. and turning it anti-clockwise make it rich..

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                              • Originally posted by psr View Post
                                Turning it clockwise make the AFR lean. and turning it anti-clockwise make it rich..
                                So its fuel right?

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