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  • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Definitely 2stroke!!!

    Bro try turning to 4 turns setup.
    And if still problem presists then try changing your aifilter.
    If still problem presists then check fuel line,
    Any one of the above is surely the culprit.

    And did you notice any change in your exhaust note???
    ??definitely 2 stroke???
    Never had such an issue with myu RX100 all the years I had her . Even in 4th gear @ 20kmph , if I wring the throttle , there was no hiccup , only the acceleration was slow till maybe 40 kmph. then the surge was intoxicating ! Boy...I miss her!!
    Well , I was running on 2nd oversize piston , needle one cut leaner and airscrew stock + or - 1/2 to 3/4 as and when required. At that setting she never gave me mileage above 35 or below 30 .
    Feeling a bit nostalgic now , speaking abt RX100.
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    • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
      ??definitely 2 stroke???
      Never had such an issue with myu RX100 all the years I had her . Even in 4th gear @ 20kmph , if I wring the throttle , there was no hiccup , only the acceleration was slow till maybe 40 kmph. then the surge was intoxicating ! Boy...I miss her!!
      Well , I was running on 2nd oversize piston , needle one cut leaner and airscrew stock + or - 1/2 to 3/4 as and when required. At that setting she never gave me mileage above 35 or below 30 .
      Feeling a bit nostalgic now , speaking abt RX100.

      Sorry, never meant any offense. Its just that i had this problem with my kiney after tuning it for mileage, If i rip her she'l get hickups somewhere between 90-95kmph... And yeah 2strokes are intoxicating. Especially RD350's.
      Motorcycling Experience:
      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
      Adios Comrades!
      A.P. 2018

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      • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
        Sorry, never meant any offense. Its just that i had this problem with my kiney after tuning it for mileage, If i rip her she'l get hickups somewhere between 90-95kmph... And yeah 2strokes are intoxicating. Especially RD350's.
        Kiney? Wasnt it 4 stroke?
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        • Guys,This is Karizma/Karizma-R Ownership Experience Thread.Kindly post your 2-Stroke discussions at 2-Stroke Thread.

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          • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
            Kiney? Wasnt it 4 stroke?

            Na purebreed kinetic 2stroke 110cc..
            Motorcycling Experience:
            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
            Adios Comrades!
            A.P. 2018

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            • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
              Guys,This is Karizma/Karizma-R Ownership Experience Thread.Kindly post your 2-Stroke discussions at 2-Stroke Thread.
              Sorry,, And thanks for the reminder.... Accidentaly ventured to 2stroke when i heard about the hickup problem and the rests just pure nostalgia...

              BTW i started a kiney thread and they didnt approv it... Why?????(Sorry again offtopic.. Aneesh pm me the answer)
              Last edited by ashwinprakas; 06-28-2011, 10:39 AM.
              Motorcycling Experience:
              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
              Adios Comrades!
              A.P. 2018

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              • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                No sir, Am least concerned about FE, heck my 10year old kiney gives me 8kmpl...What say???

                What i meant to say was... Turning AFR also makes it rich just like hole methode.. So cant we like, you know, bring the hole methode's performance by tuning AFR alone.. Since both of them identicaly produces rich mix? Or is there something more to this than meets the eye(my eye... sorry for being a noob )...
                They are worlds apart...changing AFR is a static one and will work from 1 k to 3 K RPM..Hole in the slide is a dynamic one , where the response of the throttle slide to vacuum in venturi is enhanced ,and works from 1 k to WOT.
                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                • Originally posted by harishsangwan View Post
                  Check for oil leaks and also have a look at your air filter. I had the issue resolved after I fixed the oil leaks on my bike and changed my dirt clogged air filter.
                  There are no such visible oil leaks around, so it may be due to clogged air filter, if that is causing so.

                  Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                  So you were running very rich.

                  Your mileage will increase by a high margin for sure.
                  You will feel hiccups as you were running very rich before. so 3 anticlockwise turns means a bit lean,That's why you feels hiccups @ higher rpms,i have the same problem before tuning AFR screw,after setting it to 4 turns,now engine is smooth till 8k rpm,dont want to push more than that.

                  Also as harishsangwan said,check airfilter,if clogged,replace the filter,its 205rs.
                  Yup.. Very rich I must say. But didn't find any considerable difference in acceleration or throttle response when turning back lean. Is it due to bad tuning with idle rpm and all ????
                  As of now, I'll check my FE's with the current settings and when I'll get a settled FE then look into for the hiccup issue if it's due to the AFR tuning (will make quarter turn or even half and check for the FE's and hiccups)

                  Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                  Definitely 2stroke!!!
                  Bro try turning to 4 turns setup.
                  And if still problem presists then try changing your aifilter.
                  If still problem presists then check fuel line,
                  Any one of the above is surely the culprit.

                  And did you notice any change in your exhaust note???
                  Will nearing to the 4 turns setup once I get a settled FE.
                  There wasn't any considerable difference in exhaust note but when I was warming up my bike after AFR tuning, it gave hiccups/'puk-puk' sound from the exhaust when I was giving constant throttle(to 3k rpm) to warm the bike.
                  I think that is due to the hiccup issue. Is that case here ?


                  Guys, can you help out for the steps for checking the clogging of air filter and cleaning too..
                  Just went for small ride this morning, didn't ripped this time. It was going good but little bit rpm hovering when cold.
                  Thanks psr sir for the learning on AFR.

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                  • Originally posted by psr View Post
                    They are worlds apart...changing AFR is a static one and will work from 1 k to 3 K RPM..Hole in the slide is a dynamic one , where the response of the throttle slide to vacuum in venturi is enhanced ,and works from 1 k to WOT.

                    Hmmm... I see...
                    Anyways am up for it.
                    Will do it when i finish run-in or when theres a detailed DIY guide for zma(Having you in mind)... Whichever comes first..
                    Motorcycling Experience:
                    2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                    The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                    Adios Comrades!
                    A.P. 2018

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                    • Originally posted by kariznin View Post
                      Thanks psr sir for the learning on AFR.
                      Glad to be of help..also check the float bowl breather tube.. if it is not fixed on the carb then engine will hesitate at lower RPMs.It is on the gear shifter side and you have to remove the side panel to see it clearly.
                      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                      • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                        Hmmm... I see...
                        Anyways am up for it.
                        Will do it when i finish run-in or when theres a detailed DIY guide for zma(Having you in mind)... Whichever comes first..
                        Once you do it, even if you get only 20 Km FE you will not go back to stock.
                        The difference in engine breathing and response will keep you hooked..But if you are a sane rider who does not go over 60 Kmph and not likely to ride the Highway..don't do it...it is of no use for you.
                        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                        • Originally posted by psr View Post
                          Glad to be of help..also check the float bowl breather tube.. if it is not fixed on the carb then engine will hesitate at lower RPMs.It is on the gear shifter side and you have to remove the side panel to see it clearly.
                          Checked that earlier but without removing the side panel when prompted by Aneesh for the same. Will do that again in the evening after removing the side panel but as you said engine will hesitate on lower rpms if it's not in place instead I was getting the problem on higher rpms when accelerating.
                          Last edited by kariznin; 06-28-2011, 11:54 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by kariznin View Post
                            Checked that earlier but without removing the side panel when prompted by Aneesh for the same. Will do that again in the evening after removing the side panel but as you said engine will hesitate on lower rpms if it's not in place instead I was getting the problem on higher rpms when accelerating.
                            check your Air filter,...if it is dark in color change it.also check the rubber hose connecting air filter box to carb, for improper or loose fitment and air leak.
                            check for free play in choke and that it returns to rest( O) freely.You can do this check by putting only light pressure on choke lever and see if you get 10mm of easy movement to and fro ie., it moves freely without any tension for 10 mm.
                            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                            • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                              BTW i started a kiney thread and they didnt approv it... Why?????(Sorry again offtopic.. Aneesh pm me the answer)
                              A 2-Stroke Thread is already opened,So you have to post it there.

                              Originally posted by kariznin View Post
                              But didn't find any considerable difference in acceleration or throttle response when turning back lean. Is it due to bad tuning with idle rpm and all ????
                              You will feel it once you rev it to higher rpm.

                              Originally posted by kariznin View Post
                              as you said engine will hesitate on lower rpms if it's not in place instead I was getting the problem on higher rpms when accelerating.
                              It is because of lean mixture.Try it after 4 AFR screw turns and feel the difference.

                              Guys, can you help out for the steps for checking the clogging of air filter and cleaning too..
                              A picture can teach you more than words,See this pic of my airfilter, New one is the yellow colored one and brown is a clogged airfilter.




                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              Once you do it, even if you get only 20 Km FE you will not go back to stock.
                              +1^^

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                              • Originally posted by psr View Post
                                Once you do it, even if you get only 20 Km FE you will not go back to stock.
                                The difference in engine breathing and response will keep you hooked..But if you are a sane rider who does not go over 60 Kmph and not likely to ride the Highway..don't do it...it is of no use for you.

                                Have a look at my signature sir, I dont ride for the purpose of commuting I ride to "RIDE", plus am a student, so my parents'll have to take care of the bill...

                                One day after I graduate and settle, am planning to give mr.joel a visit. But thats for later...
                                Motorcycling Experience:
                                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                                The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                                Adios Comrades!
                                A.P. 2018

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