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**Aneesh@4GHz** · 06-27-2011, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post

May be something related to cam tension-er?

May be,PSR sir please respond.

**abhash** · 06-27-2011, 09:31 PM

@psr

after running my bike on 3.5 turn setting for 200+ kms my bike takes longer to warmup in the morning, although she fires up w\o choke @ 1100rpm i experience jerks for first 1-2 kms as if engine is going to shutdown when i twist the throttle

i warm up the engine for 3-4 mins.

the ambients are ~28C, do you suggest increasing the AFR by half turn or should i increase the idle rpm??if yes by how much

thnx

**krUnIzZlE** · 06-27-2011, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

That's cool,Let us know the price of each part you replaced.

Ride Safe.

Yup,Ill upload my bill, i have been told that i have to go give my bike on next monday (4, July 2011) cuz all the parts will be here by then..... all my body panels are cracked or scratched really bad, and im going to get the ZMR front mudguard...

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 06-27-2011, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by krUnIzZlE View Post

Yup,Ill upload my bill, i have been told that i have to go give my bike on next monday, (4, July 2011) and it will take maybe 5 days because the parts will be here by then..... all my body panels are cracked or scratched really bad, and im going to get the ZMR front mudguard...

ZMR front fender is nearly 850rs. BTW are you going to take your bike to svc and keep the bike there till the spares come?

**selvin rebz** · 06-27-2011, 10:13 PM

[QUOTE=selvin rebz;658410]here they are
20110627 170213.mp3
20110627 170549.mp3
20110627 170445.mp3

m rilli worried ........

help!!!!!!

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 06-27-2011, 10:30 PM

Bro dont worry,wait for psr's reply,We all are confused. We will help you.

**psr** · 06-27-2011, 10:48 PM

[QUOTE=selvin rebz;658511]

Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post

here they are
20110627 170213.mp3
20110627 170549.mp3
20110627 170445.mp3

m rilli worried ........

help!!!!!!

Thanks for uploading the sounds....sounds more like a very loose tappet setting....I also suspect the Timing Chain, tension-er and Cam shaft...The first recording gives a more clear sound over different RPM range...so my order of doubt is
1. very loose tappet setting
2. timing chain loose..
3. timing chain tensioner bad
4. Cam defective...remote chance.
I am saying this because bike starts and idles, and also revs without additional sound..the present sound of clicking increases as you rev the bike, in frequency and no new sound seem to come to indicate further problem..
Please park bike on main stand ..take out the oil dip stick AND check for oil level and color and post..

**psr** · 06-27-2011, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by abhash View Post

@psr

after running my bike on 3.5 turn setting for 200+ kms my bike takes longer to warmup in the morning, although she fires up w\o choke @ 1100rpm i experience jerks for first 1-2 kms as if engine is going to shutdown when i twist the throttle

i warm up the engine for 3-4 mins.

the ambients are ~28C, do you suggest increasing the AFR by half turn or should i increase the idle rpm??if yes by how much

thnx

cold hesitation is due to lean AFR...like you said you can put up with it for the sake of FE or do a half turn anticlockwise to richen AFR and see...

**selvin rebz** · 06-27-2011, 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=psr;658533]

Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post

Thanks for uploading the sounds....sounds more like a very loose tappet setting....I also suspect the Timing Chain, tension-er and Cam shaft...The first recording gives a more clear sound over different RPM range...so my order of doubt is
1. very loose tappet setting
2. timing chain loose..
3. timing chain tensioner bad
4. Cam defective...remote chance.
I am saying this because bike starts and idles, and also revs without additional sound..the present sound of clicking increases as you rev the bike, in frequency and no new sound seem to come to indicate further problem..
Please park bike on main stand ..take out the oil dip stick AND check for oil level and color and post..

checked the oil level ,its max and the colour is same as it is ,i mean it hasnt turned black, when i stop engine like say for 1 hour and then start , these sound doesnt appear, it starts again after say 10kms long drive. what shall i do now??

**psr** · 06-27-2011, 11:13 PM

[QUOTE=selvin rebz;658544]

Originally posted by psr View Post

checked the oil level ,its max and the colour is same as it is ,i mean it hasnt turned black, when i stop engine like say for 1 hour and then start , these sound doesnt appear, i start after say 10kms long drive. what shall i do now??

If you listen to the second recording of yours..you can clearly hear the ticking sound of tappet..
Take it to SVC and sit on their neck..Give a written complaint and do complain to the HH All India Service manager on this....Don't keep quiet.You have paid hard earned money and they have to give you good service, and replace defective parts in warranty.
If you had already approached the SVC what was their observation ?

**selvin rebz** · 06-27-2011, 11:19 PM

[QUOTE=psr;658550]

Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post

If you listen to the second recording of yours..you can clearly hear the ticking sound of tappet..
Take it to SVC and sit on their neck..Give a written complaint and do complain to the HH All India Service manager on this....Don't keep quiet.You have paid hard earned money and they have to give you good service, and replace defective parts in warranty.
If you had already approached the SVC what was their observation ?

the thing is these sound started to appear after my first service.
dont know what these idiot guys did to my bike??
i havent been there since first service ,i think its time approach but i am really worried coz they will keep my bike with them and screw it more... and make it worst then before.

third recording as well has clear indications am i right??

**psr** · 06-27-2011, 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=selvin rebz;658554]

Originally posted by psr View Post

the thing is these sound started to appear after my first service.
dont know what these idiot guys did to my bike??
i havent been there since first service ,i think its time approach but i am really worried coz they will keep my bike with them and screw it more... and make it worst then before

If the SVC had screwed your bike then they very well do something about it.
Do not delay the visit to SVC and remember to give written complaint and also shoot a mail to the All India Service Manager

**selvin rebz** · 06-27-2011, 11:28 PM

[QUOTE=psr;658561]

Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post

If the SVC had screwed your bike then they very well do something about it.
Do not delay the visit to SVC and remember to give written complaint and also shoot a mail to the All India Service Manager

service manager?? how to contact him?? do you have his email id ? or any shall i call the helpline number ?

**ashwinprakas** · 06-27-2011, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Mr.Sriram faced the problem of engine stopping when he decelerated from speed and stopped...his idle was 1,000 RPM cold, so this was raised to 1,200 and now he does not face any problems.

Oh! Oops guess its my misunderstanding

... Engine turning off while quickly deaccelerating, hehe.. Reminds me of my 2stroke days....

**ashwinprakas** · 06-27-2011, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

@Ashwinprakas

I was not at all complaining on the mileage return from my bike, I don't recollecting posting any. I'm sorry if your school of thoughts meant discuss means complaining.

Sorry bro, that was just a comment.

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