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  • Originally posted by psr View Post
    Setting AFR screw to 2.5 turns will not damage plug in short runs...but engine will run hot with less pickup,and perennial starting problem..since FE was not satisfactory for you i had suggested this..as i am doubtful of your Air Filter health...with a clogged air filter even with 2.5 turns the bike will run rich.
    So first check and ensure that the air filter is in good condition,before adjusting AFR.
    @psr sir
    my bike is just 3 months old and my filter is in perfect condition.
    i have already adjusted AFR on 2.5 turns so shall i proceed with same settings or change them?
    and i dont do long runs with bike ,max 15 kms long run at as stretch. so will it damage the plug or engine?

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    • Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post
      @psr sir
      my bike is just 3 months old and my filter is in perfect condition.
      i have already adjusted AFR on 2.5 turns so shall i proceed with same settings or change them?
      and i dont do long runs with bike ,max 15 kms long run at as stretch. so will it damage the plug or engine?
      An engine run slightly rich will have petrol droplets to cool the bore, and hence the engine runs cooler and have better life....So try 3 turns ,as 2.5 is a bit too lean.
      I am running my bike at 4 turns, beside mods to carb to run it rich throughout the RPM range....It is on stock Jets only.
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • Originally posted by psr View Post
        Your Air filter looks acceptable.So if you are getting low FE at 3 turns first to check will be plug to know what is happening inside chamber. If plug is white, then suspect petrol bunk ...change to another reputed vendor and see...the oil in the air box is from the engine crank case breather and is normal.
        Sir, I started my bike this morning and the fuel knob on the normal side. It started in just one kick, I warmed the bike for 2mins and take it for a small ride of 5-6Kms and it ran good.
        Why is it behaving unusual, sometimes it starts normal and sometimes it doesn't. Last night it didn't started at once, was it due to I removed the plug wire and then plugged it again, so may it took time to settle??
        Regarding the bunk, I am filling from that bunk from last 6yrs in my ZMA, it is the company owned BP bunk and using that bunk for filling in my Ninja too, it is giving some fine FE's but ZMA is returning FE lower than my Ninja.

        I think my ZMA is angry with me ,since when I got my Ninja.

        Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
        Please see post # 5177 from psr regarding oil in air filter box.
        Thanks .. Got the necessary info from that.

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        • Originally posted by prashk View Post
          Last years??!!! Clear it ASAP please. Btw Amit, what tires are you using and where did you get it from (supposedly from B'lore?). I roamed around JC road today asking for M45 3*18 and 4*18 for the front and rear. Tried about 4 shops, and none had them in stock. Plus, some of them said Michelin doesn't make tires of those sizes, I quietly left. Please recommend the ones which you frequent.
          I am currently running on a wet road setup,using M45 TT as front and PSD TL as rear.You can get both in JC road, check with tirumala .Its better if you buy the PSD from a authentic dealer,there is one near jayadeva flyover.
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          • Boric acid I.P in engine oil

            Hey guys,
            after a lot of reading and going through different articles, i decided to try on the boric acid+engine oil mix in my Zma.
            i put in 30 grams of boric acid in the oil, mixing it with a little bit of acetone in a bottle, and poured it in...
            I operated the kick a few times so that the powder could mix well, then i thumbed the self.

            the first thing i noticed:

            Usually my bike idles at a little under 1100 RPM, and stalls for 1-2 times in the morning.
            when i started the engine, to my surprise, the engine started idling at 1300 RPM..

            As i know PSR has already tried this out, could you possibly shed some light on this topic.

            -Pronoy.
            Last edited by pronoy_banerjee; 07-04-2011, 02:03 PM. Reason: correction


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            • Originally posted by kariznin View Post
              Sir, I started my bike this morning and the fuel knob on the normal side. It started in just one kick, I warmed the bike for 2mins and take it for a small ride of 5-6Kms and it ran good.
              Why is it behaving unusual, sometimes it starts normal and sometimes it doesn't. Last night it didn't started at once, was it due to I removed the plug wire and then plugged it again, so may it took time to settle??
              Whenever the spark plug, carburetor,or the inlet rubber hose between the air filter and carb., is removed and put back, the residual petrol vapor is lost and bike takes some time to start..I had experienced the same too..
              Regarding the bunk, I am filling from that bunk from last 6yrs in my ZMA, it is the company owned BP bunk and using that bunk for filling in my Ninja too, it is giving some fine FE's
              Ok so petrol bunk short charging you is also ruled out
              but ZMA is returning FE lower than my Ninja.

              I think my ZMA is angry with me ,since when I got my Ninja.
              Ha ha ha good imagination...Ninja is a bike perfected over the years for performance and reliability.It did not become,reliable and the best seller overnight, but through many years of problems ,feed back and Designers understanding their mistake, and correcting them.
              The Ninja is a TWIN CYLINDER high compression injected bike. so it's overall better than ZMA, and no comparison is possible.



              Thanks .. Got the necessary info from that.
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              • Originally posted by pronoy_banerjee View Post
                Usually my bike idles at a little under 1100 RPM, and stalls for 1-2 times in the morning.
                when i started the engine, to my surprise, the engine started idling at 1300 RPM..

                As i know PSR has already tried this out, could you possibly shed some light on this topic.

                -Pronoy.
                Pronoy try not to use Acetone for mix and pouring in the engine oil. Acetone is not kind to plastic and rubber parts..This is just to avoid a variable, though, so far no adverse effect reported. try mixing Boric acid in 2 T.
                Did you ride the bike for 50 kms after adding the mix otherwise it will settle down as a sediment.
                The boric acid in the presence of water Vapor turns to boric oxide and forms cls bonds on to the surface of the metal parts...
                there are two things happening here...
                1. there is a filling up of minor scratches and pits in all the areas,closing tolerances, and increasing compression,
                2. a glass like coating which gives a slippery surface forms, improving lube and reducing friction...
                The oil should not be drained for at least 1,000 kms for the full effect to take place.
                There will be a noticeable effect after the first 20 to 40 Kms, then near 500 kms and then near 1,000 kms.
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                • Originally posted by psr View Post
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                  I am not comparing the bikes, just comparing the FE's of the bikes as Ninja is high revving machine and much powerful than ZMA than too is returning better FE's than ZMA when I shifting at around 11k rpm and above.
                  Sir, I am really getting tensed for my ZMA as just got call from brother he told me that whenever he stopped the bike it just stalled, each time he has to rev the bike during idling.
                  Please help sir, things going nowhere as I can't rectify the issue with my bike.

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                  • Originally posted by kariznin View Post
                    I am not comparing the bikes, just comparing the FE's of the bikes as Ninja is high revving machine and much powerful than ZMA than too is returning better FE's than ZMA when I shifting at around 11k rpm and above.
                    Sir, I am really getting tensed for my ZMA as just got call from brother he told me that whenever he stopped the bike it just stalled, each time he has to rev the bike during idling.
                    Please help sir, things going nowhere as I can't rectify the issue with my bike.
                    set your COLD idle RPM to 1,200 (hot will be 1,500)...Since the AFR is now adjusted and it is not lean anymore , whenever you close throttle from higher rpm,momentarily the engine will run rich..leading to lowering of RPM.
                    Nothing to worry, and not an issue.
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • Originally posted by psr View Post
                      set your COLD idle RPM to 1,200 (hot will be 1,500)...Since the AFR is now adjusted and it is not lean anymore , whenever you close throttle from higher rpm,momentarily the engine will run rich..leading to lowering of RPM.
                      Nothing to worry, and not an issue.
                      Sir, I already set my idle rpm to 1200 when I set the AFR to 3 turns anti-clockwise from where it locks clockwise.

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                      • Originally posted by psr View Post
                        If you meant the nail polish remover ,make sure it is transparent and does not have additives like protein to enrich finger nails etc.
                        Will do , psr.
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                        • Did a short trip to south KA on ZMA and returned today. It performed exceptionally well throughout 1406 kms round trip. Checked the engine oil, Motul engine oil 3000 4T Plus is still good after doing 3 digit speeds most of the times during the ride. No viberations, no braking issues, no starting problem and no breakdown!
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                          • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                            Did a short trip to south KA on ZMA and returned today. It performed exceptionally well throughout 1406 kms round trip. Checked the engine oil, Motul engine oil 3000 4T Plus is still good after doing 3 digit speeds most of the times during the ride. No viberations, no braking issues, no starting problem and no breakdown!
                            Nice! When my Servo 4T Multigrade is holding good for all the touring I'm doing why won't the Motul.. What all places you guys rode to?
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                            • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                              Did a short trip to south KA on ZMA and returned today. It performed exceptionally well throughout 1406 kms round trip. Checked the engine oil, Motul engine oil 3000 4T Plus is still good after doing 3 digit speeds most of the times during the ride. No viberations, no braking issues, no starting problem and no breakdown!
                              Congrats on an incident free ride,and glad you enjoyed it.So after 1400 kms Motul mineral still looks good,like new.Since ZMA has a time proven engine,..... reliability is to be expected.
                              Do share pictures and the experience.
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                              • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                                Did a short trip to south KA on ZMA and returned today. It performed exceptionally well throughout 1406 kms round trip. Checked the engine oil, Motul engine oil 3000 4T Plus is still good after doing 3 digit speeds most of the times during the ride. No viberations, no braking issues, no starting problem and no breakdown!
                                So 1400kms is short...is it
                                You have just started exploring the bike, You will fall in love with it everyday again and again as you ride more.Its capabilities touch the sky provided you have the urge to see the stars
                                Originally posted by MAXzma View Post
                                Nice! When my Servo 4T Multigrade is holding good for all the touring I'm doing why won't the Motul.. What all places you guys rode to?
                                From Bangalore, places in Srirangapatanam,Mysore,Bylakuppe,Kushal Nagar, Madikeri and back .
                                It was a nice and relaxed ride..both fast and safe!!!
                                Clicked some snaps of his pilot lamps for you, Man! Its bright
                                Will post them next weekend.
                                Originally posted by psr View Post
                                Congrats on an incident free ride,and glad you enjoyed it.So after 1400 kms Motul mineral still looks good,like new.Since ZMA has a time proven engine,..... reliability is to be expected.
                                Do share pictures and the experience.
                                And the Boric powder certainly gave +ve results for me. Added 20gm to 150ml shell mineral and poured it just before starting the ride. The engine felt smooth after 60 odd kms and there were no vibes till 9k RPM.
                                Filled in 15.5ltrs after reserve and filled again after 580 kms.It was blinking and I didn't want to take any chance just for sake of checking perfect figures. So its definitely giving more than 37.5kmpl while running most of the time in tripple digits.I am a happy Man .

                                My K&N+36 teeth rear spocket+Boric powder experience :

                                It just zooms n zooms in the straight line, touched 128 on speedo in 9RPM in 4th gear .No vibes...absolutely no vibes!!!
                                However it struggles a bit in hills, I need to change gears very often and it refuses to pull in higher gears
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