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**acs1207** · 07-04-2011, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

Did a short trip to south KA on ZMA and returned today. It performed exceptionally well throughout 1406 kms round trip. Checked the engine oil, Motul engine oil 3000 4T Plus is still good after doing 3 digit speeds most of the times during the ride. No viberations, no braking issues, no starting problem and no breakdown!

In which part of the globe are you now

? Ain't it monsoon season there ?

**Only Amit...** · 07-04-2011, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

In which part of the globe are you now

? Ain't it monsoon season there ?

I am not what the world wanted me to be...
I choose a direction...I don't believe in a destination!!!
I don't ride like there is no tomorrow...
I just don't ride, I am the journey !!!

HD didn't say you have to buy a HD to be a rider

Sorry for the OT

!!!

**psr** · 07-04-2011, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post

And the Boric powder certainly gave +ve results for me. Added 20gm to 150ml shell mineral and poured it just before starting the ride. The engine felt smooth after 60 odd kms and there were no vibes till 9k RPM.
Filled in 15.5ltrs after reserve and filled again after 580 kms.It was blinking and I didn't want to take any chance just for sake of checking perfect figures. So its definitely giving more than 37.5kmpl while running most of the time in tripple digits.I am a happy Man

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Yes the transformation is unique and to think such a simple thing can give such good results...i am aware of the increase in mileage due to Boric Acid, but not willing to get involved speculating about it....as it is most of ZMA thread is occupied by me...

My K&N+36 teeth rear spocket+Boric powder experience :

It just zooms n zooms in the straight line, touched 128 on speedo in 9RPM in 4th gear

.No vibes...absolutely no vibes!!!
However it struggles a bit in hills, I need to change gears very often and it refuses to pull in higher gears

Why don'tyou give up the K & N ? if you want you can always fit a Zen MPFi air filter with some alteration..Like I had done ....it breathes better and filters far superior..Have you done upjetting ?
With 36 teeth rear I presume you are running stock GB sprocket..your final ratio is way high. As it is the 5 th gear ratio is 0.815 ..the tallest among it's class,and coupled with 36 rear you need turbo to push the bike to higher RPm.....Keep a watch ..on clutch slippage...for me the slip went away with 20w40 and boric acid..i had done 1100Kms and going for the second 20Gms repeat...

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**Aneesh@4GHz** · 07-04-2011, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

Did a short trip to south KA on ZMA and returned today. It performed exceptionally well throughout 1406 kms round trip. Checked the engine oil, Motul engine oil 3000 4T Plus is still good after doing 3 digit speeds most of the times during the ride. No viberations, no braking issues, no starting problem and no breakdown!

Congrats for your successful trip.waiting for pics

**harishsangwan** · 07-04-2011, 11:18 PM

Hey guys...I got my hands dirty again today

Another DIY. Changed the stock headlamp to Bosch/Micro H4 60/55W.

Bought a Ratchet handle with 8mm and 10mm box head nuts along with an extension. Thanks to PSR sir's advice on the tools earlier.

Removing the front cowl/headlight assembly was a breeze and was made much easier by the tools I got

But had some trouble while putting back the same. I had to force the right cowling quite a bit to be able to fix the top screw that goes into the tank. Hope I dint do anything wrong here

Since I took off the front cowling assembly I was also able to fix the issue I had with one of the windscreen screws. Some part of the cowling had chipped off which resulted in the screw just hanging to the visor with the washer and making noise due to vibrations. So glad to have resolved this one

Now the bulb itself. I decided to go with Bosch after reading some very positive reviews from one of the members HERE and HERE

To be frank, I dint notice lot of difference. I mean there sure was increase in light intensity but same throw and spread. The difference dint seem to be anything spectacular either. I am not that impressed yet but then will be able to give a better point of view after doing some more night riding.

Do you guys think there could be something wrong with my bike instead?

**acs1207** · 07-04-2011, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post

I am not what the world wanted me to be...
I choose a direction...I don't believe in a destination!!!
I don't ride like there is no tomorrow...
I just don't ride, I am the journey !!!

HD didn't say you have to buy a HD to be a rider

Sorry for the OT

!!!

You make me feel nostalgic "sniff , sniff". November last week , two of us on a bike , wearing just T-Shirts , Shorts and Helmets - to Ooty ! Our rears were frozen when we got there . So many years back..Four stroke was just a fuel efficient bike then . Karizma's plans may have been just on the drawing board . I'd like to take that trip now , on my ZMA R . May be in a year . . .

**pronoy_banerjee** · 07-04-2011, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Pronoy try not to use Acetone for mix and pouring in the engine oil. Acetone is not kind to plastic and rubber parts..This is just to avoid a variable, though, so far no adverse effect reported. try mixing Boric acid in 2 T.
Did you ride the bike for 50 kms after adding the mix otherwise it will settle down as a sediment.
The boric acid in the presence of water Vapor turns to boric oxide and forms cls bonds on to the surface of the metal parts...
there are two things happening here...
1. there is a filling up of minor scratches and pits in all the areas,closing tolerances, and increasing compression,
2. a glass like coating which gives a slippery surface forms, improving lube and reducing friction...
The oil should not be drained for at least 1,000 kms for the full effect to take place.
There will be a noticeable effect after the first 20 to 40 Kms, then near 500 kms and then near 1,000 kms.

Yes i rode for a little less than 50 Kms, but the ride included, high revs, so that must be fine...

i knew about the degrading properties of acetone, so i wanted to heat up the engine quickly.. as the boiling point of acetone is 57 Degree C,
Its pretty obvious that the engine (oil compartment) temp. goes well above that, so acetone would evaporate away.

The second difference i noticed is the RPM - Speed difference as compared to before adding the mix.

Previously the bike did 80Kmph in 5th gear with 5000 RPM.
now after about riding 35-40 Kms
The bike touches 80Kmph in 5th gear with around 4500-4600 RPM.

This is a considerable difference, and im amazed..
I wont say The bike is smoother than before, as i did not notice much of a difference, but there is no knocking even in lower RPM's.

Also the acceleration has gone up..
In 1st Gear, I slip the clutch a little bit and the front wheel looses ground..

Do i need to get the oil filter changed after a couple of 100Kms?

**acs1207** · 07-04-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by harishsangwan View Post

Changed the stock headlamp to Bosch/Micro H4 60/55W. Thanks to PSR sir's advice on the tools earlier.

Removing the front cowl/headlight assembly was a breeze
But had some trouble while putting back the same. I had to force the right cowling quite a bit to be able to fix the top screw that goes into the tank. Hope I dint do anything wrong here

As far as I can remember , there are two bush type knobs inside of the fairing . They have to go into two holes on the bike . Hope you didn't miss them.Actually it's hard to miss them since I think the fairing will fit only once they are aligned . You might have to force them also if the rubber beading is misaligned .

To be frank, I dint notice lot of difference. I mean there sure was increase in light intensity but same throw and spread. The difference dint seem to be anything spectacular either.
I've changed from stock 35/35 to a 12 year old (left over from my M800) Halonix 55/60W .As you said , it's nothing spectacular , near same throw and spread , the increase in brightness is what you get here . Taking ZMA R's poor reflector into consideration , that's a big deal (thank them for putting in a great alternator).Now you can see better . Since companies might be having a standard for OE items (your bulb will be OE in some cars) I think only upgrades will be having even better results.
Do you guys think there could be something wrong with my bike instead?
I don't think there's anything wrong with your bike .

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**harishsangwan** · 07-05-2011, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

As far as I can remember , there are two bush type knobs inside of the fairing . They have to go into two holes on the bike . Hope you didn't miss them.Actually it's hard to miss them since I think the fairing will fit only once they are aligned . You might have to force them also if the rubber beading is misaligned .
As you said its not possible to miss this one. So no issues here. Took care of it while assembling

I've changed from stock 35/35 to a 12 year old (left over from my M800) Halonix 55/60W .As you said , it's nothing spectacular , near same throw and spread , the increase in brightness is what you get here . Taking ZMA R's poor reflector into consideration , that's a big deal (thank them for putting in a great alternator).Now you can see better . Since companies might be having a standard for OE items (your bulb will be OE in some cars) I think only upgrades will be having even better results.
The bulb that I removed form the bike was a Halonix 35/35W bulb. So as per your advice Halonix 60/55W will be better option?

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**acs1207** · 07-05-2011, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by harishsangwan View Post

The bulb that I removed form the bike was a Halonix 35/35W bulb. So as per your advice Halonix 60/55W will be better option?

No bro ..just meant that I had it lying idle with me for a long time and since I didnt want to spent extra bucks , I put it in . I think it's in the 'let-there-light' forum it was mentioned that Halonix duplicates are aplenty in the market. They are advising to go for Bosch or Philips.

**harishsangwan** · 07-05-2011, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

No bro ..just meant that I had it lying idle with me for a long time and since I didnt want to spent extra bucks , I put it in . I think it's in the 'let-there-light' forum it was mentioned that Halonix duplicates are aplenty in the market. They are advising to go for Bosch or Philips.

Thats the reason why I went with Bosch. Dint search for the Philips Premium much, I guess I should have

Anyways, theres always a next time.

**ravneetsingh** · 07-05-2011, 01:27 AM

hello evryone..guys wht abt battery...
dosen't it affect by using that Bosch/Micro H4 60/55W...??

**Only Amit...** · 07-05-2011, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

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Sir,I am lil annoying and stubborn

Will be removing the K&N soon and get a UNI

I am going to do some drastic mods which you wont like, will PM you later...its quite late to post the long list

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

You make me feel nostalgic "sniff , sniff". November last week , two of us on a bike , wearing just T-Shirts , Shorts and Helmets - to Ooty ! Our rears were frozen when we got there . So many years back..Four stroke was just a fuel efficient bike then . Karizma's plans may have been just on the drawing board . I'd like to take that trip now , on my ZMA R . May be in a year . . .

Keep it up...next time wear some riding gear along with the T-shirts

Its not at all a victory or achievement

**pranav moghe** · 07-05-2011, 09:13 AM

what about fitting HID kit to karizma ZMR ?

**acs1207** · 07-05-2011, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by ravneetsingh View Post

hello evryone..guys wht abt battery...
dosen't it affect by using that Bosch/Micro H4 60/55W...??

Battery does feel the pinch , but not that badly.A normal battery gives you better light on the road , dims very slightly when you apply the brakes or put on the indicator . But pressing pass beam when you are on low beam dims the output (remember you are drawing 115 W where 70 W was intended ) . I dont have any problem using the starter in the cold now - with a slight choke , starts at the first crank . The battery won't be as fully charged as when you have a 35/35 W if your night riding is in low speed.

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