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  • #1141
    Originally posted by Ronits View Post
    Rameshap, I won't buy the 'common sense' thing... but, yes, there must be some engineering into that thing... Its all science, brother...

    As it is, If you walk around the lanes of Chandi Chowk market in Kolkata, you will see thousands of Chinese stuffs, which doesn't add much to our common sense, but yes, they do have their science behind them! .

    What I am saying is that, that thing has some coil or something in it, which might be beneficial in some way or the other.
    Im not into that branch of engineering, so, I can't comment on it much..

    And speaking of Honda Tech, I don't have any faith in them anymore, they can't even solve a problem I have been facing on my bike since my purchase. I didn't find any Honda Tech in BBSR, they are all mechanics, so to say.




    If you know any real Honda TECH, kindly give me his contact details, Il ask him if at all, there is any solution to my bike's jerking problem.

    And why no manufacturer has implemented the thing in their 100cc segments, well, maybe they are not aware of the thing!! Who knows... Any other marketing strategy they have, Im sorry, Im not into management stuffs either..
    Ronit check psr's comment below"our copy seldom works" that is were I meant common sense.. a replica is always a replica..... As far a Honda service is concerened I never had a bad xp... its all relative.. I know a Honda engineer from Pune who has personally serviced my CBR 250r.. My car also is a Honda... I am a staunch supporter of Honda but will say better technologies are available at Kawasaki and Yamaha atleast in India....

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    • #1142
      Originally posted by rameshap View Post
      Ronit check psr's comment below"our copy seldom works" that is were I meant common sense.. a replica is always a replica..... As far a Honda service is concerened I never had a bad xp... its all relative.. I know a Honda engineer from Pune who has personally serviced my CBR 250r.. My car also is a Honda... I am a staunch supporter of Honda but will say better technologies are available at Kawasaki and Yamaha atleast in India....
      First of all, Thanks to PSR for throwing light on the engineering aspect of the 'super saver' thing... Umm, yes, our copy seldom works, but who knows. The engine oils that we use are also produced/manufactured in India, even though the firm might be from a different country, using the firm's technology under license. So, wat's d big deal!

      Even I love Honda. I would love to have my first car as a Honda City...
      May be you are quiet lucky to have been serviced well. FYI, I have not been able to replace my front mudguard, rear light switch since they were damaged, 4-5 months back...No parts available...Nor my bike's jerking problem has been solved till date...Yes, that is relative, but, if you generalize, it goes in my favor...

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      • #1143
        Originally posted by Ronits View Post
        First of all, Thanks to PSR for throwing light on the engineering aspect of the 'super saver' thing... Umm, yes, our copy seldom works, but who knows. The engine oils that we use are also produced/manufactured in India, even though the firm might be from a different country, using the firm's technology under license. So, wat's d big deal!

        Even I love Honda. I would love to have my first car as a Honda City...
        May be you are quiet lucky to have been serviced well. FYI, I have not been able to replace my front mudguard, rear light switch since they were damaged, 4-5 months back...No parts available...Nor my bike's jerking problem has been solved till date...Yes, that is relative, but, if you generalize, it goes in my favor...
        Ronits, I do not have much idea on the super saver thing...i am seeing it for first time...also i am not sure what is present inside that super saver thing. If its a capacitor..... then psr is probably right.If its some coil then also it will basically work to provide consistent current at spark plug..so that a strong spark is produce to ignite the fuel.but then thats what the ignition coil in our bike is suppose to do anyway....so i think thats why its not effective.
        coming to your spare part problem, if you cant find spare at one place then search for spares at other dealer.click on link below and search for all dealer in and around your area....someone will surely have it.

        CB Twister
        and for locating spare part try below
        Honda

        regarding the jerking problem.....if you have free service left and your dealer is unable to solve then send a complaint to Honda via website.or get it serviced from some other dealer.

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        • #1144
          Originally posted by Ronits View Post
          First of all, Thanks to PSR for throwing light on the engineering aspect of the 'super saver' thing... Umm, yes, our copy seldom works, but who knows. The engine oils that we use are also produced/manufactured in India, even though the firm might be from a different country, using the firm's technology under license. So, wat's d big deal!

          Even I love Honda. I would love to have my first car as a Honda City...
          May be you are quiet lucky to have been serviced well. FYI, I have not been able to replace my front mudguard, rear light switch since they were damaged, 4-5 months back...No parts available...Nor my bike's jerking problem has been solved till date...Yes, that is relative, but, if you generalize, it goes in my favor...
          Ronits I am from a electrical engineering back ground and hence telling after analyzing the sparko product. As PSR said the one is made using cheap quality material.. I wont elaborate here,. Friend you have to fight for your consumer rights to get what you deserve write to the CEO I have provided the email in the forum somewhere,.. call Honda.. Why r u sticking to one delaer and ASC.. In Nagpur I have 3 delars but mine is the best one may be its luck but.. Honda ASC's are not that bad.. U can hold them (and have to) accountable for whatever service they provide.. I dont sign my free service coupon unless all things mentioned are checked and carried out..
          Last edited by rameshap; 12-09-2011, 11:34 AM.

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          • #1145
            These fuel saver devices had been going around for almost two decades now....I had bought a few of these in my early days and had no good result, so broke each and every one of them to find ,that they contained 2mm thick metal discs ,of 1 inch dia,with a 3mm hole in center and there were 3 or 5 of them. Each disc was insulated from the other by a Mica sheet ,again with a hole in center, and the ends were connected to a spring which kept them in contact through their tension.It is something like in the pic below..the device can be connected any way...it is bi directional.
            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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            • #1146
              Originally posted by Ronits View Post
              First of all, Thanks to PSR for throwing light on the engineering aspect of the 'super saver' thing... Umm, yes, our copy seldom works, but who knows. The engine oils that we use are also produced/manufactured in India, even though the firm might be from a different country, using the firm's technology under license. So, wat's d big deal!
              Regarding Engine oil not all 20w40 Mineral oil is the same.Using the same engine,with different MAKE oils of same grade and type give different experience.If you want proof try a generic oil for 1000 kms and switch to Motul ,..same type and grade..
              The Stromberg unit had been certified to be effective, but our copies are not,and are a poor man's Stromberg..
              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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              • #1147
                Originally posted by psr View Post
                These fuel saver devices had been going around for almost two decades now....I had bought a few of these in my early days and had no good result, so broke each and every one of them to find ,that they contained 2mm thick metal discs ,of 1 inch dia,with a 3mm hole in center and there were 3 or 5 of them. Each disc was insulated from the other by a Mica sheet ,again with a hole in center, and the ends were connected to a spring which kept them in contact through their tension.It is something like in the pic below..the device can be connected any way...it is bi directional.

                PSR ji that is the capacitor... it's called stack plated Mica capacitors Advantages of mica capacitors arise from the fact that the dielectric material (mica) is inert. It does not change physicallyor chemically with age and it has good temperature stability. It can be used bidirectonal as Mica capacitors are non polar

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                • #1148
                  Great... thanks for all the infos.. being a Comp Sc. Engg, I got the 'electrical' angle of the device to some extent, but, Im not getting, as to how that device should do any bad, if not any good?
                  @psr - Yes, I haved had that experience with engine oils. Used Honda stock, then Castrol, now, using Shell Advance AX5..have not tried .Motul.

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                  • #1149
                    Got a new TATA green battery fitted.
                    I would rather be riding my bike thinking of God, than sitting in the temple thinking of my bike.

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                    • #1150
                      Originally posted by Horror View Post
                      Got a new TATA green battery fitted.
                      that's good!! horror, How much you paid & is it the 5amp-hr model? also could you conform if its a MF type?
                      Last edited by sachin1111; 12-09-2011, 06:00 PM.

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                      • #1151
                        Starting TRIP

                        OK got my bike services - completely today.. and we are leavin for the before mentioned trip tmw - starting at 6am .. will update as and whn possible ... 5 cb-twisters and will to tour :P

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                        • #1152
                          Originally posted by rameshap View Post
                          PSR ji that is the capacitor... it's called stack plated Mica capacitors Advantages of mica capacitors arise from the fact that the dielectric material (mica) is inert. It does not change physicallyor chemically with age and it has good temperature stability. It can be used bidirectonal as Mica capacitors are non polar
                          Yes as an Electronics Engineer I am aware of it..but just wanted to keep the explanation simple to help others understand the basic principle behind the device..
                          There are many such devices , but there is one in particular ,which time and again had proven it's working through repeated tests. It is called Direct Hit..
                          http://http://www.impulsengine.com/newproducts/directhits_rnp.shtml
                          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                          • #1153
                            Originally posted by 2wtourer View Post
                            OK got my bike services - completely today.. and we are leavin for the before mentioned trip tmw - starting at 6am .. will update as and whn possible ... 5 cb-twisters and will to tour :P
                            keep us updated ..enjoy the tour and ride safe!!don't forget to check the mileage.

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                            • #1154
                              Firstly I am already perplexed when I found that my bikes have a high-resistance build right into the spark-plug ( allegedly to suppress radio interference,by govt regulation ) and then another high-resistance build into the plug-cap at the end of the wire . Now you guys suggesting putting an inline capacitor into this mess ? To what end ?

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                              • #1155
                                Starting now :P

                                A bit of delay.. to be that much fresh .. guys ended up sleepin past time.. anyhow all set and we are startin now .. headin towards vellore ..

                                and xbhp members who see a gang of 5cb-twisters (2red,black,white,green) - its most likely us :P :P

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