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**rameshap** · 01-16-2012, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by rajaselvam_1987 View Post

Guys you all know, now i'm using single Roots Megasonic Horn & 35W HID on ma bike. But my problem is when using both HID & Horn the horn sounds too weak.
I asked about this to electrician he quote 2k for electrical mod.
That includes 5amp Battery , RR Change,Battery case modification, can i go for this?

I would suggest just upgrade to 5A battery no need to do the mods i guess a 5A battery will do the trick...

**Ronits** · 01-16-2012, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by sachin1111 View Post

Ronits,sorry for late reply...i was busy with some work. so basically what you are saying is that this is not a regular phenomenon right?...i.e this sudden thrust does not happen every time you ride between 40-45kph. and secondly this never happens after crossing 40-45 kph till you reach top speed?do conform this if true. also how is the throttle response just before this problem occurs i.e is their any non-responsiveness of throttle at say 40kph for a moment i.e just before sudden thrust taking place? and at what speed do you normally change to fourth gear?

No problem. Ya, it is not a regular phenomenon in the sense, you can't make out ,at what intervals it will occur, but, it will definitely occur! Happens more, in the morning, when engine is cold and has not run much.
Strange part is, when I ride alone, I very rarely find this prob, but with a pillion rider, occurs more often, especially when climbing an inclination and the bike needs more power!!
Ya, you can say, at much higher speeds, say 60-80kph, it won't occur.
Throttle response is just normal, before the thrust.
At, 30kph, I change to fourth gear.
Yesterday, cleaned the fuel pipeline, and the carburetor, most probably, coz when I stated the prob to a local mechanic, he opened a solid iron part, which is located almost at the center of the bike, beneath the seat, to which a iron pipe is attached to the engine, cleaned it with petrol.
Also, chain sprocket is fine. Checked with mechanic.
But, again this morning, with a pillion rider, the bike gave sudden jerks, which lasts for 1-2 secs!
Really mysterious!

Note - I used to lube my chain almost daily with SAE-90 earlier, when the bike was new. I was not into xBhp forum, and I thought, that would help maintain the chain. Did I do a mistake there?? And, might be, too much oil has accumulated in the engine's gear teeth? I have never opened or checked the gear teeth as of yet.

**Ronits** · 01-16-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

Chain slip would be accompanied by an unmistakable noise in that area . You don't mention it , so I guess there isn't any . Is the jerk accompanied by an sudden blip(raise) of rpm or the rpm kinda stalls momentarily ?

I told about chain slip, because my friends , who are experienced bikers, like you, have told so, when they encountered this prob while riding my bike.

The noise does looks, as if it comes from chain area, a sound quite resembling those coming from chains.
No issues with rpm. Its a jerk, which lasts for 1-2 secs only.
I used to lube my chain daily with SAE-90 earlier, when the bike was new. I was not into xBhp forum, and I thought, that would help maintain the chains. Did I do a mistake there?? And, might be, too much oil has accumulated in the engine's gear teeth? I have never opened or checked the gear teeth as of yet.
Please have your say..

**rameshap** · 01-16-2012, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by Ronits View Post

I told about chain slip, because my friends , who are experienced bikers, like you, have told so, when they encountered this prob while riding my bike.

The noise does looks, as if it comes from chain area, a sound quite resembling those coming from chains.
No issues with rpm. Its a jerk, which lasts for 1-2 secs only.
I used to lube my chain daily with SAE-90 earlier, when the bike was new. I was not into xBhp forum, and I thought, that would help maintain the chains. Did I do a mistake there?? And, might be, too much oil has accumulated in the engine's gear teeth? I have never opened or checked the gear teeth as of yet.
Please have your say..

I Use SAE 90 gear oil for last 3 months absouletly not an issue... No jerks for me.. I shift to fourth at 40kmph... This needs investigation from Honda Engineers and since the problem cannot be replicated it is difficult... Now is it the knocking you are refering to? I am not sure... SAE 90 gear oil is not at all and issue... What engine oil are yiou using how much have u emptied? 800 ml is the right quantity.. Also u said this occurs only in 4th Gear... So try shifting to 4th at 40kmph and tell us the results...

**Ronits** · 01-16-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by rameshap View Post

I Use SAE 90 gear oil for last 3 months absouletly not an issue... No jerks for me.. I shift to fourth at 40kmph... This needs investigation from Honda Engineers and since the problem cannot be replicated it is difficult... Now is it the knocking you are refering to? I am not sure... SAE 90 gear oil is not at all and issue... What engine oil are yiou using how much have u emptied? 800 ml is the right quantity.. Also u said this occurs only in 4th Gear... So try shifting to 4th at 40kmph and tell us the results...

Hi,
Ya, use of SAE 90 oil is fine. What I am saying is that, I might have overdone chain cleaning with SAE 90! I mean, every alternate days, I would put SAE90 on my bike's chain. Now, that is inappropriate, right?

I showed this at SVC, but to no good. Guess, this time I have to be more stern and be there at the time of servicing.

Engine oil - 20W40 from Shell. Shell Advanced AX5 to be precise. It's mineral oil. My bike has done 5500kms, guess, I need to switch to semi-synthetic.

Oh is it!! I generally empty the entire 900 ml engine oil bottle!! I have to take care of this the next time. So, you are saying to fill 800ml oil and use the remaining 100ml for top-up?

I shift to 4th gear at 30kph, coz beyond that, the engine sound gets louder, just like if you don't shift to second gear at say 20-25kph.. Is that fine? I mean, yesterday, I observed, If i stretch the bike to 35kph before I switch to 4th gear, this jerking problem doesn't occur!! I will surely check this thoroughly and let you know.

Thanks for the info.

**jugal_decoolest** · 01-16-2012, 10:26 PM

Hi frnds,
I am also a proud owner of Twister(green) brought it in may 2010 and completed 17K+ kms. Though registered to this awesome site months back but wasn't able to post any thing.
When I brought this bike, twister wasn't so popular and many used to scold about selecting it instead of P135ls. But many ppl used to ask about the bike or gaze on it while stopping on signals or passing by which made me more proud of selecting it.

The rear Tyre is a bit disappointed only bcos it is flat in middle. I maintain 30/38psi as air presser which gives me a good grip and steady drive and I do check or fill air in tyres every week, just to make sure correct presser is maintained in tyres.

Caution while getting fix the puncher, alwaz go to a good shop to fix the puncher(recommend the place where tyres are sold). I tried to get puncher of my rear tyre fixed through a road side shop and he made the hole of the puncher bigger making me no other option to change the rear tyre.

**jugal_decoolest** · 01-16-2012, 10:27 PM

some issues with my bike

I am facing:

1. Millage: My bike never gave millage of more than 58kmpl, even while driving between 40-50kmph. till Sept 2010 I gave my bike to Service center and even after telling this issue they alwaz said thy hav turn it and would give 65+ but never happened. I started giving bike to other mechanic since then, but though he states the he has turn the bike to lowest rpm+air mix setting, there hasn't been increase of millage.
Many owners here are clamming 65+ kmpl, I would like to know how you ppl are able to achieve this, I know this is possible in twister.

2. recently since a month, my Bike started giving jerk and many times it get stops automatically but when I keep my bike on neutral and tries to press the clutch this doesn't happen.

Any kind of help is appreciated.

**rajaselvam_1987** · 01-16-2012, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by jugal_decoolest View Post

I am facing:

1. Millage: My bike never gave millage of more than 58kmpl, even while driving between 40-50kmph. till Sept 2010 I gave my bike to Service center and even after telling this issue they alwaz said thy hav turn it and would give 65+ but never happened. I started giving bike to other mechanic since then, but though he states the he has turn the bike to lowest rpm+air mix setting, there hasn't been increase of millage.
Many owners here are clamming 65+ kmpl, I would like to know how you ppl are able to achieve this, I know this is possible in twister.

2. recently since a month, my Bike started giving jerk and many times it get stops automatically but when I keep my bike on neutral and tries to press the clutch this doesn't happen.

Any kind of help is appreciated.

Check the Air filter bcz u have crossed 17k.Air filter should be changed every 15k kms

**jugal_decoolest** · 01-16-2012, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by rajaselvam_1987 View Post

Check the Air filter bcz u have crossed 17k.Air filter should be changed every 15k kms

Thanks rajaselvam, is this solution for my 2nd issue(Bike started giving jerk)??. for I would be giving for servicing this weekend, so will try with changing it.

**rajaselvam_1987** · 01-16-2012, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by jugal_decoolest View Post

Thanks rajaselvam, is this solution for my 2nd issue(Bike started giving jerk)??. for I would be giving for servicing this weekend, so will try with changing it.

not only for jerking for mileage prob also.you can change the Air filter yourself it'll take only 5mins.

**sachin1111** · 01-17-2012, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by Ronits View Post

No problem. Ya, it is not a regular phenomenon in the sense, you can't make out ,at what intervals it will occur, but, it will definitely occur! Happens more, in the morning, when engine is cold and has not run much.
Strange part is, when I ride alone, I very rarely find this prob, but with a pillion rider, occurs more often, especially when climbing an inclination and the bike needs more power!!
Ya, you can say, at much higher speeds, say 60-80kph, it won't occur.
Throttle response is just normal, before the thrust.
At, 30kph, I change to fourth gear.
Yesterday, cleaned the fuel pipeline, and the carburetor, most probably, coz when I stated the prob to a local mechanic, he opened a solid iron part, which is located almost at the center of the bike, beneath the seat, to which a iron pipe is attached to the engine, cleaned it with petrol.
Also, chain sprocket is fine. Checked with mechanic.
But, again this morning, with a pillion rider, the bike gave sudden jerks, which lasts for 1-2 secs!
Really mysterious!

Note - I used to lube my chain almost daily with SAE-90 earlier, when the bike was new. I was not into xBhp forum, and I thought, that would help maintain the chain. Did I do a mistake there?? And, might be, too much oil has accumulated in the engine's gear teeth? I have never opened or checked the gear teeth as of yet.

Ronits,try changing to fourth at 35-40 kph when carrying a pillion....because in fourth gear there is less torque available to pull the load as compared to third gear....and since jerking happens on inclined road i suspect you are lugging of engine and this may be the reason for jerking.Do not worry about noise..its normal.The third gear has maximum speed limit 75km/hr(as shown on speedometer)so there is no harm if you push the bike up to 40 or even 45 kph.it will provide necessary torque at that speed and make things easier for fourth gear to pull from that speed onward.
so if you have pillion and you are traveling on incline road.....try to remain in third gear @40-45 kph speed(since jerking is happening in this range).
Do let us know if this solves the problem.

**sachin1111** · 01-17-2012, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by rajaselvam_1987 View Post

Check the Air filter bcz u have crossed 17k.Air filter should be changed every 15k kms

Also change the spark plug as it should be replaced before 9000 km as given on user manual.

**Pinaki** · 01-17-2012, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by Ronits View Post

No problem. Ya, it is not a regular phenomenon in the sense, you can't make out ,at what intervals it will occur, but, it will definitely occur! Happens more, in the morning, when engine is cold and has not run much.
Strange part is, when I ride alone, I very rarely find this prob, but with a pillion rider, occurs more often, especially when climbing an inclination and the bike needs more power!!
Ya, you can say, at much higher speeds, say 60-80kph, it won't occur.
Throttle response is just normal, before the thrust.
At, 30kph, I change to fourth gear.
Yesterday, cleaned the fuel pipeline, and the carburetor, most probably, coz when I stated the prob to a local mechanic, he opened a solid iron part, which is located almost at the center of the bike, beneath the seat, to which a iron pipe is attached to the engine, cleaned it with petrol.
Also, chain sprocket is fine. Checked with mechanic.
But, again this morning, with a pillion rider, the bike gave sudden jerks, which lasts for 1-2 secs!
Really mysterious!

Note - I used to lube my chain almost daily with SAE-90 earlier, when the bike was new. I was not into xBhp forum, and I thought, that would help maintain the chain. Did I do a mistake there?? And, might be, too much oil has accumulated in the engine's gear teeth? I have never opened or checked the gear teeth as of yet.

**Ronits** · 01-17-2012, 11:47 AM

Ok. SAE90 is all fine, then.
I will try to put up some pics, after proper inspection of sprocket.
Regarding air filter, I changed the air filter n fixed a new one last week. Purchased it from Honda SVC @ Rs 160.
Ok. Next time, Il ask them to clean with the carb cleaner or a get one from Kol. Sure, Il go through your how-to. BTW, Im comin to Kol on 26th.

Regarding engine oil change, henceforth, I will clean the engine oil compartment and then put fresh engine oil. This can be done at Indian Oil petrol outlets. There is a machine that does the cleaning. Has anyone tried this? I came to know about this 2-3 days back while filling petrol.
Even after cleaning the carb, d problem exists.

**Pinaki** · 01-17-2012, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Ronits View Post

...Regarding engine oil change, henceforth, I will clean the engine oil compartment and then put fresh engine oil. This can be done at Indian Oil petrol outlets. There is a machine that does the cleaning. Has anyone tried this? I came to know about this 2-3 days back while filling petrol. ..Even after cleaning the carb, d problem exists.

They either try to flush the engine with some solvent or flushing oil and/or blast it with compressed air to get most of the old oil out . Both of this , I try to avoid . Flushing with solvents retains some of it in the engine and spoils the fresh oil , loosens internal deposits etc which can cause problems . Blasting with compressed air introduces lots of dust & foreign material into the engine sump . None of this is necessary . Just draining the old oil hot after a ride and filling fresh new oil is sufficient for long & trouble free engine life for motorcycles .

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