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This one is nearing the melting point. What holds for Spies in 2014? Where 'll he be, Pramac Ducati or home or elsewhere?!

There's every possibility that Pramac wants to dissolve the contract.

@phanikar: Cheers. Anyway, time to move on from the RVMs issue.


The hearing will be on Thursday at Sepang. You 'll require an account (Free) to watch this video -

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I hope they show a webcast of the hearing
After watching it several times, it doesn't look like he touched, don't know why...
But what other reason can there be for the cable to break, moreover the swingarm on Dani's bike also had a deep scratch as if something sharp went through. So I guess he did touch

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penalty and all that is not in hands of dorna. it's given by the race direction :-)

and on the topic of race direction, in the past (his moto2 days), race direction did give him some preferential treatment once or twice..the most famous of those cases was his incident with wilairot, something i believe everyone here should remember..of course, that time the director of race direction was some guy named butler or something and now it's mike webb, and the former had a reputation of being loose with the rules and even preferential sometimes, according to some journalists.

dorna is in the entertainment business...any rider that is an absolute favorite of most of the people will automatically become dorna's golden boy...it's obvious, particularly if you see make the analogy to rossi's case.


lots of extrapolations there man..instead of elaborating on what i'd said, let me just say that i said (or implied) none of these things..hell i dont even think/believe/feel any of the things you have written (no i wasn't trying to say he (or any one of them) doesnt know how to brake (lol), nor do i think that it's only because of pure luck that he's gonna win the title this year nor do that i "hate" MM/honda/both (lol i dont even mildly dislike MM, i actually like him very much, just not completely sold on him yet as most other people))..please read my post again, if you want. :-)

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There's no doubt that they touched but a very faint one and should have gone unnoticed had it not snapped up the traction control cable.

Very unfortunate for Dani. Having said that, MM should have been more careful. I never understood the point in him going so aggressive so early in the race. Look at what he has done. Dani's championship run is all but over IMO.

I also doubt if the race direction would give him any harsh punishment as its a racing incident with a very undesirable outcome

With all these I see some more chances for Lorenzo - if Dani decides to take a revenge on MM and be super aggressive against him in the remaining races (provided he is as fast as MM)

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didn't say or imply that he doesn't.

i see that as another way of saying that he needs to improve his braking, which i also said without explicitly directing to his aggressiveness in his braking..several tens of times in this season we have seen how he went a bit too close to the riders in front (lorenzo and dani mostly) under braking, at times just barely managing to not clip them (credit to him for that)...yes i know such mistakes/moments/near misses happen with everyone once in a while in an activity like racing, but with marquez it's already happened a bunch of times too many (unless people choose to not notice or remember them)..he himself has admitted once or twice how he kept on being too damn close to someone under braking. it's these kinds of frequent mistakes and lack of finesse (compared to some other motogp riders, not me) in his braking is what i meant by saying him needing to improve (not learn) his braking..

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If Marquez is penalised now, its absurd.
Does this mean from now one, every contact would attract penalty??

If this is the case, why not Jerez?? He was hardly gonna make that corner.
Anyways, race by race Marquez rep is decreasing in my book(doesnt really matter, but just my point).

This hearing would be more like explanation of the incident from both the riders , like Dovi and Hayden had after their last corner incidence, in my opinion

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I'd love to see Dani's aggressive side too .

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TOBY! What an article! Nevertheless, the kid needs some advice.

Toby Moody: Marquez isn't dirty - AUTOSPORT+

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If the punishment is going to put him to the back of the grid, I would love to see it. It would be amazing to see him win from last. But can he actually repeat Valencia 2012 on a MotoGP machine. This would be worth the punishment.

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That is a long claim isn't it? Race penalty being accorded by race direction...agreed. But there have been several incidents in the past where such things have been overlooked by race direction. These incidents have been classified as racing incidents and the current ones on the track too should be regarded as the same. As such, Im sure you agree that Dorna favoritism (if such a thing exists) has anything to do with race penalties.

Your statement of Dorna being in the entertainment business reminds me of the statements made by the sports and customs ministry of our country where they classify Motorsport as "Entertainment"...and that is sad/

Over the past years people have labeled the front runner as a Dorna favorite (with the exception of Stoner). Dont know how this is deduced.

I read it before replying...perhaps you should read it again and decide on what you are trying to say/imply here.

Racing was and always is an activity which is run just at the brink of control. Every racer on the track gives it absolutely everything...even the smallest microsecond or millimeter. Such incidents are bound to happen where a faster rider tends to close in on the ones in the front every corner trying to look for a space to attack at the slightest opportunity. As I mentioned in my earlier posts, purists like Stoner, Lorenzo and Dani keep that aggression in check..youngsters like MM with a bike which is arguably the best on the grid are like eager beavers.

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Back of the grid? Winning 'd be tough. Passing Cal, Bradl and Bautista who run all over the track followed by an old fart whose race craft everyone 'd want to have and then, the Vettel version of MotoGP, Lorenzo - a mighty task but, you never know. For all we know that he is mental.

I heard that Pedrosa is gonna load his RCV with ammunitions at Sepang.

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Yet another old article but, the issue 'll always be evergreen. Simon Crafer speaks....

http://www.motovudu.com/blog/view/drawing-the-line-inspired-by-the-marquez-v-lorenzo-incident.html

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Originally posted by Makky View Post

I heard that Pedrosa is gonna load his RCV with ammunitions at Sepang.

That would be MI5 But I wish Dani takes out Marc, to win the championship in return and not hand it over to Jorge

BTW..Stoner's chooses sides
MotoGP, Stoner takes sides: Marquez must be punished
"Marc had a career other than Valentino. I've met in the past and what he is doing now. But it should be more correct. has had many contacts about this year, was close to involve other drivers: you must calm . should be strong, for sure will win the World Cup, but must respect each other more pilots. And the Federation is expected to take tough decisions, even though they usually avoid taking uncomfortable decisions. "

Read more: MotoGP, Stoner si schiera: Marquez va punito

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Until Friday just before the practice begins, this war is gonna go on and on. Mat Oxley -

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Are you only searching for such articles at work today? Or have you got some one to look for these on your behalf?

I wonder if Marc is really that fast as the writer says. Upto 10th by 1st turn, 6th by 1st lap. I know he's done it at Valencia last year in Moto2. But this is MotoGP. Faster and better guys are there on the grid. Im sure he's capable of winning it, but as easily as the writer says? I don't think so.

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Counseling seems to be the best way to deal with Marquez on this particular incident in my opinion. It wasn't a typical clash of two bikes. Pedrosa wasn't made to sit up or forced to change his line like in a typical overtaking maneuver clash. It was just extremely unfortunate that a cable broke with possibly the slightest touch ever in the history of the sport which made Pedrosa's bike's rear tyre to spin uncontrollably resulting in the high side. Marquez could have definitely judged the distance between himself and Pedrosa better, but the snapping of cable is just so unfortunate for anyone to even imagine.

Counsel Marquez about his riding aggression as much as possible. But any sort of penalty is unfair and should be avoided.

And it's not just Marquez, even Honda needs to learn from this incident that these sort of important electronic cables that control such a huge function like traction should be more securely put on a motorbike.

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^^eventually the incident happened cos the way Honda routed the cable. They should be taught a lession.I would say, strip a few horses from their factory engine and take away the seamless gearbox from satellite riders. Would give Rossi some breathing space.. Hehe..