I know that other people have explained it but just thought I'd make another comparison too

Ambassador 1800 ISZ = 75bhp

Swift Diesel = 74bhp

Amby vs. Swift?

Multiply the thought to a thousand and you have and idea how difficult it is to even begin to explain why a comparison between the Enfield and the Honda is so inappropriate and just downright impossible (ridiculous even).

You're not simply paying for the bhp. You're paying for precision engineering of the highest class, spectacular design and the very last word in reliability. And you're paying for the brilliant ride that comes out of it - a combination of power and refinement that the Enfield Classic can never even hope to achieve. Even if you were to compare it, you need to compare what it DOES with the bhp (and what Enfield doesn't).

Ultimately I hope you're happy with the choice of the Honda. If not, sell your booking and buy the Classic 500. Ultimately its your money and you need to be happy with the way you've spent it.

Cheers

Rahul

Allow me to answer... Though my answer would not be too technical to digest but will try to make it as simple as possible.

1. I am disappointed about the mileage claims of the CBR250R which is about 25-30 kmpl. At this figure, the bike is touted as highly fuel efficient!!
Recently, I read reviews of RE Classic 500 in some auto sites and found out that mileage of this fat bike has been found to be the same or slightly better at 27kmpl.
Now, I am jealous about the Classic that despite its 20kg excess mass, badly accused archaic engine technology can beat the CBR on mileage front and on power front too with 27bhp.
Could anyone explain what could make the bullet so envious to me please?
@Satyen: Good question! The RE does 27BHP with a bigger capacity engine. The cylinder of the engine is like a small barrel. It sucks in the fuel and air, is squeezed and burnt in a tiny area which people refer as 'compression' and this burning of the mixture generates the power. The exhaust also helps in sending back unburnt mixture back to the cylinder.
How much fuel it sucks in, how much compression it has, and how effeciently could it burn the fuel and ofcourse the size of the cylinder all play a vital role in deciding how much the bike can run.
The RE eats more, but doesn't process it well, despite its bigger stomach it generates as much power. The CBR eats effecient, doesn't waste a lot and generates as much power. Signifying that it uses the 'food' well.

Beyond the basics of eating enough and still being able to perform well, it goes one step beyond and ensure food isn't wasted.. So the engine is healthier and wouldn't need a stomach wash over a period of time like the REs mandate.



2. I have read in this thread few pages back that it is now standardized that 250CC bikes have to be single cylinders. Any idea whats the purpose of making them singles?
@satyen: this is what stupid posts do! Its not necessary!
In simple terms a single stomach is easier to manage than 4 smaller stomachs! So its easier to manage, easier to build and maintain and hence single cylinder. One could still make a 6 cylinder 250 too!
For a manufacturer in this segment for such small eating capabilities it rather have ONE tiffin rather than 4 small tiffins to carry the same food!

3. Lastly, a layman's question. Please do not kick me out of here for this. Why shoould a bike cost more than a car any day? A car looks to be taking in more of everything than a bike in the manufacturing process - more materials, more time, labour etc etc... So, why should Honda CBR250R or any other bike of this class should cost more than say a TATA Nano or a similar small car?
@Satyen- Beats me! Which is why I would want to wait for a Bajaj or TVS to respond to this product. It may not be as effecient, but it would be VFM enough!


Ps: I know I can't apply for a job as a physics professor with these examples, but I hope they helped!

How Many of you all Have booked the Baby CBR and are first time riders.......?????
Secondly How many are considering this as a commuter bike and seriously even considering Mileage for it...???

When did you start working for Honda ?

i regularly visit this thread to see if any new info about cbr is available. nothing purposeful seems to be coming in.

1st- How is that supposed to be remotely related to me working with Honda..???

Honda are undertaking customer survey from all the people who have booked. They ask marital status and km/day usage of the bike and a few more questions i forgot

hi, i tried this monster theme!..

Looks damn good for a PS job.... im sure this pic is going to flood other forums and web sites too .... add your name below