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Answer... plenty... people don't discard bikes like disposable pens or whatever... for many (including me), their bike grows on them... they would rather work on what they have then discard the bike just because something newer and cheaper came along... also the Honda has to catchup to 1000 Ninjas and over 50,000 approx (3 years production) R15s before it can become 'more common'... and that can take about 2 years...Originally posted by harryhunt7 View PostOnly a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.
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This is what Joel had to say...Originally posted by xionite View Postsmoke? or keep up?
i know his big bore kits are brilliant... but "smoking" a ninja??? unlikely.
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Well tbh, the Ducati's competed with the likes during its time and they didn't have, or should i say none of the companies wanted to rethink their chassis because they thought tweaking power would make all the difference. If you really know how much difference the 'design' of a motorcycle with minimal changes to the engine would make then watch this YouTube - One Man's Dream: The Britten Bike Story . The movie's name is One Man's Dream: The Britten Bike Story. Download it and watch it. In fact the discovery show of the world's best motorcycles(the one you have linked) has this bike amongst its best. The Ducati might have taken the world by 'storm' but this bike was a V-twin too which destroyed its competitors in its time. The owner(one man) of the Britte bike died shortly after its explosive debut. The Britten's design are still ahead of contemporary design.Originally posted by cool_dude_sunn_y View PostFirst of all, i was not comparing an inline with a v-twin! I just shared the info that Ducati's are indeed high rev machine atleast the one i rode [748] and it is a v-twin.
Buddy, what will a chassis do if there was no engine plonked on it! So, cutting it short i was contributing my inputs about you saying chassis is everything while cornering.
According to me chassis is all about stabilty (as you also said now), and cornering depends on the how well the bike and the biker can play with the CG. And how much you can accelerate while cornering depends on how the power is delivered to the rear tyre!
I will look out for the discovery video i was talking about and pass on the link, it not about traction control but how Ducati 916 took the racing world by storm by developing its v-twin engine delivering ultra smooth power. [If they had to go by what you were saying, they should have reworked their chassis]
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on a track. on a track.Originally posted by jigar2speed View PostThis is what Joel had to say...
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorspo...tml#post547957
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/...tml#post482463

and he isn't really saying anything about "smoking a ninja"..
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Originally posted by xionite View Poston a track. on a track.
and he isn't really saying anything about "smoking a ninja".If you read it carefully, it says every aspect...and yes he is talking about smoking the ninja...we are spitting out over 25 horses on street with pump gas and can whip the ninja in every aspect.
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Chill man, I know you R15 owners are feeling the heatOriginally posted by jigar2speed View PostAre you being sarcastic ? If yes, FYI, a full modded joeled R15 can smoke Ninja 250...
, but why sweat the R15 is one of the best machines ever produced. You happy now
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What makes you think that Joel cant modify a Ninja, if he soups up a Ninja then you know right ...............
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Ninja will win anyday in an upbeat against CBR250R.
Just because the CBR250 is a Honda,we are thinking so much about it!!!!
A similar output is also delivered by the Mahindra Mojo.............and I don't think there was much of this talk about it.
The only bike available at low price that can defeat Ninja in outright performance is an old RD350.
People planning to sack Ninja250,get a second hand RD,soup it up by spending 50 to 60 grands ,and all within 1.25lacs you can smoke a 3 lac bike top to bottom.................now that is called performance.
Joel himself would disagree..........I thinkOriginally posted by xionite View Postsmoke? or keep up?
i know his big bore kits are brilliant... but "smoking" a ninja??? unlikely.
unless he finds a way of puttin the R6 engine in the R15 chassis
,well everything is possible for Joel !!!
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EDIT: Never mind double post... Please delete.Last edited by jigar2speed; 12-23-2010, 12:50 AM.My thoughts are subjected to personal experiences/internet articles. Please read my comment carefully before replying. :)
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Woah mate, when did i ever sound like teen...Originally posted by bprags View PostChill man, I know you R15 owners are feeling the heat
, but why sweat the R15 is one of the best machines ever produced. You happy now
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What makes you think that Joel cant modify a Ninja, if he soups up a Ninja then you know right ...............

I was just conveying the words of Joel... I trust him. If he says, R15 (Joel's modded) can smoke Ninja, that means it can, why ? Because any one likes it or not, Joel knows what he is talking.. He is no trash talker for sure.
PS: I don't care if a 100CC bike smokes R15, i enjoy how it behaves with me and at my age, i don't need bi**h, i just enjoy her in the weekend, rest you can find me on my lousy battery vehicle while going to office.

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Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.
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RD doesnt need even a ziltch of mod or 'soup' to defeat Ninja...Originally posted by MACH50 View PostThe only bike available at low price that can defeat Ninja in outright performance is an old RD350.
People planning to sack Ninja250,get a second hand RD,soup it up by spending 50 to 60 grands ,and all within 1.25lacs you can smoke a 3 lac bike top to bottom.................now that is called performance.
Just put a well maintained bike to the task and here you go....
BTW, why are we even talking about those mighty 2 strokers...!2002 - Pulsar 150 Classic (Still owned)
2005 - Pulsar 150 Dtsi (Still owned)
2006 - Eterno (sold)
2008 - Dio (Owned)
2009 - Pulsar 220 DTSi
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Yes, I agree to the torque&rideable feel that makes a lot of difference-maybe some might find it funny that this is coming from an R15 owner!Originally posted by bprags View PostI don't expect the FE to be so less, it might be some where around 30 to 35 (who knows may be more
), it has good low and mid range torque and ain't peaky like the Ninja, the rider wont be revving much, so should deliver better FE than the Ninja atleast.
I just read the link provided by @harryhunt7, the mileage seems to be pretty good for a new bike 32 to 35 kmpl. 32kmpl under hard riding is very good that too with a pillion. I am very very happy.
Mileage...that is what my R15 gives, on hard riding that too without a pillion-32-34kmpl.
Otherwise it returns about 38-40kmpl.
I wish they had given the Honda a bigger tank though. Its very much needed for a sports tourer.
I think the Ninja owners are feeling the heat!Originally posted by bprags View PostChill man, I know you R15 owners are feeling the heat

R15 is afterall a 150cc bike, albeit very powerful in its class.
I am waiting for the 250 shootout eagerly.
Quench my thirst with gasoline!
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