P220 comes for 82k. Now add in costs for the better suspension, full fairing, discs..so on and still isnt it possible to price it below 1.5L and earn a good profit on volumes??
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Never understood guys here... By just hearing the word '250cc' many guys here start saying 2L is a very reasonable price. P220 is a 220cc bike turning out 21ps. Ninja is a 250 giving 33ps. Now the major difference between them is the engine. For having a 250cc bike all you have to do is make a engine having a displacement of additional 30cc than the p220.(not comparing here.how you do it depends on the manufacturer.single cylinder.. or watever).
P220 comes for 82k. Now add in costs for the better suspension, full fairing, discs..so on and still isnt it possible to price it below 1.5L and earn a good profit on volumes??
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i would like to agree with you, but the thing is not how much power you make.. but how you put that power on road... not the engine but its power delivery across rev range and smoothness.. and how it handles.. its the complete package that's what counts...Originally posted by Tron05 View PostNever understood guys here... By just hearing the word '250cc' many guys here start saying 2L is a very reasonable price. P220 is a 220cc bike turning out 21ps. Ninja is a 250 giving 33ps. Now the major difference between them is the engine. For having a 250cc bike all you have to do is make a engine having a displacement of additional 30cc than the p220.(not comparing here.how you do it depends on the manufacturer.single cylinder.. or watever).
P220 comes for 82k. Now add in costs for the better suspension, full fairing, discs..so on and still isnt it possible to price it below 1.5L and earn a good profit on volumes??
being a 220 owner myself i know its a very good and affordable package but even if you remove the engines from the equation i see that the cbr is a far superior package.
i read somewhere that Honda applied for around 26/27 patients for the development of this bike. this should explain everything.
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I don't know how to use the multiple quote option. Or i'm too stupid i guess. Anyway i don't see why some guys here are disappointed at the single cylinder spec. The Ninja has better ingredients, twin cyl, 33bhp, etc., etc., yes, but if Honda did the same, the CBR 250's price would be close to the 3 lakh mark or maybe more. It might have been less if some parts were localized, agree. But it's still a very good bike, i mean, it looks amazing, got the power to cruise with ease at 120-130kmph, it's got C-ABS, a 140 section rear tyre, and, above all, it's a Honda. Considering their split from Hero motors, I think they are headed in the right direction with this 250. If the price is sub 1.5 lakh (which is a bit doubtful to me), then it'll push companies like Yamaha, kTm (to be launched 125cc) and Kawasaki to revise their prices. (No offense meant to anyone here with this post
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P.S.: Hope they bring the Ninja's price down after the CBR launches
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So you're saying you neglect the reputation and experience of the Jap giants? Frankly i can go on for days as to why the Ninja 250R or the CBR 250R is better in every aspect compared to the 220(i'm being the stupidest guy on the planet thereOriginally posted by Tron05 View PostNever understood guys here... By just hearing the word '250cc' many guys here start saying 2L is a very reasonable price. P220 is a 220cc bike turning out 21ps. Ninja is a 250 giving 33ps. Now the major difference between them is the engine. For having a 250cc bike all you have to do is make a engine having a displacement of additional 30cc than the p220.(not comparing here.how you do it depends on the manufacturer.single cylinder.. or watever).
P220 comes for 82k. Now add in costs for the better suspension, full fairing, discs..so on and still isnt it possible to price it below 1.5L and earn a good profit on volumes??
). But ,the detail and the tech that goes in to making every cc and BHP count is what matters. It is possible to make such good bikes for such low prices, but the profit margins will be very lean for all the R&D that has gone into designing it even if it is only 30cc more. Besides the new CBR 250R has 27 patents! How many does the 220 have? You're thinking 20? No. Don't quantify when comparing 2 companies with different backgrounds. Bajaj targets the masses crudely. As long a they sell, it's well and good for them. Honda competes on a global scale besides, so they have to price it competitively, not crudely like Bajaj (No offence meant to anyone here too
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P.S.: Honda makes bikes that will surely sell. Bajaj makes sure their bikes sell :-PLast edited by ironman; 10-27-2010, 10:53 PM.Riding is a way of life. Sometimes, it might also be a way of giving life. So Ride safe. In both contexts.
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CBU looks like an uncertainty, there will definitely be localization of parts which obviously translates into a somewhat affordable price. But yes if it IS a CBU, then Honda will have a free hand in pricing it at a premium. But I guess it may be the same mark at what the Ninja is offered at.
Apart from that, yes the old CBR inline 4 was much better on the spec sheet, but this is a fresh new start for Honda and theres a lot of scope as these are their( 150 and 250R) new bikes. So maybe 4 years down the line, they may get equipped with v-twins or inline-4s, USD forks etc etc.. who knows! What I loved about the whole bike was the addition of C-ABS. good stuff. Now cut a great price for us Honda."Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"
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