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New Yamaha R15 Version 2.0 - Launched on 6th Sep, 2011

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    • Originally posted by cmahajan View Post
      Oh come on. '...' is harmless and not exactly SMS lingo. It is used to convey a small pause in a statement !!

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      Hehe, I was just pulling your leg.=P
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      • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
        The bike is 19ps, with 2Nm extra torque.
        Dont know if you are kidding but that is exactly what ive been telling!
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        • Originally posted by KwokFist View Post
          R15 shares its roots with the Vixion from Indonesia which again is based on the T135 step-thru which is widely available in Indonesia and Malaysia. While Yamaha claims that its a complete product built ground up for India (fairing design only ) it is anything but that.
          R15 shares many of its components, chassis and cycle parts with the Indonesian Vixion but apparently makes slightly more power in its form in India. It derives its roots from the T135 platform which in our case has served to be an excellent platform for a small capacity 4 valve 4 stroke engine. And all our 20P batch bikes had several components, cycle parts etc imported from Indonesia and Singapore notably the engines \m/
          I am aware of the V-ixion connection of R15, infact its the faired version of V-ixion. Till now, I haven't been able to find out any upgrade to V-ixion, the kind of which are being speculated for current R15. If it shares its routes with T135, it doesn't mean that its not a new model. Every company takes one of its previous engine/chassis as a base and then do experimentation on it before finalising a new one.

          Originally posted by abhi_underdog View Post
          Talking about the diameter here..taller Tyre will show lesser speed than the default one at the same RPM. So what Samarth said is possible.

          21BHP air filter, ecu remapping, high lift cams and exhaust? keeping in mind noise/emission norms, aint it a little too optimistic?
          Thats why I said, I am expecting the new R15 with same engine, power abd torque.

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          • Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
            Ok, read my reply carefully so you don't get confused.

            Firstly, I did NOT say that sticky tyres change gear ratios.
            It just happened in my specific case, as 100/80 (R15's tyre) was smaller in profile, than 100/90 (stock Pulsar's tyre) which made my bike undergeared.

            Also, I just said that very-sticky tyres decrease the performance of the vehicle in terms of 0-60 kmph, roll ons, etc. because they provide more stickiness and resistance to move forward.
            A soft tyre is like a bubble gum, its so sticky that it becomes difficult to push it, but it does give grip nonetheless.


            Secondly, I don't have any such "documentation", but do you really think that in an era of carburetted bikes, a fuel injected bike will have a problem passing emission norms?
            To give you a small idea, Fi reduces pollution by around 60-80% compared to Carburetted bikes.
            You know YZF R6 and ZX 6R? Such a high state of tune and 16,000 rpm revving, still they both pass Euro III in many countries, probably due to an exhaust change every few years or so.

            BS II is just a small standard compared to Euro III. Give the R15 a proper exhaust and it will pass the standard easily..

            And I wonder why is Joel bro not replying? I sent him a PM too... He knows everyone will trust him rather than me..



            It's the opposite. Taller tyres will show more speed than smaller profile tyres, at a particular rpm "X".
            Keep living in your own theory with 'bubble gum' tyres.

            Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
            The bike is 19ps, with 2Nm extra torque. Bore&stroke angles changed by 0.5mm.
            Weight is less by just about 1kg.
            Should have better low end response with the extra torque at hand+sprocketing changes.
            Top end should be about the same or maybe slightly higher.
            Would you mind sharing source of this info?

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            • Originally posted by Vikas the Shokeen biker View Post
              Keep living in your own theory with 'bubble gum' tyres.

              Relax, samarth just said all these things after testing those tyres on his Pulsar 180 ugIII, and the same was experienced by the fellow member xionite and the rpm and speed which he expressed was on his P180. If you fit lower/higher profile tyre on your bike, won't you make the gearing taller/shorter?? What he said referring to the gear ratios has nothing to do with the sticky tyres. He said that the sticky tyres have more drag(correct me if I'm wrong) that's why the bike runs under pressure.
              Regarding the emission norms what he replied to your post is truly justifiable, that if the carb bike can clear the emission norms why won't a tech-laden fuel injected bike and he gave the example of the r6s and other 600s which rev past 16000rpm mark and are still able to clear the euro3 norms which are tougher than our emission norms.
              And you really don't require documents for this discussion because it's all logical.
              Last edited by hellbreaker46; 09-01-2011, 06:37 PM.
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              • Originally posted by hellbreaker46 View Post
                How are you so sure?? speculation, I guess.
                Originally posted by Vikas the Shokeen biker View Post

                Would you mind sharing source of this info?
                some screenshot of a specsheet floating around on facebook.
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                • Originally posted by hellbreaker46 View Post
                  Relax, samarth just said all these things after testing those tyres on his Pulsar 180 ugIII, and the same was experienced by the fellow member xionite and the rpm and speed which he expressed was on his P180. If you fit lower/higher profile tyre on your bike, won't you make the gearing taller/shorter?? What he said referring to the gear ratios has nothing to do with the sticky tyres. He said that the sticky tyres have more drag(correct me if I'm wrong) that's why the bike runs under pressure.
                  Regarding the emission norms what he replied to your post is truly justifiable, that if the carb bike can clear the emission norms why won't a tech-laden fuel injected bike and he gave the example of the r6s and other 600s which rev past 16000rpm mark and are still able to clear the euro3 norms which are tougher than our emission norms.
                  And you really don't require documents for this discussion because it's all logical.
                  Oh I am pretty relaxed buddy. Regarding the tyre, I can understand that softer compound tyres will have more drag than the hard compound ones. But FYI, R15 already comes shodded with soft compound tyres. Is Samarth using 'race spec slicks'? And about the emission norms, do we have any anybody who can provide the complete details asin hoew it is done? AFAIK, they aren't measured at idle. Its a specific speed (I guess 90 or 100kph for Europe) in top gear at which they measure emissions. Also, emission norms include the sound as well.

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                  • Originally posted by FATAL1TY - X View Post
                    some screenshot of a specsheet floating around on facebook.
                    Are you talking about the one from Yamaha website?

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                    • Originally posted by Vikas the Shokeen biker View Post
                      Are you talking about the one from Yamaha website?
                      found this on face book

                      Yamaha YZF R15 V2.0 | Facebook

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                      • Originally posted by aadimanav View Post
                        found this on face book

                        Yamaha YZF R15 V2.0 | Facebook
                        It says 17ps and 15nm, same as old motorcycle.

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                        • Originally posted by Vikas the Shokeen biker View Post
                          Are you talking about the one from Yamaha website?
                          couple of users who posted that pic say so. They say that they got it from some website designers who where running test runs on yamaha website. dont think it is true though. yamaha havent done any modifications on any of their indigenous engines after the first release(if ever they did, they released it as a completely different model). and for an engine developed and produced outside(already at a high tune level) all this "more power for sure" speculations pretty much seems far fetched to me.
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                          2014 Btwin Rock Rider 8.1
                          1990 Yamaha RX110
                          2010 Yamaha YZF-R15
                          2015 KTM RC390 (Sold)
                          2018 TVS Apache RR 310

                          2007 Suzuki Alto Lxi

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                          • Originally posted by Vikas the Shokeen biker View Post
                            It says 17ps and 15nm, same as old motorcycle.
                            yes bro but i dont trust that page..
                            how can i think its a genuine yamaha page

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                            • Originally posted by FATAL1TY - X View Post
                              couple of users who posted that pic say so. They say that they got it from some website designers who where running test runs on yamaha website. dont think it is true though. yamaha havent done any modifications on any of their indigenous engines after the first release(if ever they did, they released it as a completely different model). and for an engine developed and produced outside(already at a high tune level) all this "more power for sure" speculations pretty much seems far fetched to me.
                              Thats what I have been saying since my recent participation on this thread.

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                              • Originally posted by Vikas the Shokeen biker View Post
                                Oh I am pretty relaxed buddy. Regarding the tyre, I can understand that softer compound tyres will have more drag than the hard compound ones. But FYI, R15 already comes shodded with soft compound tyres. Is Samarth using 'race spec slicks'? And about the emission norms, do we have any anybody who can provide the complete details asin hoew it is done? AFAIK, they aren't measured at idle. Its a specific speed (I guess 90 or 100kph for Europe) in top gear at which they measure emissions. Also, emission norms include the sound as well.
                                That's what he said, that the R15 has the softest locally available tyre and like we said softer rubber = more grip,drag so you lose slightly on acceleration and as far as grip is concerned try braking the rtr160 in wet (with due respect to all rtr owners/lovers) and compare it with the braking distance of the R15 and then you will realize how gripy the tyres are on the R15, keeping in mind the brakes are as good as the R15 on the RTR, so what he meant was that the tyre is softest (locally available) and if we change to slightly harder ones there will be lesser drag , the tyre is soft in comparison to the other tyres but not to such an extent that they challenge the "race spec slicks", as far as emission norms is corcerned I am in need of more information as I don't know the factual data.
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