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  • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

    Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    btw, isn't combi braking patented by honda..?
    Nope! I posted a wiki link above for the same. Various companies have their own implementations.

    Here's the link again. Combined braking system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

      Originally posted by raging_bull View Post
      1.5 lakh is beyond my budget .

      Btw, combined brakes without wheel speed sensors?! Is it safe? I think a combined braking system without abs on a quarter litre bike is a stupid and dangerous idea!
      If 1.5 lacs is the final on-road price here in Mysore, I don't mind postponing getting a new bike for another year or so. . .

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      • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

        RNT is awesome, not by design but functionality. It can be used as a generator as well. It is going to great rural work horse. With that sort of torque, one can fit after market two wheeled karts as well. May be hero can make 300 cc motor in same line for a small 3 wheeled vehicle.
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        • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

          Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
          Explains nicely about the Geodesic frame..:

          Erik Buell

          Quote from the article link:Buell
          All rit... but the HX250r has "geodesic TUBULAR frame " i suppose !!

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          • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

            Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post

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            Now looking at HX I don't think the improvements on karismas would be just 2 bhps. New karismas don't have Honda engine any more right?
            so instead of developing 1 quarter liter class engines and producing two bikes they have produced 2 new engines(since they have stopped using honda engines)
            quite a lot of work hero been doing..lets pray the new karizma is a concept bike and the production one will be more sane,ofcourse with better engines
            coming back to topic..god i love how hx250r looks,i have even made the chaiwala look at it..
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            • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

              Originally posted by maadyy View Post
              Nope but I loved mechanics. Well that is actually a part of mathematics and it is mostly about the coordinates.

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              Same here. The mechanics course in the first was about the very few courses which had me actually study out of interest and not compulsion.
              I sometimes curse myself for having studied electronics, especially when I visit the svc and have a talk with the KTM engineer sometimes

              Prince : Just have a small read about trusses(The trellis frame and the Howrah/Hoogly Bridge are the most easily visualised examples). That'll tell you what a stressed member is(it's a load bearing member).
              If say the engine develops some structure fault then the entire chassis is compromised. But by how much depends on the location and design.
              So every member(in our casthe engine is a member) is connected and play there part in bearing the load(or forces which come into play when the bike is moving, actually event when the bike is stationary). The exact distribution of forces is of course decided by a CAD software(or may be something else)

              Aside :
              The same reason, even a minor dent in the chassis means a totaled bike everywhere but India, since Insurance folks can't guarantee the integrity of the chassis as they don't have the means. If something goes wrong later then they stand to be sued.
              But here in India, the stupid Insurance guys would always offer to repair your chassis, rims, forks whatever.
              Besides they even deduct 10% as salvage on replaced parts. This 'salvage' means the bent, dented chassis rims would fetch at least 10 % of their original price somewhere. But they won't tell you where. Because probably they themselves don't know where and hence they just pass the burden of salvaging the spent parts to us.
              Perhaps they are just waiting to be sued by a disgruntled customer. I don't have the time and patience to be that disgruntled customer. Yet!!!
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              • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                Originally posted by shivakrish View Post
                All rit... but the HX250r has "geodesic TUBULAR frame " i suppose !!
                Geodesic is a term which came from applied Mathematics. In simple words a geodesic is the shortest distance between two points. In the plane, the geodesics are straight lines. On the sphere, the geodesics are circles (like the equator). The geodesics in a space depends on the Riemannian Metric , which affects the notions of distance and acceleration. So it is basically a concept used here to built the frame. Different frame uses different concepts like the famous TRELLIS FRAME uses Lattice Girder principles. It suggests a combination of structural sections connected with diagonal lacing.

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                • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                  ya i know trusses, studied it in first year of engineering.
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                  • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                    Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                    Any option if we don't want the combined braking. Like if I don't want to opt for it..
                    Cut the second hydraulic cable that goes to front brakes.
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                    • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                      Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
                      Cut the second hydraulic cable that goes to front brakes.
                      well, I wish they give that as an option too.. I mean non combined brake variant too.. the Combined braking and ABS, both as an option too could save a little more money for few consumers..
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                      • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                        Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                        well, I wish they give that as an option too.. I mean non combined brake variant too.. the Combined braking and ABS, both as an option too could save a little more money for few consumers..
                        It was posted here and also in some other websites too, it's said that there will be an option for ABS, not standard though. . .

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                        • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                          Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                          It was posted here and also in some other websites too, it's said that there will be an option for ABS, not standard though. . .
                          Cheers!!!
                          Its good that the option for an ABS version is there.

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                          • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                            Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                            It was posted here and also in some other websites too, it's said that there will be an option for ABS, not standard though. . .

                            Cheers!!!
                            You didn't get my point. I know that the ABS is an option, but if the Combined braking too was an option, it can save some money too but never the less, 1.5L On-Road is a good price indeed
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                            • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                              I somehow feel that it will not be conservatively priced since CBR abs is already costlier than duke 390 and hero has always priced its product costlier than Hondas when they were together ...

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                              • re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

                                I feel that combined braking system without ABS is not a good idea since the system works in the same manner irrespective of the road conditions (if my understanding of CBS is correct).
                                That can be dangerous because there's nothing the rider can do during an emergency situation. Remember, this bike ain't a lazy scooter.
                                Last edited by raging_bull; 01-31-2014, 08:56 PM.
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