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**ALI.R** · 02-23-2017, 07:01 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by VaibhavPisal View Post

called showroom. apparently test ride is available in Gurgaon. will be going tomorrow morning.

ergonomics of apache? yamaha gets them on the spot. they are more refined products overall in every aspect.

overall i find yamaha bikes work like new over a period of 5-6 yrs of ownership. after that some parts change, max 10 k investment and voila. its great again.

overall i would say the points you mentioned look good on paper but in real world riding have little impact except abs and tires. for tires yamaha has mrf which will be marginally worse. not big difference.

also its 50 cc, more torque low down in rev range. if they produced it at higher rpm, difference wouldve been 5 bhp easily.

As a fz16 user myself, I found the Apache's ergonomics as good if not better. Even the fit and finish is comparable. The ride quality is also much much better.

I am a Yamaha fanboy too. But they have been slipping in terms of their quality, servicing. The local manufacturers have quite evidently caught up now. Yes the Yamaha engines are still on a different level, but you have to ride the new TVS to understand how close they are now. Bajaj on the other hand, are nowhere in the picture.

**VaibhavPisal** · 02-23-2017, 07:03 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by tanishq View Post

Will this time.. they are exporting huge units in other countries.. & so far there is no complaints abt the rtr200.. fit & finish of the bike is equally good as japs & there is almost no vibe in the bike.. so i guess as par vfm rtr200 is ahead of fZ-250.

i have heard tvs bikes deteriorate fast. in 4 yrs start rattling and stuff. this may have improved but do not know. with yamaha, its a brand build on that. also quality of service i get from yamaha is great.

also what about 50 cc, extra torque etc?

**Naveen1985** · 02-23-2017, 07:07 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

In metros Yamaha service is mostly good...

**VaibhavPisal** · 02-23-2017, 07:08 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by ALI.R View Post

As a fz16 user myself, I found the Apache's ergonomics as good if not better. Even the fit and finish is comparable. The ride quality is also much much better.

I am a Yamaha fanboy too. But they have been slipping in terms of their quality, servicing. The local manufacturers have quite evidently caught up now. Yes the Yamaha engines are still on a different level, but you have to ride the new TVS to understand how close they are now. Bajaj on the other hand, are nowhere in the picture.

about ergos on apache, i liked its handlebar position. but has pegs perched up higher. feels odd.

on fz 16 it feels natural. more refined and better done.

rest i would say differences are small. in everything, price power, ergo, quality etc. but they are there

**tanishq** · 02-23-2017, 07:09 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by VaibhavPisal View Post

i have heard tvs bikes deteriorate fast. in 4 yrs start rattling and stuff. this may have improved but do not know. with yamaha, its a brand build on that. also quality of service i get from yamaha is great.

also what about 50 cc, extra torque etc?

Well i agree on the after sales service part.. but definitely tvs engines are not bad.. u will get the same good response from the engine even after 5 years.. & Extra 2nm torque doesn't make u super happy... Its more or less the same .

**Naveen1985** · 02-23-2017, 07:16 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by VaibhavPisal View Post

about ergos on apache, i liked its handlebar position. but has pegs perched up higher. feels odd.

on fz 16 it feels natural. more refined and better done.

rest i would say differences are small. in everything, price power, ergo, quality etc. but they are there

Still I feel fz16 feels way more torquey than other bikes in its segment and this is the reason why I am expecting another torquey machine from yamaha. On paper it is torquey, lets see how much it delivers on road...

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Originally posted by tanishq View Post

Well i agree on the after sales service part.. but definitely tvs engines are not bad.. u will get the same good response from the engine even after 5 years.. & Extra 2nm torque doesn't make u super happy... Its more or less the same .

Tt is only 2nm extra but it comes early at 6000rpm only which will give it excellent low and mid range power.

**tanishq** · 02-23-2017, 07:21 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

On rtr200 its comes down to 7k... So not that huge difference buddy.

**VaibhavPisal** · 02-23-2017, 07:22 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by tanishq View Post

Well i agree on the after sales service part.. but definitely tvs engines are not bad.. u will get the same good response from the engine even after 5 years.. & Extra 2nm torque doesn't make u super happy... Its more or less the same .

thats good to hear, about engine of tvs bikes.

that 2 nm comes at lower rpm. makes a big difference.

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

Still I feel fz16 feels way more torquey than other bikes in its segment and this is the reason why I am expecting another torquey machine from yamaha. On paper it is torquey, lets see how much it delivers on road...

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Tt is only 2nm extra but it comes early at 6000rpm only which will give it excellent low and mid range power.

i will likely test ride it tomorrow most likely, and will find out.

funny thing is i simply could not get apache test ride. despite of multiple trips to showroom, 5-6 times i guess. none of the showroom had test bikes. so i gave up. it was getting embarrassing.

**Naveen1985** · 02-23-2017, 07:25 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by tanishq View Post

On rtr200 its comes down to 7k... So not that huge difference buddy.

I am sure it will make significant difference in roll-on figures which are more useful in city and day to day usage than 0-100 figure which mostly people consider as benchmark for performance.

**tanishq** · 02-23-2017, 07:29 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

I am sure it will make significant difference in roll-on figures which are more useful in city and day to day usage than 0-100 figure which mostly people consider as benchmark for performance.

Nah bro.. trust me it will not... Just a suggestion from my side.. go & test ride both the bikes before buying this will help u to understand alot... I simply cannot convenience u just by typing few words.. its better to swing legs over & decided by ur self. 😊

**VaibhavPisal** · 02-23-2017, 07:31 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

these nos are indicative of how engine will perform.

look at top speed of both bikes. videos from brazil fz suggest top speed of 150+ on casual riding ( not doing top speed run on km long empty road).
for rtr i have seen 130 or so (casual riding) on youtube.

i feel power wise fz should feel noticeably better.

**Naveen1985** · 02-23-2017, 07:32 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by tanishq View Post

Nah bro.. trust me it will not... Just a suggestion from my side.. go & test ride both the bikes before buying this will help u understand alot... I simply cannot convenience just by typing few words.. its better to swing legs over & decided by ur self. 😊

Obviously I will test ride it but still I am sure about few things just because of my past experience.

**Suresh VMax** · 02-23-2017, 11:01 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

FZ25, On road price in Chennai is Rs.1,38,200/-. The bike will be available in show rooms in South India by next week.

**satishg** · 02-24-2017, 02:05 AM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

No test report by any journo yet...why so ? I think its a practical 250cc machine for masses! with great initial pull...

**dineshaugustin** · 02-24-2017, 07:28 AM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Originally posted by VaibhavPisal View Post

these nos are indicative of how engine will perform.

look at top speed of both bikes. videos from brazil fz suggest top speed of 150+ on casual riding ( not doing top speed run on km long empty road).
for rtr i have seen 130 or so (casual riding) on youtube.

i feel power wise fz should feel noticeably better.

Indian FZ is a detuned version of Brazilian FZ.

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