Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

[abhi7013]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Please drain the oil ASAP!

Surprising that you continued using the mineral oil for so long. You overshot the range by 100% already.

Well, the engine was not showing any harshness so I thought it could be ok if I used it a bit more and kinda forgot about it! Lol. Shall change it this week.

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[Divya Sharan]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Thanks a lot for your advice Sharan, Before joining this forum I had read many of your posts here, Also this time I am planning to use AX7 Also, You said not to go for Pirelli, So other than that which one is best mate? Just called few shops and asked Pirelli is unavailable here

Also at 7k kms I got knocking sound and I changed tensioner and the chain sprocket was also worn, it caused me sound while riding, So I changed it too, is it normal or anything wrong with my bike?

Please advice

Thanks

Welcome to XBHP Daniel.

Thank you for the kind words. Glad I helped you in some way. I'm running on MRF Zapper Q 110/90-18 on the rear and stock MRF Zapper FS 80/100-18 up front. Changed the front tire a couple of days back and rear 2 months back. Both are hard compound tires (well almost, for the rear). Though the rear tire I fit is a tube type, but the sidewalls and the tire as a whole is made of hard rubber, hence I don't think they are as prone to punctures as a Pirelli for that matter.

Do read the Karizma-r thread too for info on tires. Aamir bhai changed both tires on his ZMA and chose CEAT products. Also, look up the thread dedicated to tires on the forum.

[snehithpereira]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Picture of the swingarm bush condition, the vibration had increased way too much and had no option but to replace the same.

Both bushes were jammed inside the swingarm (was told so by my mech), he says this is because of the water used to wash the bike, can someone please throw some light on this?

[AK3D]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Welcome to XBHP Daniel.

Thank you for the kind words. Glad I helped you in some way. I'm running on MRF Zapper Q 110/90-18 on the rear and stock MRF Zapper FS 80/100-18 up front. Changed the front tire a couple of days back and rear 2 months back. Both are hard compound tires (well almost, for the rear). Though the rear tire I fit is a tube type, but the sidewalls and the tire as a whole is made of hard rubber, hence I don't think they are as prone to punctures as a Pirelli for that matter.

Do read the Karizma-r thread too for info on tires. Aamir bhai changed both tires on his ZMA and chose CEAT products. Also, look up the thread dedicated to tires on the forum.

Using Ceat Zoom F and R, they are definitely medium compounds, and very grippy compared to earlier MRF. I'm happy with them so far.

Picture of the swingarm bush condition, the vibration had increased way too much and had no option but to replace the same.

Both bushes were jammed inside the swingarm (was told so by my mech), he says this is because of the water used to wash the bike, can someone please throw some light on this?

If it was well greased, doubt it was a water issue. This may have however been due to rust build up over time and vibrations rubbing off material in the long run.
I have an odd wobbling issue, which pops up at times, I'm going to check if it's due to the swingarm or cone set soon.
[MENTION=66169]Daniel16[/MENTION] - also check whether the rubber holders on the rear tyre (ones that go inside the alloy) aren't broken, if so, they will cause vibrations and a 'knocking' sound as well.

[abhi7013]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Needed a mobile holder for my bike for using the gps. So ordered one from flipkart.
The only portion that this would fit into was the back of the visor, above the speedo. It does sit firmly but when you ride, even a slight bump makes it wobble sideways.
Then I found another part which lets you to fix it to the ac grills of the car. So I took this part and fixed it into the grooves present on the sides of the speedo and stuck it permanently there with m-seal and also quick glue to areas where m-seal could not reach.


Now all I need to do is plonk in the mobile holder to the grooves of the part which I had just stuck.



The right side holders are slided a bit down to allow the free moving of the handle bar. Now even a u-turn can be made without the handle bar touching the holder or the cell. Just went for a quick ride and was happy to note that the mobile does not vibrate much and even messages can be read clearly! But obviously that's not the application. Using the gps is now far more easy.

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[shivakrish]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I am Back by the way.. is this the tire that you were talking about?? the rear tire that you were using as front tire?? bro.. you took a bigger risk than I did..

I finally got the rear tire changed.. to Zapper Q 110/90-18.. wasn't sure if it is a Tubeless or Tube Type.. I am using it as a Tubeless at the moment and when I get a chance.. I will change it to Tube Type.. got the Tire and the tube for 2150/- in Delhi Karol Bagh..





Got the Oil Leaking issue fixed.. the Drain Bolt had a crack on it due to which the Oil was leaking. Topped up the Oil as well after changing the Drain Bolt.





Finally.. Got myself a new LS2 helmet cost me 2700/- could have got it for a little cheaper price.. but damn..



Well.. another thing I did during these 10 days was.. got a chance to finally attend the Delhi G2G last Sunday.. had a wonderful time with @prateek2210 got to meet @The Monk as well.. it was a pleasure meeting the guys in person..

Got a chance to see some SBKs

While waiting for Prateek bhai early morning on Sunday 7:32 AM.. he was 2 minutes late



Some of the SBKs and some of the bikes





Got the xBhp sticker on the visor of my Black Pearl.. Looks wonderful and also got "El Shaddai" on the visor.. meaning "The Saviour"



and got the visor a 3D Vinyl Treatment..

Feels Good to be back

Woow Bro gr8 mods and news !! yu are BACK with a BANG !!

[Divya Sharan]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Needed a mobile holder for my bike for using the gps. So ordered one from flipkart. Using the gps is now far more easy.

Congrats. Sadly, there is no option for my 5.9 inch phablet. No big holders available.

[shivakrish]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Using Ceat Zoom F and R, they are definitely medium compounds, and very grippy compared to earlier MRF. I'm happy with them so far.

can you throw more light on your them, like What Profile are both the tires ?? and for how long have you been using it ??

If possible, pls post few pics of ur tyres

[abhi7013]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

[MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION]
Thats the max it can expand.

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[AK3D]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Woow Bro gr8 mods and news !! yu are BACK with a BANG !!

Could you please edit your post so all images are not quoted as well?
Thanks!

Tyre info all there in the ZMA thread

Edit : [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] beat me to it.

[Divya Sharan]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

can you throw more light on your them, like What Profile are both the tires ?? and for how long have you been using it ??

If possible, pls post few pics of ur tyres

Here - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ma-r-1545.html

All credit goes to [MENTION=52772]AK3D[/MENTION] for assembling info in one place.

Read from here - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ma-r-1517.html to the link above.

[AK3D]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Here - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ma-r-1545.html

All credit goes to @AK3D for assembling info in one place.

Read from here - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ma-r-1517.html to the link above.

Thank you [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] for being so helpful.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4805-tyres-561.html#post1000688

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/4845-karizma-karizma-r-1510.html#post995233

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/4845-karizma-karizma-r-1517.html#post997429

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/4845-karizma-karizma-r-1520.html#post998125

One thing I would like to add is that Ceat is the only tyre company that bothered to respond to my queries and their senior manager in Gujarat himself took time off to guide me through options and compounds. They must deal in thousands of tyres, but such a response for the end user impressed me no end. I wrote Michelin with my queries about the Sirac Street and never got a reply so I crossed it off my list (that, and all the negative reviews).

The same thing goes for NGK, when I reported I was having issues with my G Power, the local rep for NGK arrived himself, helped me fit in the G Power, tested it etc. They even sent it back to the factory for testing where it came back with a clean chit. Again, the NGK representative here came over personally. Now, if for a simple spark plug, the company can help a person and take so much time, there is no doubt they do care about their users.

[psr]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Am doing 3500kms with r3x and I can feel the vibes increase. But not significantly. Apart from that there is still no heatin issues and engine sound is the same even after long city rides. Am planning a 1500 kms round trip in jan. So decided to change oil only then. And I don't have college now. Just exams. So ill be doing another 250 kms this month thats it. So oil will be changed after approx 3750kms of usage. Satisfied with rimula

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Oh wow !!! please change the oil at 2~2.5 K and not more than that...I am yet to ascertain it's property beyond that mark and so wouldn't advice a Mineral being used for so long..

Once I did complete 1700+ kms but the bike was harsh and the smoothness had vanished by then.. the oil when drained was completely dark and if I hadn't changed the oil, it could have even ceased the engine (a fear in my mind)

which bikes was Mobil1 FS used? any idea on the Oil Grade sir?

No the engine will not have a seizure...the Rimula contains high level of Detergents and ZDDP which is more than enough to protect the engine from having friction or lack of lube flow...in fact many have expressed surprise to see the oil in good color without burn deposits even after 1,500 Kms in the second change ,which I think is primarily due to the oil's ability...
The MOBIL 1 was FS 10w40.

You are being far too kind sir

Engine behavior vise, I would say that compared to the R3X the R4 managed to keep the vibes down for a longer period(about 150-200kms more)

Thanks for the update and Knowledge share.

No bro I did not drain it. Its the same oil for 3500 kms. Am not noticing any harshness. Just few vibes. The level was a bit low so I had topped it up at about 1k kms back thats it.
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Please do change it at the earliest and change Rimula at 2~2.5 K Kms at the most.

In my stint with the 22k odd kms with Rimula, I used R3X for 4k odd kms and 18k with R4, I found R4 better in terms of longetivity. Nothing else.

I drained R3X 3 times, once at 1k kms, 2nd at 1.2k kms and 3rd at approx 1.8k kms. Drain at 1k was futile as the oil was almost like new. Light brown.
OTOH, R4 had drain intervals from 1.5k to 2.2k kms. The engine starts getting harsh post 2k kms.

Comparing the same with AX7, it is good till 2.5k kms and post 3k kms, the motor becomes harsh. I suggested Sriram sir last year to move from Motul 7100 FS to Mobil1 when he was going on an AP/Odisha tour with Yuvraj/Jafar and clan.

Mobil1 FS 10w40 is an excellent oil and costs close to 900 rupees (may vary, my data is from last year) and lasts for a good 4k kms. At max 4.5k kms, but I don't prefer taking risks. Its highly recommended for serious tourers who'd be doing 2k+ kms on a single trip as carrying oil can be a pain. But mathematically, AX7 works out to be 30% cheaper and gives a good performance for a petrol engine oil.

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Please drain the oil ASAP!

Surprising that you continued using the mineral oil for so long. You overshot the range by 100% already.

Another detailed review and good share from you Divya...

I am grateful to all for sharing so much useful Knowledge in the past posts on oil and other subjects , and Happy to be amongst such members...

[red_karizma_zmr]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Did another 150 km highway ride today. Awesome. The bike feels rock-solid. Initially, @ around 200km, when I took out my bike for my 1st highway outing, it'd wobble horribly @ speeds of 70+. But, now after 1300km, it has become rock solid & feels firmly planted on the ground even @ 100+. The bike has become more vibration-free now. But, I wonder if it needed a 6th gear. One can feel too much screaming from the engine @ speeds of 100+. But, thats where the 223cc helps I guess.

Now, it feels like below 90 speeds are puny for this bike. 100+ is where it belongs to. Also, u don't know when u hit those speeds until u see the speedo. But, the ZMR does 115 with ease. After that, It'll take its own sweet time to reach higher speeds. Its like 116...117....118....119... Reached 121 kmph today.

Also, I heard that during cold temp., the bikes power output actually remains unharmed. While during hot temp, the bike's actual power o/p decreases. Is it true? That explains why I'm finding my ZMR to be extra powerful these days.

P.S.: Saw an R15 v2.0 rider stopping his bike on the side of the highway & stretching out his back & neck muscles while I zoomed past him. lol

[sounakray]

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

P.S.: Saw an R15 v2.0 rider stopping his bike on the side of the highway & stretching out his back & neck muscles while I zoomed past him. lol

This is precisely the reason why I rejected the R15 v2, even though it was initially my primary choice The 6th cog is a really important addition though!

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