Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

[gajah_gendut]

@lakhanironak

congrats bro

enjoy your night riding

[sajjt]

I have Successfully Converted my bike's Electricals From AC to DC.

I have followed whatever gajah_gendut and sajjt told me. Also inputs from Shreeni0403 n princesirohi helped me a lot.

I thankyou'll for all the guidance.

Its really nice to hear that u've sorted out the batt issues with APE RR. Do the relay installation for Halogen too, as its 55W which can do damage to ur stock switch.

I just came across with the GC1000 RR having a batt monitor but there's one more pin to be identified, its got 6 pins out of which 2 grey for AC, Yellow for batt charging, one red near to the grey for batt monitoring, what about the other red, still to identify. I've a GC 1000, if I get time, I'll check out and say.

[princesirohi]

@lakhanironak: congrats man......as i was earlier thinking of trying HH Ambition's RR unit but its not available in pune . the next thing i searched for is GC1000 RR and it costs around same Rs. 1100.00/=, and that additional battery monitor wire is not of much use yaar, coz.....where to connect it? so there is not much benefit of GC1000 RR.

also i couldn't get the APE RR on sunday, so i will purchase the same on friday. till then my stock RR is doing pretty much OK, coz it is happily giving me around 2 hours of night riding....so i m not in that much urgency now. so i will do it on friday

there is one more thing we can try and that is pulsar UG4 RR unit. i guess it has 5 wires in it, two incoming wires from coil, two outgoing for battery charging and one for battery monitor just like GC1000 RR.

but even UG4 RR is not easy to find in stores, since it is pretty new.


and yes GC1000 does sound like a monster bike, and just add RR to it, and it becomes GC1000-RR. monster bike from BAJAJ

[road_ripper]

@lakhanironak: congrats man......as i was earlier thinking of trying HH Ambition's RR unit but its not available in pune . the next thing i searched for is GC1000 RR and it costs around same Rs. 1100.00/=, and that additional battery monitor wire is not of much use yaar, coz.....where to connect it? so there is not much benefit of GC1000 RR.

also i couldn't get the APE RR on sunday, so i will purchase the same on friday. till then my stock RR is doing pretty much OK, coz it is happily giving me around 2 hours of night riding....so i m not in that much urgency now. so i will do it on friday

there is one more thing we can try and that is pulsar UG4 RR unit. i guess it has 5 wires in it, two incoming wires from coil, two outgoing for battery charging and one for battery monitor just like GC1000 RR.

but even UG4 RR is not easy to find in stores, since it is pretty new.


and yes GC1000 does sound like a monster bike, and just add RR to it, and it becomes GC1000-RR. monster bike from BAJAJ

Buddy, why dont you try the Avenger coil?? part number DV 111005, its direct fit to the current ug3 and has head light coil generating 55W power so disconnect the charging coil completely and connect only the headlight coil by a Custom made Regulator cum rectifier unit to the battery, it must be sufficient to charge the battery and also take care of the HID..

[lakhanironak]

@ALL : Thankyou. Its a pleasure after conversion. When you can self start the bike in the morning, without cursing yourself for using the HID the previous night, u really feel it was worth taking all the risk in doing the conversion. It gives a lot of relief, eventually you would even forget that your running on DC, all the electricals suddenly just seem to run better than ever. Moreover you would stop using your horn in the night, if uve got a halogen/HID type bulb, just flick it to the halogen and the HID becomes your new horn, just flash the HID and people will give you way. In a way, it reduces noise pollution.

@princesirohi : go for the APE RR, dont worry about the overcharging, you can use the excess charge by using your Pilot Lamps during the day.

Now im in plans of installing the projector. Gotta source one from somewhere. A fellow xbhpian and friend got the custom made lights for his r15, those lights have four projectors with angel eyes, ofcource those projectors are meant for h7 bulbs. Im looking for something that can fit in a h4.

[princesirohi]

yesterday i purchased an APE RR unit and connected it to the light coils, added two switched in between coil and RR unit so that i can shut off additional charging whenever i want and the the output of RR unit is connected to battery through a 10 Amp Fuse for additional safety. the black wire of APE RR unit is connected to ground.

stock RR is kept as it is....and both the RR's charge the battery in parallel.

[abhijeet080808]

yesterday i purchased an APE RR unit and connected it to the light coils, added two switched in between coil and RR unit so that i can shut off additional charging whenever i want and the the output of RR unit is connected to battery through a 10 Amp Fuse for additional safety. the black wire of APE RR unit is connected to ground.

stock RR is kept as it is....and both the RR's charge the battery in parallel.

All that is well but don't operate the switch with the engine running. Has something to do with the inductance of the charging coil. Even putting a switch there is not such a good idea.

[pavanchirmade]

Buddy, why dont you try the Avenger coil?? part number DV 111005, its direct fit to the current ug3 and has head light coil generating 55W power so disconnect the charging coil completely and connect only the headlight coil by a Custom made Regulator cum rectifier unit to the battery, it must be sufficient to charge the battery and also take care of the HID..

I am running the same setup. Avenger Coil on a P180UG3 with a 35watt HID and everything's running good. Horn works good, headlamp lights up and even the starter works without any issues at all. I have been using this setup for 1500kms now. I haven't disconnected the original charging line. I have just cut the AC headlight wire, connected to a KBPC3510 and the output of the KBPC3510 to the battery so that there is an additional 55w charging line.

[princesirohi]

All that is well but don't operate the switch with the engine running. Has something to do with the inductance of the charging coil. Even putting a switch there is not such a good idea.

hey can u explain what can be the problem with inductance?

[road_ripper]

I am running the same setup. Avenger Coil on a P180UG3 with a 35watt HID and everything's running good. Horn works good, headlamp lights up and even the starter works without any issues at all. I have been using this setup for 1500kms now. I haven't disconnected the original charging line. I have just cut the AC headlight wire, connected to a KBPC3510 and the output of the KBPC3510 to the battery so that there is an additional 55w charging line.

What is KBPC3510 buddy?? if that is some custom made circuit then could u please let me know with a picture because even i want to make this HID conversion soon without affecting my battery. How does this circuit take care of the overcharging issue these guys are talking about??

[Shreeni0403]

What is KBPC3510 buddy?? if that is some custom made circuit then could u please let me know with a picture because even i want to make this HID conversion soon without affecting my battery. How does this circuit take care of the overcharging issue these guys are talking about??

AFAIK its a rectifier readily available in electronic shops

[pavanchirmade]

@road_ripper yes it is a packaged bridge rectifier that can handle 35A max... costs just Rs.30

[sajjt]

my 2 cents

[princesirohi]

yesterday i purchased an APE RR unit and connected it to the light coils, added two switched in between coil and RR unit so that i can shut off additional charging whenever i want and the the output of RR unit is connected to battery through a 10 Amp Fuse for additional safety. the black wire of APE RR unit is connected to ground.

stock RR is kept as it is....and both the RR's charge the battery in parallel.

my set up is running fine....for a 2 hours night riding, the drop in battery voltage is about 0.25 Volts, so if battery is at 14.0 Volts it gives me 16 hours night riding back up, which is excellent. and in the day time it gets recharged again.
i switch on the additional charging only when i m using HID.

my set up is working fine.

All that is well but don't operate the switch with the engine running. Has something to do with the inductance of the charging coil. Even putting a switch there is not such a good idea.

when i switch ON the additional charging, engine is strained a little bit, although small but it is noticeable... i can feel that engine is loaded a little bit, so in daytime i simply switch OFF that additional charging, so engine is not strained in daytime. i don't think switch can be a problem.

@abhijeet: can u explain what can be the problem.

my 2 cents

@ sajjt: but that is just a rectifier, so won't it be applying high voltage directly to battery, isn't is dangerous.

[sajjt]

@ sajjt: but that is just a rectifier, so won't it be applying high voltage directly to battery, isn't is dangerous.

Dude, I was just giving a pic for road ripper, one fellow member was referring it to feed the stock light out thru this, not like u stated. If u read that post once again u'll get that.