Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

Sorry sir, but I'm not the right person to be troubleshooting or suggesting something for a complicated (for me atleast) problem like yours. I'm still learning. Sorry, couldn't be of much use to you.

[drvmtm]

ok, will check as per your step by step procedure - only few things i wanna stress-

• battery is already tested by battery shop and charged by them perfectly, it hold charge perfectly for 4-5 days without using headlights, and with using starter. battery shop checked and recharged the battery and said it is ok. even i checked with multimeter. connected my multimeter to battery, it shows like12.2 v then i start the bike using starter, momentarily the battery voltage drops to 10.XX volts and then regains 12.15 or so and in about a minute or so is back to 12.2 volts. i think that is how it should behave.

you know you presume too much,.stop right here.

YOUR CHARGING IS NOT HAPPENING,the voltage is telling the story,take out the stator ,rewind it and put it back.

a fully charged batt will start increasing voltage as soon you start the engine from 12+to 13-14 or so.

[rprathin]

Sorry to hear that again u lost the RR. There's nothing hi funda thing in this bike so I am sure that there should be some serious wiring issue in the circuit else, it won't go like in series.

I don't know what to say, all the things to be taken into are already discussed. Still, lets go by step by step once again. Don't skip any of these steps thinking that its right on ur bike. Ok.

First things first, check the battery condition in a battery service center, they'll check the battery for any internal shorting if any. If they say its ok, lets start.

Dismantle all the add ons before we start the troubleshooting. We need a blank slate to start with. So disconnect the battery +ve terminal, remove the stock RR if any. Now the battery is isolated and free to go.

1. We'll start from the coil, u said its generating power, still for the sake of peace of mind, open it and check for any irregularities after taking out the coil. Also check the continuity of the coils with body.

2. Now kick start the bike and take readings from the coil, it should be not less than 30V @1K and not less than 90V above 3K.

3. Set the idle speed to 3K and switch off

4. Bolt the RR to any secured place where enough air passage and grounding to the chassis available. In my case I've bolted to the stock RR slot with the same bolt. From UG3 onwards the location changed so find a suitable location under the seat itself. Connect the black wire from the RR to the bolt.

5. Take out coil ends with a new pair of thick wires without using the harness free wires. Connect it to the RR and insulate it properly. Connect the yellow wire from RR to the battery +ve post. Do not connect any other load to the battery.

6. Start the bike, check the RR for any over heating at the rpm, it should be fine with this rpm normally. Now check the voltage at battery terminals, it should be 13-14.5V range. If that part is ok, proceed with charging rate measurement. If the battery is fully charged, u wont get much readings, so connect a 55W HL bulb with fresh wires (do not use the harness loom for testing) to the battery posts and measure again. Now it should show the actual pumping rates with the load.

If its showing healthy charging rates, DC part is ok and now you've check the other tappings and loops etc,one by one.

Lets have the updates

Hope this helps.

hi sajjt
thanks for all help
yesterday my battery discharged and then i tested the charging rates but the charging rates were 4 amps at full throttle.. now i had putted pulsars coil which has 8 pole 3 poles more from peps coil i had winded pulsar's coil with the 21 gauge wire so that the length of the winding should also increase with less gaps.....
thanksss

[joshdsy]

Hi
I am planning to convert my cbz classic to full dc. If i were to use a pulsar ug4 rr and convert the speedo and indicator lights to led would i b able to avoid rewinding the coil ? Does any 1 have an idea on what is amp output of a cbz classic alternator ?

[shoeb2015]

Hi
I am planning to convert my cbz classic to full dc. If i were to use a pulsar ug4 rr and convert the speedo and indicator lights to led would i b able to avoid rewinding the coil ? Does any 1 have an idea on what is amp output of a cbz classic alternator ?

If you wish to have stock bulbs then its fine,you can use a UG4 RR.
but if you are going for higher wattage bulbs then rewinding + Ape RR is a must.

[joshdsy]

If you wish to have stock bulbs then its fine,you can use a UG4 RR.
but if you are going for higher wattage bulbs then rewinding + Ape RR is a must.

How about a 35 watt hid on a 5 amp battery?
I mostly travel in the city. But now and then i do longer trips. Im trying to get the best lighting i can get wit touching the least amount of wiring/internals(coil) in a reasonable budget. Im not too big on the looks more about functionality.
I read your tread where you were trying to add a hid to a 100 cc bike. is it possible just by plonking in a pulsar ug4 rr and 5 amp battery and not touching the lights in the speedo ? Sorry for all the questions but of late iv gotten into tinkering with my bike ... and its addictive least to say.

[joshdsy]

Also a friend of mine has an old kinetic.. would we b able to convert it to full dc.. its just a side project for the fun of it.. I think it has a 5amp or 7 amp battery .

[shoeb2015]

How about a 35 watt hid on a 5 amp battery?

There's no problem in running a 35w HID on 5ah batt.
A 7/9 Ah battery would provide you little more back-up in B2B traffic at low rpms if charging rates are not good
but
if the charging rates are good then even a 4ah battery would do your job !!!.

BTW, Does your cbz have a self-start ?

[joshdsy]

There's no problem in running a 35w HID on 5ah batt.
A 7/9 Ah battery would provide you little more back-up in B2B traffic at low rpms if charging rates are not good
but
if the charging rates are good then even a 4ah battery would do your job !!!.

BTW, Does your cbz have a self-start ?

Unfortunately not its a 2001 model i picked up last year from a friend who did 28k in 10 years... it has a 2.5 amp battery which I shall change so if i manage a 7-9 amp battery in there with a pulsar ug 4 rr and no other changes will it manage a 35 watt hid? or would i be pushing it. read some where some guy on a splendor plonked a 9amp battery in and a hid on stock rr and he claims it works fine..

[shoeb2015]

Unfortunately not its a 2001 model i picked up last year from a friend who did 28k in 10 years... it has a 2.5 amp battery which I shall change so if i manage a 7-9 amp battery in there with a pulsar ug 4 rr and no other changes will it manage a 35 watt hid? or would i be pushing it. read some where some guy on a splendor plonked a 9amp battery in and a hid on stock rr and he claims it works fine..

Here is a thread where Above_all successfully
converted his passion to full DC.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/20637-electrical-modification-hero-honda-passion.html

A 7ah batt.should fit more easily with little modification but fitting a 9ah shouldn't be that difficult.

Just post a picture of the coil here and we shall help you out as much as possible .

[joshdsy]

Here is a thread where Above_all successfully
converted his passion to full DC.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/20637-electrical-modification-hero-honda-passion.html

A 7ah batt.should fit more easily with little modification but fitting a 9ah shouldn't be that difficult.

Just post a picture of the coil here and we shall help you out as much as possible .

Actually I had inquired about the coil rewind earlier but im trying to touch the least amount of electrical s. I had posted earlier in the cbz classic ownership tread and got a reply if u go back a few pages there are some pics of the coil and the results. Heres a link to the reply i got :- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post664834

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

Unfortunately not its a 2001 model i picked up last year from a friend who did 28k in 10 years... it has a 2.5 amp battery which I shall change so if i manage a 7-9 amp battery in there with a pulsar ug 4 rr and no other changes will it manage a 35 watt hid? or would i be pushing it. read some where some guy on a splendor plonked a 9amp battery in and a hid on stock rr and he claims it works fine..

You both continue, I'm saving my comment for later

[joshdsy]

Well looks like i found my answer.. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post572008
I will have to rewind.. well looks like i will have to fiddle with the wiring and get the ape rr.. I don't have that budget as of now.. Im on a sabbatical for a year doing further studies.. Thanks for all the help shoeb2015. sorry if i wasted your time.

[shoeb2015]

Well looks like i found my answer.. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post572008
I will have to rewind.. well looks like i will have to fiddle with the wiring and get the ape rr.. I don't have that budget as of now.. Im on a sabbatical for a year doing further studies.. Thanks for all the help shoeb2015. sorry if i wasted your time.

AFAIK,Rewinding is not necessary on a cbz classic if you are using a 35watt hid.
Post a picture of the stator coil so that we can confirm if rewinding is not necessary.

[shoeb2015]

You both continue, I'm saving my comment for later

You wont get any interest on saving your comment in a bank

Post what you have to say .