Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

[sandeepcf]

can try with a 19g wire & and i had not counted the original no. of turns per pole

Sure, you will have no problems with 19g. Since you need more current I mentioned 18.5 and 18 which are thicker than 19g.

[shinilk]

Hi Guys, thank you all for the vast info provided. I am noobie to the Xbhp, and had been reading all along for quite a few days about HID/DC conversion before signing up. I have already installed 35/35 Iikdo HID kit on my Apache 150, and as expected there is battery drain problem. Trying my shot at coil rewinding this Monday and will post my queries then. Thanks

[rprathin]

6A at startup or after proper warming up?
At startup 6A can be considered normal for a HID.
If its consuming 6A even after warming up you can just change your ballast with a good quality one else rewind + APE RR would give you more than 7A with a 17AWG wire.
1st try to swap the ballast and see...

If you have used a cheap Chinese meter readings will be wrong/inaccurate.
If you have used cheap Chinese Hid then it uses more than 5 amps most of the time.

Did you measure the no. of turns per each pole of the original winding?
Because no. of turns is proportional to Voltage and thickness of the wire is proportional to Current.
In rewinding you should maintain the no. of turns intact or atleast close to the original number so that the idle voltage doesn't drop. Also you should choose the maximum thickness of the wire that allows you the same no. of turns.
Try 18 or 18.5 AWG.

winding done and i had fitted it the results were very good i was getting more than 6 amps... around 7.69
now going to do winding with 17 awg on pulsar

[rprathin]

@Abhijeet Bhattacharjee
done the winding using 18 awg wire now i will post the readings....
but on idle with 17 awg wire i was getting 8 volts and so i have planned to do winding with 18 awg wire and at idle rpm i was getting 12 volts...

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

@Abhijeet Bhattacharjee
done the winding using 18 awg wire now i will post the readings....
but on idle with 17 awg wire i was getting 8 volts and so i have planned to do winding with 18 awg wire and at idle rpm i was getting 12 volts...

most bikes give around 10V at idling, so if its around 10V @ idling with a 17 or 18 AWG, stick to it. good to know that you're getting 7+ A

[rprathin]

most bikes give around 10V at idling, so if its around 10V @ idling with a 17 or 18 AWG, stick to it. good to know that you're getting 7+ A

just tell me one thing that if there is a supply of 50 v AC from the stator coil, and this volts will be regulated to 14v by the ape rr then what will happen to the remaining 36v.....
will it be used to increase the amps or it will go waste

[sajjt]

just tell me one thing that if there is a supply of 50 v AC from the stator coil, and this volts will be regulated to 14v by the ape rr then what will happen to the remaining 36v.....
will it be used to increase the amps or it will go waste

The only way u can utilize the excess voltage is to connect a 110V incandescent bulb before the RR

Jokes apart, what u need is 12V so just focus on that As long as its not in the usable range it has to go by shunting and that's what the RR does, it can't compensate it to any other ways.

Hey u r over loading the engine I guess, hows the performance now?

[rprathin]

The only way u can utilize the excess voltage is to connect a 110V incandescent bulb before the RR

Jokes apart, what u need is 12V so just focus on that As long as its not in the usable range it has to go by shunting and that's what the RR does, it can't compensate it to any other ways.

Hey u r over loading the engine I guess, hows the performance now?

y r u saying i am overloading the engine i had just done the rewinding although the performance is alright..

[rajaselvam_1987]

Guys nowadays Discover is coming in full DC Why don't we use the RR of the discover instead of APE or Pulsar.
and what about the FZ-16 RR

[gmagesh14]

Guys nowadays Discover is coming in full DC Why don't we use the RR of the discover instead of APE or Pulsar.
and what about the FZ-16 RR

will work for sure if they are of full wave...

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

Guys nowadays Discover is coming in full DC Why don't we use the RR of the discover instead of APE or Pulsar.
and what about the FZ-16 RR

we don't use discover's RR because it pumps less amps compared to pulsars because unlike pulsars the discover lights cannot be operated with the engine off, means less battery drain which relates to lower amps used for charging

[rajaselvam_1987]

we don't use discover's RR because it pumps less amps compared to pulsars because unlike pulsars the discover lights cannot be operated with the engine off, means less battery drain which relates to lower amps used for charging

What about the FZ's RR, bcz i've seen a FZ stator coil that too having 12poles like in my twister

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

What about the FZ's RR, bcz i've seen a FZ stator coil that too having 12poles like in my twister

no idea about FZ's RR dude... sorry!!!

[rprathin]

most bikes give around 10V at idling, so if its around 10V @ idling with a 17 or 18 AWG, stick to it. good to know that you're getting 7+ A

The only way u can utilize the excess voltage is to connect a 110V incandescent bulb before the RR

Jokes apart, what u need is 12V so just focus on that As long as its not in the usable range it has to go by shunting and that's what the RR does, it can't compensate it to any other ways.

Hey u r over loading the engine I guess, hows the performance now?

Sure, you will have no problems with 19g. Since you need more current I mentioned 18.5 and 18 which are thicker than 19g.

on pulsar i had done winding with the 18 swg wire but below 2k rpm i am not getting above 3amps i want 6 amps at idling other wise battery will drain because my hid is consuming 6 amps and here in Varanasi traffic is great problem at night, would 17 swg wire would solve my problem but with thicker wire the volt will also be less so what to do......

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

on pulsar i had done winding with the 18 swg wire but below 2k rpm i am not getting above 3amps i want 6 amps at idling other wise battery will drain because my hid is consuming 6 amps and here in Varanasi traffic is great problem at night, would 17 swg wire would solve my problem but with thicker wire the volt will also be less so what to do......

6A at idling??? :O
dude... 3A at idling means you'll get more than 6A current >4000 revs... why do you want 6A at idling? :O