Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[Shreeni0403]

got the DC conversion done from Ruby electricals yesterday.. and also got bulb replaced.. but my bad luck couldn't get the H3 bulb.. the shop guy gave me an H7.. he actually chipped of the extra plastic part so that it can be placed in H3 holder..
But i don find it to be as bright as before!!! is it due to the bulb or due to my battery... [haven't replaced the battery still]
i don think the bulb is placed inside the projector completely..

I guess you have the Skoda Fog Lamp Projector !!! With a 55w Halogen in it, you will be riding in candle light. H3 bulbs are easily available in market.

[sajjt]

got the DC conversion done from Ruby electricals yesterday.. and also got bulb replaced.. but my bad luck couldn't get the H3 bulb.. the shop guy gave me an H7.. he actually chipped of the extra plastic part so that it can be placed in H3 holder..
But i don find it to be as bright as before!!! is it due to the bulb or due to my battery... [haven't replaced the battery still]
i don think the bulb is placed inside the projector completely..

I guess, after replacing the capsule the flickering part is over.

Now, what if a H3 replaced by a H7?

Let me ask you one thing
I am no expert here but still, Can u replace a 150 Cyl Assy with a 180 without any mod? I guess its not a bolt on job.

Its just like that only, here also. Both are meant for different optics and the dia too are different. Have a look:

This is H3 Halogen Vs H3 HID:


Compare the filament positions of both bulb, its almost in the same line.


H3 HID Vs H7 HID


Here also watch out for the glowing portions, H7 has got a lengthy tube and the glowing portion is bit more far than the H3 HID. So in effect, ur projector is not letting out all the light due to incorrect focus due to the wrong bulb.

The grease monk has done a very pathetic job for u, u could've compare both the bulb and proceed these juggad. Ask him to replace the bulb with a H3 if possible else, put some spacers before the bulb into the socket to adjust the extra length to get a nearest focus, provided if there's enough space for a few spacers.

BTW, what about the DC conversion? Can u make some elaborated account on what all components are used for this, how, total cost, any backup issues etc.

[sajjt]

Actually, its the other way round. The RR unit will try to pump more current to the weak battery in a bid to charge it up.

But, with the engine OFF, a weak battery may do less damage.

Hi Abhi, long time...

Ok, if the RR tries to push more amps too, it will top up the battery very fast since its weak, it wont hold the charge anymore right? I find it more safe to play with a weak one to play around, its more convenient to read the pushing rates and it wont do much harm like a fresh one can.

With Relay?
Once in my splendor+ 7 years back, I tried to put 60/55 watts bulb by putting a relay.The local mechanics call it as "cutout"
In 2 days itself the bulb was fused,its rr unit and the cutout was burnt(I was able to smell the burnt wires connected to the rr unit).It was a very costly affair to again switch to stock electricals
So a relay on Hero Honda bikes is not of any use

There's no way a higher rated bulb can smoke the RR as its not loading the RR evenif its connected to the battery. COuld be a wrong connection, your statement on burned wires indicates it. The starter motor is exerting much more than 500W load, nothing happens to RR except, frequent cranking with inadequate charging will leads to flat battery.

In Hero Honda models,Only Karizma and Ambition are bikes which have AC+DC setup hence you can put 60/55 watts bulb and a battery of slight high amp rating in case of 100/90 watts bulb

Both these are full DC bikes. Only on ZMA a higher rated bulb can withstand without any battery issues, even guys are using 90/100W for touring at the expense of melted optics.

Ambition wont support a 55/60W as the charging rates are limited to 35W.

Also you can do one thing
Just check whether Avenger 180 stator coil is identical with Hunk or not.
If both are identical,then you can surely put avenger coil in Hunk or similar bike.

How can it be practical, just compare the size of their stator cover size, you'll come to know of it.

BTW, Hunk is run by a AMI(Is it TCI?) system IIRC where as the Avy 180 runs on conventional CDI, how will u match?

If it doesnt match then only one option is to convert your bike in DC.Coil rewinding doesnt work properly hence not recommended

I guess you have some confusion in this part.

To support a higher rated bulb, first and not the least u need to have a powerful alternator anything before DC conversion. If u do the DC conversion first, the battery power will be utilized along with the rpm falls and soon it will get flat due to insufficient charging rates. The stock ratings are on the basis of 35W HL and other requirements.

Hi Guys.
I ve got P180 UG4.
I had actually fitted the H4 HID, which had an halogen.
I had connected the halogen to low beam and HID to high beam.
The base of the H4 is broken.The three extensions at the base are removed.Hence it s not resting properly in my pulsar s headlight.
The beam is going to the top and s focussing on the trees

The real problem now is, my indicators wont work anymore.Also electric start is not working.being a Ug4 180, i m void of even the kick starter.
Any idea wat the problem could be.

Did it with the help of a Professional mech. He s very far off my place.Anything which i can do myself?

Update: Indicators have started working.Only that the electric start is not working.
Thanks in Advance!

At the outset, I would say get rid of the HID capsule and go for a replacement. The 3 tabs on the H4 is to ensure the proper seating of the bulb within the reflector socket for getting proper beam spread and for the bulbs life. You are literally blinding everyone in front of you by using it which is very dangerous to others and to u as well. It wont cost u a bomb.

If ur heart 's too heavy to get rid of the bulb, consider searching the accessory shops who are dealing with HID kits. They may have the different bulb base compatible rings which are mainly meant for bikes. I guess u can stick the plates to the existing bulb and use it as normal one.

This is the one am referring to:



BTW, how did u managed to break all three

There are chances of faulty BCU, try to swap with another one and check the integrity. Before that, disconnect the HID, a faulty ballast can also do enough damage to the electricals.

[honey5266]

need help from parking bulbs....

hi friends, i need your in installing a Philips Blue Vision White Light Parking Bulbs of 12v 5w 4000k as parking lamp on my cbz xtreme..

can any one tell from where i can get this, in mumbai and wht cost plzplzplz

[Prakritij]

just a little query here
I am going to purchase a pair of 35W H4-2 hi-Xenon lo-Halogen bulbs of 3000k to replace the OEM bulbs of my R15. The bulbs will come with ballasts and wiring.
1> Will they be a direct fit?
also as mentioned by a fellow Xbhpian in earlier posts, without projectors the light spread from the existing reflectors will be a difficulty for oncoming vehicles.
2> so where can I get projectors for H4 bulbs in the market? and
3> what will be the price of projectors?
4> most importantly, how can I fit the projectors in the Headlight assembly of my Bike?(can it be a DIY?)

sorry for such questions as I am not well versed with electricals

Please Help
Thank You



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[The Monk]

Hi
I am planning to do the dual beam HID mod on my 220 as shown by rahuldevnath. I have a few queries which I would be glad if someone could answer them-
1. Bi xenon's are HID's which have hi and low beam in one bulb? So that the pass light can be used through the low beam only.
2. Is there an H7 4300k slim ballast bi xenon bulb available in the market, which I can use on the low beam? If yes which company and how much will it cost?
3. How much will a regular slim ballast H7 4300k bulb cost, which I can use on the hi beam?
4. How much do LED's 1W cost, which I can use in the pilot lamps and for the number plate lamp?
5. Can I use this setup of a bi-xenon in my low beam for flashing and a regular HID on my upper beam? Is this feasible and what would be the cost I am looking at?

Also I would like to add that I am a newbie when it comes to technical stuff, so a layman's reply would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

[Prakritij]

Hi
I am planning to do the dual beam HID mod on my 220 as shown by rahuldevnath. I have a few queries which I would be glad if someone could answer them-
1. Bi xenon's are HID's which have hi and low beam in one bulb? So that the pass light can be used through the low beam only.
2. Is there an H7 4300k slim ballast bi xenon bulb available in the market, which I can use on the low beam? If yes which company and how much will it cost?
3. How much will a regular slim ballast H7 4300k bulb cost, which I can use on the hi beam?
4. How much do LED's 1W cost, which I can use in the pilot lamps and for the number plate lamp?
5. Can I use this setup of a bi-xenon in my low beam for flashing and a regular HID on my upper beam? Is this feasible and what would be the cost I am looking at?

Also I would like to add that I am a newbie when it comes to technical stuff, so a layman's reply would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

came across some items in the net hope they will solve your query for HIDs and Pilot LEDs

Xenon HID Headlight Kit Slim Ballast H7 4300K 35W 12V | eBay
T10 0.25W 7-LED 6500K 30-Lumen White Light Bulbs for Car (DC 12V/Pair) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
T10 1.2W 6500K 70-Lumen 5-SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

I too am a newbie so can't help further. Infact looking for help myself



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[Noor]

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[sajjt]

Hi
I am planning to do the dual beam HID mod on my 220 as shown by rahuldevnath. I have a few queries which I would be glad if someone could answer them-
1. Bi xenon's are HID's which have hi and low beam in one bulb? So that the pass light can be used through the low beam only.
2. Is there an H7 4300k slim ballast bi xenon bulb available in the market, which I can use on the low beam? If yes which company and how much will it cost?
3. How much will a regular slim ballast H7 4300k bulb cost, which I can use on the hi beam?
4. How much do LED's 1W cost, which I can use in the pilot lamps and for the number plate lamp?
5. Can I use this setup of a bi-xenon in my low beam for flashing and a regular HID on my upper beam? Is this feasible and what would be the cost I am looking at?

Also I would like to add that I am a newbie when it comes to technical stuff, so a layman's reply would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

Firstly u cant use a H4(bi-xenon) bulb on ur low beam or high beam. P220 uses H7 projector on low beam and H7 reflector for high beam which can not be used with any other bulb types as it will affect the beam throw drastically. Only on bi-xenon specific projectors can give you dual beam hence you got another high beam unit and this is the best lighting setup as of now than a bi-xenon projector.

Another thing is you cant use a HID for flashing purpose as the HID requires warming up time like the Sodium vapour lamps on the streets. I would suugest you to upgrade the low beam to HID of reasonable wattage and keep the high beam as stock for the above reason.

There are lot of brands available in the market, go for a medium priced one which can give you one year warranty or you can contact our fellow xbhpian Navnish for a better deal.

You can look for T10 high power LEDs for position lights. Number plates and all they are not that effective at least for me.

[Prakritij]

Firstly u cant use a H4(bi-xenon) bulb on ur low beam or high beam. P220 uses H7 projector on low beam and H7 reflector for high beam which can not be used with any other bulb types as it will affect the beam throw drastically. Only on bi-xenon specific projectors can give you dual beam hence you got another high beam unit and this is the best lighting setup as of now than a bi-xenon projector.

Another thing is you cant use a HID for flashing purpose as the HID requires warming up time like the Sodium vapour lamps on the streets. I would suugest you to upgrade the low beam to HID of reasonable wattage and keep the high beam as stock for the above reason.

There are lot of brands available in the market, go for a medium priced one which can give you one year warranty or you can contact our fellow xbhpian Navnish for a better deal.

You can look for T10 high power LEDs for position lights. Number plates and all they are not that effective at least for me.

if I go for a HID with hi-halogen and lo-xenon H4-2 setup can it be used for flashing?



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[stefanm]

if I go for a HID with hi-halogen and lo-xenon H4-2 setup can it be used for flashing?



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Yes and you can even flash with bixenons, just use it sensibly not like the idiots who constantly flash, if the headlights are on, then you can join the idiots and constantly flash to your hearts content!

[Prakritij]

Yes and you can even flash with bixenons, just use it sensibly not like the idiots who constantly flash, if the headlights are on, then you can join the idiots and constantly flash to your hearts content!

how can one flash with bi xenons if xenons take time to warmup when they are cold(say during Day time)?



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[The Monk]

Firstly u cant use a H4(bi-xenon) bulb on ur low beam or high beam. P220 uses H7 projector on low beam and H7 reflector for high beam which can not be used with any other bulb types as it will affect the beam throw drastically. Only on bi-xenon specific projectors can give you dual beam hence you got another high beam unit and this is the best lighting setup as of now than a bi-xenon projector.

Another thing is you cant use a HID for flashing purpose as the HID requires warming up time like the Sodium vapour lamps on the streets. I would suugest you to upgrade the low beam to HID of reasonable wattage and keep the high beam as stock for the above reason.

There are lot of brands available in the market, go for a medium priced one which can give you one year warranty or you can contact our fellow xbhpian Navnish for a better deal.

You can look for T10 high power LEDs for position lights. Number plates and all they are not that effective at least for me.

Thanks for replying bro. But this kind of setup wont be of any use for me as I wanted it from a touring point of view. And a HID on the low beam only, wont be used on the highway. I will be using only the stock halo hi beam. So it will be money spent in vain.
Is it the bulb which takes time to charge or the ballast. I am asking because I read somewhere that its the ballast and not the bulb. If such is the case, then could the two HID bulbs (upper and lower beam) be somehow connected to the same ballast. So that the high beam can be used as a flasher, when the low beam is on. I know it might be an extremely dumb question

@Prakritij Thanks for the links bro

[sajjt]

if I go for a HID with hi-halogen and lo-xenon H4-2 setup can it be used for flashing?
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My reply was purely for P220, I guess u got confused. R15 can plonk a H4 HID with HID+Halo combo for flashing. But you'll feel the light from the halo is not adequate once u change the beam from HID to halo.

Yes and you can even flash with bixenons, just use it sensibly not like the idiots who constantly flash, if the headlights are on, then you can join the idiots and constantly flash to your hearts content!

Nice one there.

Thanks for replying bro. But this kind of setup wont be of any use for me as I wanted it from a touring point of view. And a HID on the low beam only, wont be used on the highway. I will be using only the stock halo hi beam. So it will be money spent in vain.
Is it the bulb which takes time to charge or the ballast. I am asking because I read somewhere that its the ballast and not the bulb. If such is the case, then could the two HID bulbs (upper and lower beam) be somehow connected to the same ballast. So that the high beam can be used as a flasher, when the low beam is on. I know it might be an extremely dumb question

@Prakritij Thanks for the links bro

If you feel the stock hi beam is not adequate, go for an HID in an aux lamp, so that u wont loose the ability to flash.

Its the Capsule takes the warming up time not the ballast AFAIK. Dual tubes and dual ballasts are available in the market and that too takes the warmup time. If its a bi-xenon projector/H4 Capsule, once the bulb is on u can flash with that, what about the day time when the lights are off?

I've no idea of swapping the connection between two capsules driving with a single ballast, after all its out of logic as it can conk off the ballast any moment and its a game with 23000V electricity, it can be fatal to play around.

[Noor]

Thread ' need help from parking bulbs' approved and merged