Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[Prakritij]

^^ please help



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[Janesh.J]

HELP !! Where can I buy electronic flasher relay for LED Indicators. Is buying from net worth the money spent ? Can we get it locally?

[abhijitkn]

anything on this??
Also please tell me will the HID light affect the reflectors on my Bike due to its high operating temperature. I have seen some cars using HIDs with smoked reflectors...is it advisable to do so? If yes what is the advantage? If yes how can I make the reflectors smoked?
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while searching about HIDs I came across this link :HID kits, HID projectors, projector headlights, HID lights --Kingtech Auto Parts Co., Limited Official website --Powered by MetInfo with lot of info which I didn't knew previously. Most of you maybe knowing of all these but I still felt like sharing for newbies like me
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Hi Prakritij,
PM Navanish for HIDs.
I use smoked headlight, it will reduce the glare without compromising on beam spread. I purchased it. Google a bit to find out how to reomve the reflector, also I saw a post somewehere in XBhp on removing the reflector from the headlight.

[Prakritij]

Hi Prakritij,
PM Navanish for HIDs.
I use smoked headlight, it will reduce the glare without compromising on beam spread. I purchased it. Google a bit to find out how to reomve the reflector, also I saw a post somewehere in XBhp on removing the reflector from the headlight.

Thank You
actually I wanted to DIY for smoking the reflector
anyway, removing the reflector will not be a piece of cake and I don't want to mess it up.....so will leave it like that only for now.
got some good HIDs after a lot of searching in ebay.com...getting a pair of H4-2 35w 12v 3000k high xenon low halogen bulbs with ballasts and wiring for about AU$37 including shipping
Hope they work Fine



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[kaynmantis]

anything on this??

Also please tell me will the HID light affect the reflectors on my Bike due to its high operating temperature. I have seen some cars using HIDs with smoked reflectors...is it advisable to do so? If yes what is the advantage? If yes how can I make the reflectors smoked?

Please Help


while searching about HIDs I came across this link :HID kits, HID projectors, projector headlights, HID lights --Kingtech Auto Parts Co., Limited Official website --Powered by MetInfo with lot of info which I didn't knew previously. Most of you maybe knowing of all these but I still felt like sharing for newbies like me

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Not sure what you mean. But let me try.
1. HID has lower operating temperature than halogen.
2. Smoked is usually done on the glass, not the reflector. If reflector is smoked, then as you said, light is using projectors, hence reflector is merely decoration piece. If you are not using projectors, then you cannot smoke the reflector as they will not be able to reflect light.

[Prakritij]

Not sure what you mean. But let me try.
1. HID has lower operating temperature than halogen.
2. Smoked is usually done on the glass, not the reflector. If reflector is smoked, then as you said, light is using projectors, hence reflector is merely decoration piece. If you are not using projectors, then you cannot smoke the reflector as they will not be able to reflect light.

I have no projectors just H4-2 bulbs when I get them. so I guess no need to smoke anything
Thank You



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[kphilip]

guys, please suggest me a good lighting system for my classic pulsar 180.. Its too feeble with the current settings which is the original classic pulsar 180 doom.. Any suggestions?

[navnish]

LED Indicators and Tail Light for R15

R15 Guys .

Got led indicators and tail light developed for the R15. The indicators are brighter than the stock bulb and they look cool.

In few more weeks this will be for sale . Still trying to workout the pricing as it will be mass produced . And they look killer

For pulsar, apache and zma guys have developed a DIY Indicator you can just buy the LED board which will be pre soldered u will just need to open the indicator and fix them. Will post pics of the other indicators in the coming week .

[Janesh.J]

R15 Guys .

Got led indicators and tail light developed for the R15. The indicators are brighter than the stock bulb and they look cool.

In few more weeks this will be for sale . Still trying to workout the pricing as it will be mass produced . And they look killer

For pulsar, apache and zma guys have developed a DIY Indicator you can just buy the LED board which will be pre soldered u will just need to open the indicator and fix them. Will post pics of the other indicators in the coming week .

Hi Navnish

How do these led indicators work. have you developed electronic flasher for it or it uses some kind of circuit.

Will anything of this kind be available for activa ?

Regds
Janesh

[pankajshirke]

guys, please suggest me a good lighting system for my classic pulsar 180.. Its too feeble with the current settings which is the original classic pulsar 180 doom.. Any suggestions?

Philip,

please refer this thread for more details




Since it is Pulsar 180,you will get a very cost effective setup
I assume that you have P-180 with round headlight dome. is it?

According to the thread

First remove your Stator coil from the magneto
Check whether Avenger 180 stator coil is available or not
if available,just check the size.
But from many threads,I found that Avenger stator is straight fit to the P-150 and P-180 hence no problem

Avenger stator will fit in P-180 without any problem

But buy only Avenger 180 coil plate and not the Avenger 200 coil plate.

After fitting the Avenger stator in Magneto unit of P-180,Next take a Tata Ace round headlight and a good H4 Halogen bulb of 60/55 watts(Bosch or Philips Premium)

Also one thing,
While purchasing bulb from any car shop,tell that dealer that you want the bulb for some car like Zen/Alto/New Omni because if you tell that you want 60/55 watts bulbfor a bike,that dealer will not give you the bulb.I dont know why but I have experienced this.


From your round headlight dome,remove the Pulsar reflector and fit the Tata Ace reflector,

Thats it

You will get amazing light

Cost will be

Avenger Stator/ coil plate: Dont know but I assume it to be around 700 to 800
Tata Ace reflector: 350 rupees

Bosch/Philips Premium bulb 60/55 watts H4 Halogen: 90 to 100 rupees

[kphilip]

Thanx pankaj, i do have the rounded head lights.Will be updating you soon about the changes i've made.

[pankajshirke]

Hi,

I have pre-owned 2005 ZMA. The prev owner has fitted a 5Ah Amaron batery and 35w Halonix bulb. I am unhappy with the lighting. I want to improve it. Can anyone suggest me some resolution.

I have seen a 100/90w Phillips premium bulb but I am worried if the battery would support the high ratings of the bulb. BTW, I have already changed the pilot lamps to led. Is it going to help ?

Siddhartha.

So far I know
Karizma has got electricals on DC
Can you check the owner's manual and find out?
if electricals is mentioned as DC then surely you can put a powerful bulb without any modificatiions
But a 100 watts bulb is not recommended
It will melt and blacken your headlight reflectors very soon since zma's reflectors have ratings of 35 watts
But a 60/55 watts bulb will be good enough
Also dont go for Philips Xtreme power/Osram NB
Go for a Bosch/Philips Premium 60/55 watts bulb


But please check your manual whether your bike's electricals are DC or not.
If it is AC then you will need to increase coil windings by doing rewinding

Also you need to go for a higher amp rating battery

[pankajshirke]

Any idea how to get this info?



And I would go with Drji's word as 55/60W wont support on HH steeds evenif its got a rewinded coil. The RR behaves differently than the other bikes, rewinding just improves the battery charging rates.

I've seen many HH guys had gone for a 55/60W halogen and eventually found them seleves its a waste of time as the stock was far far better than this. How can you cope with turns keeping the rpm levels high? I dont think it wont lightup more than 75% of that halogen even on higher rpms which is less than the stock 35W full brightness.



It may turn out as a waste of time and money as am yet to hear on a HH rewinding mod. I guess it would be more appropriate for a HH owner who had achieved this.

Dude, do you have any proof for this? It will not affect the performance that significantly, a slight drop in the top end, thats what I've experienced so far. Else we would've gone back to the stock coils by now You will never feel this in the lower end. Check for few pages back where our Drji had rewinded with a 17G wire which is considered to be the max AFAIK and still he does decent speeds. Rewinding the coil surely gives stress to the engine but not considerably. To be precise, its not like loading another pillion rider 1+2

Rewinding the stock coil doesn't exert that much stress on the engine. I would say slight drop of rpm of 100 or so thats what I've observed.

Still not convinced? Check out Nano's 100W HID thread for the engine stress when he loaded the 35A car alternator to a 150CC bike.



Dude, Fazer's got a very robust power plant to light up 2X35W halogens by stock and many are directly plonking 2X55W without any modifications. The only thing has to be taken care of is try the dual setup only on highways or keep the rpm levels above average so that your battery wont get fried as its got a puny 3.5A batt. AFAIK no one had opted for a rewinding of coils for FZ series till date.

Have ever visualized how bad will be a Fazer with a round HL? It surely spoil the looks at least for me as its purely subjective. These econo mods may be an uplift for 10 year old bikes but will be a total mess for a new generation bike as it will spoil its appeal totally.

BTW, how much will be the cost of an Ace hl assy? Is it as cheaper as an Amby?

Sajjt
Tata Ace hl assy costs 350 rs in Pune whereas Amby HL assy is somewhat cheaper than Tata Ace
Amby hl assy is from Hella/Minda/Lumax
Whereas Tata Ace assy is of Neolite/Minda.
I have a Neolite HL assy itted in P-150 Headlight dome for my TVS GLX 125
Beam throw of Neolite reflectors is very good.I tested this on an old CBZ with a 35 watts halogen bulb and I got very good beam than the stock CBZ HL assy

With Minda HL assy,beam is very bright but beam spread is somewhat narrow than Neolite

Lumax HL assy of amby is the best one because there is no pilot bulb hole in the reflector hence you get good beam spread but only one problem.It supports H4 P45t type bulb and not H4 P43t type bulb.
Also this amby Lumax HL assy fits with old round h/l omni hence you can get it from any Maruti spare parts and service stations for 165 rupees

Regarding fazer
I thought that it is that old Fazer 125 cc
if it is 150 cc Fazer then I think that 2 bulbs of 35 watts are good enough for travel

Can one thing be done to Fazer
instead of 2 lights of 35 watts can it have only one bulb of 60 watts with a Yamaha FZ-16 h/l assembly


Regarding glamor
I am just going according to the theory
More windings means more current even at low rpms hence almost full intensity even at idling rpm
But the drawback is that if due to coil rewinding,the weight of stator increases by atleast 20% hence max rpm will surely drop.
And regarding putting 60 watts bulb directly to glamor you will have to race the accelerator so that the alternator will produce enough current

Regarding tech specs of magneto
You need to check which company manufactures the magneto assy for that bike.
In my case for TVS GLX 125 it was Master Ignition LTD and I checked the tech specs of the magneto coil from their website www.masterignition.com

[advghori]

Headlight change : pulsar 150 dtsi without digital meter

Hello friends

I own old Pulsar 150 DTSi. I want to change its headlight to either fz16 or round one. Plz. give me some suggestions in this regard. I also want to install higher voltage halogen, will this formula work

[Noor]

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