Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[MAXzma]

Hey MAX,
All the 4 turn signals will glow. You do not have to do any mods for the rear to glow.

Thanks. Will give it a try soon

[Blumarine005]

Guess you have space for a 7Ah battery.Change the battery to 7Ah MF battery or if you ready do a little mod,buy Amaron 9Ah MF battery which has 4years warranty and exide comes with only 2 years warranty. Check my signature for how to fix Amaron 9Ah battery in karizma.



Donot put 100/90 W bulb in your karizma,It will burn your reflectors and will need a relay,So i we wont recommend it to you,If you want cheaper Solutions Get

Philips Premium 55/60W or Halonix 55/60W

These comes in maruti cars,so go to a Maruti A S S and get the genuine bulb,Beware of fake bulbs so try to get it from theses service centers. This will cost you nearly 85rs for a bulb.


If you need white light,So you can get Philips Xtreme Power 55/60W and wil cost you nearly 900 for a pair.

I dont need white light but a bluish white like the Halonix would do. I do ride 2-3 days a week in the night. That to a max for around 2 hrs. Even that would burn the reflrctors? Are there any others reflectors that I can use? The shokeeper showed me his Royal Enfeild with the same bulb.

I am not very keen on changing the battery since the battery is just 7 months old. Also the guy already had tried the Amaron 9Ah but he said that the box holding the battery was a little short on height by lets say 5 cms. Is there some mod to rectify the height issue. Or can I use the battery holder of the new ZMA-R?

Please enlighten me.

[Aneesh@4GHz]

I dont need white light but a bluish white like the Halonix would do. I do ride 2-3 days a week in the night. That to a max for around 2 hrs. Even that would burn the reflrctors? Are there any others reflectors that I can use? The shokeeper showed me his Royal Enfeild with the same bulb.

Halonix and Philips Premium are not white lights,they are premium bulbs with yellow shade. even a 55/60W bulb will heat your reflectors very fast,not sure about the bullet,You will need a relay for a 100/90 bulb,normally 100/90 bulbs are used in rally cars.

[Blumarine005]

Halonix and Philips Premium are not white lights,they are premium bulbs with yellow shade. even a 55/60W bulb will heat your reflectors very fast,not sure about the bullet,You will need a relay for a 100/90 bulb,normally 100/90 bulbs are used in rally cars.

Are there any other reflectors that can take up the heat generated by 100/90 bulb.

Also I found Amaron doesnot manufacture 7Ah battery. What other 7Ah MF batteries are available in market?

I may sound a little weird but could you please explain "relay" and how would it help? I have no knowledge in electricals.

[Aneesh@4GHz]

Are there any other reflectors that can take up the heat generated by 100/90 bulb.

Dont know,I think no one had tried 100/90 bulbs in a bike.

Also I found Amaron doesnot manufacture 7Ah battery. What other 7Ah MF batteries are available in market?

Exide is available in 7Ah with 2 Years warranty.

I may sound a little weird but could you please explain "relay" and how would it help? I have no knowledge in electricals.

I am not a pro in electricals,in my knowledge,Relays helps to supply necessary power to the unit,Here it supplies adequate power to H/L Bulb.

[RanjithMN]

Dude, Fazer's got a very robust power plant to light up 2X35W halogens by stock and many are directly plonking 2X55W without any modifications. The only thing has to be taken care of is try the dual setup only on highways or keep the rpm levels above average so that your battery wont get fried as its got a puny 3.5A batt. AFAIK no one had opted for a rewinding of coils for FZ series till date.

That is for the R15 right?FZ's got 6 or 7 A batt.
and yeah you can have 2X 55w but like you say,got to keep the RPM high to avoid a drain.

I am not a pro in electricals,in my knowledge,Relays helps to supply necessary power to the unit,Here it supplies adequate power to H/L Bulb.

A relay is used for switching.that is to provide power to certain areas when needed.eg.a relay is what switches between a HIGH and LOW beam.

[pronoy_banerjee]

I may sound a little weird but could you please explain "relay" and how would it help? I have no knowledge in electricals.

A relay provides power to the electrical load connected to it, directly from the battery .. without the current passing from the switch..

The switch is bypassed from the circuit to save on losses, due to improper contact, sparking e.t.c

After the installation of a relay, when you use the switch, it would only switch ON/OFF the relay, and the relay would in turn make/break the direct Circuit.
It works on electromagnetism, switching ON the relay would magnetize the contact plate pulling it in position and making the circuit, and switching OFF the relay would demagnetize the contact plate, pushing it off the position and breaking the circuit,

When you press the starter notice the "snap" sound from near the battery, thats a starter relay..
I hope this answers your question...

[sajjt]

A relay provides power to the electrical load connected to it, directly from the battery .. without the current passing from the switch..

The switch is bypassed from the circuit to save on losses, due to improper contact, sparking e.t.c

After the installation of a relay, when you use the switch, it would only switch ON/OFF the relay, and the relay would in turn make/break the direct Circuit.
It works on electromagnetism, switching ON the relay would magnetize the contact plate pulling it in position and making the circuit, and switching OFF the relay would demagnetize the contact plate, pushing it off the position and breaking the circuit,

When you press the starter notice the "snap" sound from near the battery, thats a starter relay..
I hope this answers your question...

Nice explanation mate, really useful for newbies.

Here's my 2 cents:

A relay is just another electrical switch that opens and closes under the control of another electrical circuit.

A relay has at least two circuits. One circuit can be used to control another circuit. The 1st circuit (input circuit) supplies current to the electromagnet. The electromagnet is magnetised and attracts one end of the iron armature.

The armature is then closes the contacts (2nd switch) and allows current flows in the second circuit. When the 1st switch is open again, the current to the electromagnet is cut, the electromagnet loses its magnetism and the 2nd switch is opened. Thus current stop to flow in the 2nd circuit. Normally relays are useful in handling high current circuit requirements.



@Renjit,

Thanks for the update, was in a conclusion that Fazer also shares the same storage pot.

[pronoy_banerjee]

Nice explanation mate, really useful for newbies.

Here's my 2 cents:

A relay is just another electrical switch that opens and closes under the control of another electrical circuit.

A relay has at least two circuits. One circuit can be used to control another circuit. The 1st circuit (input circuit) supplies current to the electromagnet. The electromagnet is magnetised and attracts one end of the iron armature.

The armature is then closes the contacts (2nd switch) and allows current flows in the second circuit. When the 1st switch is open again, the current to the electromagnet is cut, the electromagnet loses its magnetism and the 2nd switch is opened. Thus current stop to flow in the 2nd circuit. Normally relays are useful in handling high current circuit requirements.


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Thanks,
BTW, what you posted is apt technically

[pavanchirmade]

Relay is the guy who does all the heavy lifting for the stock switch to run the attached heavy device! This way the stock switch doesn't have to break its back.

[pronoy_banerjee]

I guess the guy understood well... He might well be overwhelmed .. :P

[Prakritij]

Strictly speaking, watts does not determine colour temperature. A 5 watts bulb can have 3000k temp. while a 100 watts can have the same temp. Also, a 5 watts bulb can be 8000k, while 100w can be 3000k or vice versa. Colour temperature in laymen term simply means the colour of the light. You can paint the bulb to change the colour temperarure. Red, blue, yellow etc. Hope its clear.

I got it now. Thank You



I am planning to get HID lamps for my Bike as its 35w bulbs are insufficient for my riding conditions. The HID kits comes with 2bulbs, 2ballasts and wires. What I want to know is that can I fit them directly to the existing electricals after removing the old lamps or do I need some electrical modifications like a relay and/or a fuse. Please help



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[kaynmantis]

I may sound a little weird but could you please explain "relay" and how would it help? I have no knowledge in electricals.

Guys in previous posts have already explained it nicely, a little technical perhaps. To put it simply. The longer the wire between a battery and bulb, more power is lost. Lets say,

Scenario 1: The bulb, battery and switch are all side by side connected using very short wires. There is no loss of power. But lets say you are 10 feet away. You can use a 10 feet stick to switch on/off the light. But its stupid to use a stick.

Scenario 2: You need the switch near you. You pull a 20 feet wire to your position (10 from battery/bulb to switch and another 10 feet back to complete the circuit). This way the wire is too long so there will be loss of power.

What to do? You use a relay.

When you use relay, the relay acts like a switch that can be put on and off from a distant. The bulb, battery and relay are all side by side and are connected with short wires. In theory, you can have a remote control to operate the relay, but you don't find such fancy relay, besides a remote controlled headlight is ...mmm too nyyaaahh, so you need a "20 feet" wire and another normal switch to operate the relay which requires a small amount of power. The relay in turn switch on/off the bulb.

[Blumarine005]

I guess the guy understood well... He might well be overwhelmed .. :P

Thank you Pronoy, Pavan and Sajjt. All of my doubts are cleared.

[Prakritij]

I am planning to get HID lamps for my Bike as its 35w bulbs are insufficient for my riding conditions. The HID kits comes with 2bulbs, 2ballasts and wires. What I want to know is that can I fit them directly to the existing electricals after removing the old lamps or do I need some electrical modifications like a relay and/or a fuse. Please help



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anything on this??

Also please tell me will the HID light affect the reflectors on my Bike due to its high operating temperature. I have seen some cars using HIDs with smoked reflectors...is it advisable to do so? If yes what is the advantage? If yes how can I make the reflectors smoked?

Please Help


while searching about HIDs I came across this link :HID kits, HID projectors, projector headlights, HID lights --Kingtech Auto Parts Co., Limited Official website --Powered by MetInfo with lot of info which I didn't knew previously. Most of you maybe knowing of all these but I still felt like sharing for newbies like me



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