Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[viks]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Beehh...
Ballast :/

But 220's stock Bulb is 55W already.
So no need of recoiling and all I think.


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Well thats great if the stock is 55W, but you need to put the ballast for sure. im 100% sure on this.

[Naveen1985]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

the throw is way way better than the stock halogen, will surely post the beam pics tonight, was about to post last nigh but got stuck up with some important work. I bought it from grant road (east), mumbai. from a shop named ramesh scooters, bought it for INR 2100 for the lens, 35W, 8000K hid, slim ballast, wiring harness, fuse etc. all this comes in a set.
Fitting charges were INR 300.

Can you mention the brand name also...???

[Sird]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Can you mention the brand name also...???

No such famous brand is available in this price range buddy.
I see you're from Delhi ?

Then head forward to Karol Bagh & you'll get it there easily. Just keep the price in Mind & don't pay more than 2500rs for the setup.

*By the way, to be true viks mentioned 2100, which is way to Good, local mechanics in Mumbai, Delhi says a lot about it first & then open mouth near 4k.*

[chotu_r]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Nope.
But you can contact those Insurance people in Bajaj Service center they can easily provide you for some 1-1.5k

Thanks for the info!

@Chotu_r If I see the bike you are having the RE, then why don't you try sourcing the new RE 500 Thunderbird's projector setup, which more or less can be a direct fit, at least less than a 220s fairing, and you get the perks of the RE.

Once i decided to go for HID, then i started to look beyond the perks of the RE!
Someone has posted in another forum that the projector of New Thunderbird is giving only a spot beam. New headlight assembly costs 5k and it certainly fits my bike without any issue. But i dont want to spend 5k for a spot lamp, so still looking for other options.

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Well, honestly, the pics of light throw doesnt do any justice as these pics were taken in an open ground and no object to relate and show the distance, but the throw you see in the 2nd pic is approx 60-70 feet away. And yes, 1st pic is dipper and 2nd is upper.

here in mumbai, we find n number of p220 projectors, especially at a place known as chor bazaar for bikes and cars (CST Road, Kurla), thanks to many stupid and reckless riders who have a very powerful p220 but dont have the responsibility and skills to handle the power .

Hey, i can barely make out the difference between low beam & high beam! Would flashing have any effect on oncoming traffic?

I am currently scouring hyderabad scrap shops, if i fail to find them then i hope you will courier me one from mumbai chor bazaar.

[DeVille]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I believe the thread I linked in the previous post has many gens of Pulsars DC conversion discussed... please check...

Thank you again!

[Arun Magus]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hey bro, i have got it done recently on my hero impulse. Costed INR 2100 for the projector lens, 35w 8000k hid, slim ballast, wiring harness, fuse etc, and costed INR 300 for installation. Here is a pic by me:
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And this is the pic of the throw i get:
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Well, honestly, the pics of light throw doesnt do any justice as these pics were taken in an open ground and no object to relate and show the distance, but the throw you see in the 2nd pic is approx 60-70 feet away. And yes, 1st pic is dipper and 2nd is upper.
Please let me know guys how are the pics, cuz my gf said the pics are not so good .
And one more thing dude, do the mod when your battery is still in warranty, reason being god forbids if your battery dies which im sure will not happen with your p200ns as it has a 9ah battery, you dont even need any coil rewinding if you use a 35w hid, still you can just take the dead battery to the manufacturer and get it replaced for INR 50 as conveyance charge, just dont tell them about the hid But if you get it done after the warranty finishes, you will be responsible for whatever happens to your battery. Even i thought i will do it after warranty is over but then i enquired few things and conclusions are stated above. Also, a piece of advice, dont let the mechanic/technician cut into stock wire cutting, rather ask him to put a seperate switch for the HID (only and only if the main headlight is not on DC, if it is on DC then no need of getting into stock wire cutting and seperate switch), but for the angel/devil thing, it will be on the parking light switch. Trust me bro, these lights are head turners. Need any further help, let me know.

Dude you summed up everything in a single post. Thanks for that. AFAIK NS200 has a 12V 55/60 W H4 bulb. So what is the type of HID to be used? is 8000k fine? Because I personally like the bluish tint. It's all DC so will I have to cut into the stock wiring? And what about burnt reflectors? Does that really happen when used with a projector setup? And please guide me to some reliable HID and projector brands ( prefers to buy it online). Sorry for the rapid fire. And the pics look awesome, requesting a pic of the light throw against a wall or something.

[viks]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Thanks for the info!

Once i decided to go for HID, then i started to look beyond the perks of the RE!
Someone has posted in another forum that the projector of New Thunderbird is giving only a spot beam. New headlight assembly costs 5k and it certainly fits my bike without any issue. But i dont want to spend 5k for a spot lamp, so still looking for other options.


Hey, i can barely make out the difference between low beam & high beam! Would flashing have any effect on oncoming traffic?

I am currently scouring hyderabad scrap shops, if i fail to find them then i hope you will courier me one from mumbai chor bazaar.

Yeah, i know, thats because there is no object to relate. Will post a beam pic taken in the city tonight. And sure, if you cant find, i would gladly courier it from here.

[chotu_r]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

And please guide me to some reliable HID and projector brands ( prefers to buy it online). Sorry for the rapid fire. And the pics look awesome, requesting a pic of the light throw against a wall or something.

You can start looking for projector+hid combos on ktautoparts, aliexpress or ebay

Yeah, i know, thats because there is no object to relate. Will post a beam pic taken in the city tonight. And sure, if you cant find, i would gladly courier it from here.

Thanks! I will try scouting here first though

[viks]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

No such famous brand is available in this price range buddy.
I see you're from Delhi ?

Then head forward to Karol Bagh & you'll get it there easily. Just keep the price in Mind & don't pay more than 2500rs for the setup.

*By the way, to be true viks mentioned 2100, which is way to Good, local mechanics in Mumbai, Delhi says a lot about it first & then open mouth near 4k.*

Yup, dont give a rupee above INR 2500 if in delhi, in mumbai i would have suggested INR 2100, as i got mine for that much, actually i played a little in bargaining, the lowest price i got was INR 2400 from a few shops after bargains and then the guy from the shop from where i bought it said INR 2300 last, i said that shop guy is offering it for 2200, you give for 2000, but we finally settled for INR 2100 (cuz my friend who accompanied me was going mad at me as we had no food and he was super hungry, poor guy said "i will give you 100 bucks but please buy it and lets eat something") so i bought it for 2100. Playing games in bargaining does help . Its hereditary in me. Lolz.

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Dude you summed up everything in a single post. Thanks for that. AFAIK NS200 has a 12V 55/60 W H4 bulb. So what is the type of HID to be used? is 8000k fine? Because I personally like the bluish tint. It's all DC so will I have to cut into the stock wiring? And what about burnt reflectors? Does that really happen when used with a projector setup? And please guide me to some reliable HID and projector brands ( prefers to buy it online). Sorry for the rapid fire. And the pics look awesome, requesting a pic of the light throw against a wall or something.

1. If you want the colour of light which mercs and fortuners these days have (the blue tint you talking about) then you may go for 8000K, and if you want diamond white light with a very very little tint of blue then 6000K is for you.
2. if its all DC then you dont need to get into cutting the stock wiring (am talking about the main wiring), its just a little cut and join in the headlight wires (the ones which are connected to the switch and headlight) Reason for not getting in the stock main wire cutting is that if the battery is unable to take the load, fuse, CDI may go poof and the main wire can get burnt and then the repair costs are approx 2500-3000 depending on the bike.
3. The reflectors can get burnt up if your using HID without a projector due to heat as the reflectors are nothing but hard plastic, which also depends on what type of HID your using, lets not get into it as it has many permutations and combinations, but if you use a projector, i bet the there will be no burnt reflectors, also if you want the way i have done, you will need to spray paint the reflectors black. You can go for matt black or metallic black (i got metallic black as had it lying at my home).
4. And i would suggest you to physically see and check it and then buy so that you get a feel of it and can check whether is sturdy or not. You wont be able to check that online. Going online for some plug n play things like LEDs, DRLs etc is ok but for such a complex thing, i would advise you to go offline.
5. Regarding branded items, they start from 5.5k which has only an angel eye and hid, no demon eye. The same thing which i have bought for 2.1k is for 6.5k if you want it in a brand. But i have narrowed in a good product, a there were other projectors available for only INR 1200-1600 also.
6. Thanks for appreciating the pics, im gonna show this post to my gf who said the pics are not good.
Any other queries, let me know, happy to help.

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

And one request to all. Please don't quote the entire message of someone else's, it's really an eye sore, especially in Mobile. Kindly please, crop the one you're quoting so that it helps everyone out here. :thumbup:

Small etiquettes do matter.

Cheers!
VJ



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[Arun Magus]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

1. If you want the colour of light which mercs and fortuners these days have (the blue tint you talking about) then you may go for 8000K, and if you want diamond white light with a very very little tint of blue then 6000K is for you.
8000k all the way.. I so love the "awkwardness" of the blue light.
2. if its all DC then you dont need to get into cutting the stock wiring (am talking about the main wiring), its just a little cut and join in the headlight wires (the ones which are connected to the switch and headlight) Reason for not getting in the stock main wire cutting is that if the battery is unable to take the load, fuse, CDI may go poof and the main wire can get burnt and then the repair costs are approx 2500-3000 depending on the bike.
Aaah!!! If I cut in, wont it void my electrical warranty?
3. The reflectors can get burnt up if your using HID without a projector due to heat as the reflectors are nothing but hard plastic, which also depends on what type of HID your using, lets not get into it as it has many permutations and combinations, but if you use a projector, i bet the there will be no burnt reflectors, also if you want the way i have done, you will need to spray paint the reflectors black. You can go for matt black or metallic black (i got metallic black as had it lying at my home)
I'll install HID with a projector only. And I want the little smokey look in the reflector. Almost like a translucent coating.
4. And i would suggest you to physically see and check it and then buy so that you get a feel of it and can check whether is sturdy or not. You wont be able to check that online. Going online for some plug n play things like LEDs, DRLs etc is ok but for such a complex thing, i would advise you to go offline.
Will look into that.
5. Regarding branded items, they start from 5.5k which has only an angel eye and hid, no demon eye. The same thing which i have bought for 2.1k is for 6.5k if you want it in a brand. But i have narrowed in a good product, a there were other projectors available for only INR 1200-1600 also.
Brands can wait, my pocket is not so heavy.
6. Thanks for appreciating the pics, im gonna show this post to my gf who said the pics are not good.
Sorry to say. Still, WOMEN!!!! :P
Any other queries, let me know, happy to help.

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[viks]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

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Well if you cut into the main wiring (the heart of wiring, which generally runs below the petrol tank), then the electrical warranty may get void, but if its all DC, i dont think you will need to get into the main wiring, u just have to get the HID female plug in the main headlight male plug and there will be a very minimal cutting of a couple of wires in the headlight assembly in order to join the angel light wires to the parking light wires which will be put in the parking light socket and i guess this will not affect the electrical warranty, as its just like cutting the wire a little bit for changing the horns, and also, if you want to play extremely safe, then get a seperate switch installed for the main HID just as i did, as i wanted to play 100% safe.If you install a seperate switch instead of getting the main HID in the factory wiring, God forbids if there occurs a situation where you have to claim electrical warranty, just remove HID bulb (not the projector, just the bulb) and the 2 wires of the HID, re insert the stock halogen bulb in the socket in the projector and your done, nobody can accuse you that you had ever put an HID, as you have erased the evidence . I just hope that the advice im giving you is legal, and i dont get jailed for it.
So all in all, just get the angels in the parking lamp plug with the parking wires and get a seperate switch for HID.

[Sird]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Yea already discussed a lot of time these mechanics keeps on confusing me.

MY bike : Pulsar 220
Stock Wiring says its all DC (12 Volts DC as per Manual)
and 55W Bulbs

So Shall I get the :

HID 55W 12V -DC-
OR
HID 55W 12V -AC-

Getting it done as my Viral Fever & body pain is completely cured.

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Yea already discussed a lot of time these mechanics keeps on confusing me.

MY bike : Pulsar 220
Stock Wiring says its all DC (12 Volts DC as per Manual)
and 55W Bulbs

So Shall I get the :

HID 55W 12V -DC-
OR
HID 55W 12V -AC-

Getting it done as my Viral Fever & body pain is completely cured.

Hey keep us posted all through.

Cheers!
VJ

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[drvmtm]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

As I already said.
Mumbai highways are very dangerous. And from past 5-6 months the lifht emission is very very less from headlight. :/
I will take a pic today in night and try to show what I mean.

Wo I an go for 55W 6000k or 8000k without tension.
Isn't it ?
I'm one of those who wants proper lightning on road.
Coz in dark road when suddenly you spot a man running on road in urge to cross it, I get a heartattack.


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