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  • abhi7013
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    Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
    Thanks.

    How to know whether the AF is choked or not? Any signs for the same? Also, as you have mentioned, dry type is paper type, how is that to be cleaned?

    Cheerz!!
    The bike gives jerks as if running low on fuel and it happens wen your doing 80kmph+ in last gear(throttle fully open). Had happened to me.

    Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

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  • devils_friend
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    Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    How many KMS depends on the usage of the bike. Riding in good conditions even for 1000 KMS wouldn't affect the AF as much, it's pretty much as your lungs, you go in a dusty situation you sneeze, you cough you get all sort of things, and vice versa.

    An adequate figure which I maintain is 500 KMS strict! No matter what when trips are brought into the equation, else I always maintain a 500 to 700 KM strict filter cleaning interval. But mind you for a filter to get clogged so much so that the engine couldn't breathe must be a vehicle that is revived from junk.

    Most modern engines are pretty efficient and do their best to breathe free, it's when they are clogged beyond their threshold they start giving trouble.

    In my 4 years of ownership of my bike, the air filter choke was lit only once and it was gone the very next moment I cleaned the filter.

    @atuladeep, dry means not really paper they are cotton and felt of certain kind that are used to trap the dirt. Cars use paper filters and they are used primarily because they last long than conventional oil dipped foam.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Thanks.

    How to know whether the AF is choked or not? Any signs for the same? Also, as you have mentioned, dry type is paper type, how is that to be cleaned?

    Cheerz!!

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
    At how many kms is the AF to be cleaned periodically and replaced? My ride is approaching 9.5k kms.

    Cheerz!!
    Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
    My ride is FZ and it says dry element. Nothing mentioned about the AF except dry element.

    Cheerz!!
    How many KMS depends on the usage of the bike. Riding in good conditions even for 1000 KMS wouldn't affect the AF as much, it's pretty much as your lungs, you go in a dusty situation you sneeze, you cough you get all sort of things, and vice versa.

    An adequate figure which I maintain is 500 KMS strict! No matter what when trips are brought into the equation, else I always maintain a 500 to 700 KM strict filter cleaning interval. But mind you for a filter to get clogged so much so that the engine couldn't breathe must be a vehicle that is revived from junk.

    Most modern engines are pretty efficient and do their best to breathe free, it's when they are clogged beyond their threshold they start giving trouble.

    In my 4 years of ownership of my bike, the air filter choke was lit only once and it was gone the very next moment I cleaned the filter.

    [MENTION=25847]atulade[/MENTION]ep, dry means not really paper they are cotton and felt of certain kind that are used to trap the dirt. Cars use paper filters and they are used primarily because they last long than conventional oil dipped foam.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • xpranav
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    Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    Originally posted by shrey75 View Post
    Hey Guys, my Honda Activa 2010 @16000 KMs is up for changing Air filter
    Can you guys suggest me to go with stock one or any other
    and also SparkPlug needs to be change
    if you were happy with the performance/FE of stock AF, it is good to stay with the same new one, and so goes with the spark plug

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  • atuladeupes
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    Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

    Dry Element means paper type filter element is used in Yamaha FZ
    there are basically two types of filter element

    1. Foam type (dipped with oil)-can reuse it by cleaning them(but not effiicent as paper element)
    2. Paper type (dry)-Can use it upto 10-15K depending upon the manufactureres guide. very efficient.

    Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
    My ride is FZ and it says dry element. Nothing mentioned about the AF except dry element.

    Cheerz!!

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  • albyjose
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    Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

    Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
    My ride is FZ and it says dry element. Nothing mentioned about the AF except dry element.

    Cheerz!!
    Search in fz ownership thread..I have no experience with any filters other than foam!

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  • devils_friend
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    Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

    Originally posted by albyjose View Post
    What kind of air filter do you have?Both my bikes,rtr and splendor have foam type filters and I clean and them every 1.5 k ..Its better for the ride and if using good quality fuel you need not worry about carburetor cleaning for a long time.
    My ride is FZ and it says dry element. Nothing mentioned about the AF except dry element.

    Cheerz!!

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  • albyjose
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    Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

    Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
    At how many kms is the AF to be cleaned periodically and replaced? My ride is approaching 9.5k kms.

    Cheerz!!
    What kind of air filter do you have?Both my bikes,rtr and splendor have foam type filters and I clean and them every 1.5 k ..Its better for the ride and if using good quality fuel you need not worry about carburetor cleaning for a long time.

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  • devils_friend
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    Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

    At how many kms is the AF to be cleaned periodically and replaced? My ride is approaching 9.5k kms.

    Cheerz!!

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  • shrey75
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    Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    Hey Guys, my Honda Activa 2010 @16000 KMs is up for changing Air filter
    Can you guys suggest me to go with stock one or any other
    and also SparkPlug needs to be change

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  • Pinaki
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    Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    Originally posted by xpranav View Post
    ... he pointed it out to me that the service center guys usually put oil over the air filter which results in choking .... What do you guys say about it ?? ...
    Firstly be clear about the type of air filter used on your bike by the manufacturer . There are several types of air filter . Some types used a oiled element and some use dry media . All filters shall clog up and choke the engine's air intake after some time , when it has to be replaced or serviced ( cleaned & re-oiled ) depending upon the type used . Clear guidance shall be found in your bike's owner's manual .

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Guys, just found this, not sure if it's been posted earlier, so if it is then mods, feel free to remove.

    Jet Conversion.


    Width------Keihin # -- DynoJet # -- Mikuni #
    0,0350---- 92,5--------- 92----------- 86,3
    0,0360---- 95----------- 94----------- 88,1
    0,0370---- 97,5--------- 96----------- 90,0
    0,0380---- 100---------- 98----------- 91,9
    0,0390---- 102,5------- 100---------- 93,8
    0,0400---- 105--------- 102---------- 95,6
    0,0410---- 107,5------- 104---------- 97,5
    0,0420---- 110--------- 106---------- 99,4
    0,0430---- 112,5------- 108--------- 101,3
    0,0440---- 115--------- 110--------- 103,1
    0,0450---- 117,5------- 112--------- 105,0
    0,0460---- 120--------- 114--------- 106,9
    0,0470---- 122,5------- 116--------- 108,8
    0,0480---- 125--------- 118--------- 110,6
    0,0490---- 127,5------- 120--------- 112,5
    0,0500---- 130--------- 122--------- 114,4
    0,0510---- 132,5------- 124--------- 116,3
    0,0520---- 135--------- 126--------- 118,1
    0,0530---- 137,5------- 128--------- 120,0
    0,0540---- 140--------- 130--------- 121,9
    0,0550---- 142,5------- 132--------- 123,8
    0,0560---- 145--------- 134--------- 125,6
    0,0570---- 147,5------- 136--------- 127,5
    0,0580---- 150--------- 138--------- 129,4
    0,0590---- 152,5------- 140--------- 131,3
    0,0600---- 155--------- 142--------- 133,1
    0,0610---- 157,5------- 144--------- 135,0
    0,0620---- 160--------- 146--------- 136,9
    0,0630---- 162,5------- 148--------- 138,8
    0,0640---- 165--------- 150--------- 140,6
    0,0650---- 167,5------- 152--------- 142,5
    0,0660---- 170--------- 154--------- 144,4
    0,0670---- 172,5------- 156--------- 146,3
    0,0680---- 175--------- 158--------- 148,1
    0,0690---- 177,5------- 160--------- 150,0
    0,0700---- 180--------- 162--------- 151,9
    0,0710---- 182,5------- 164--------- 153,8
    0,0720---- 185--------- 166--------- 155,6
    0,0730---- 187,5------- 168--------- 157,5
    0,0740---- 190--------- 170--------- 159,4
    0,0750---- 192,5------- 172--------- 161,3
    0,0760---- 195--------- 174--------- 163,1
    0,0770---- 197,5------- 176--------- 165,0
    0,0780---- 200--------- 178--------- 166,9
    0,0790---- 202,5------- 180--------- 168,8
    0,0800---- 205--------- 182--------- 170,6
    0,0810---- 207,5------- 184--------- 172,5
    0,0820---- 210--------- 186--------- 174,4
    0,0830---- 212,5------- 188--------- 176,3
    0,0840---- 215--------- 190--------- 178,1
    0,0850---- 217,5------- 192--------- 180,0
    0,0860---- 220--------- 194--------- 181,9
    0,0870---- 222,5------- 196--------- 183,7
    0,0880---- 225--------- 198--------- 185,6
    0,0890---- 227,5------- 200--------- 187,5
    I have one query. Where did you get the DYNOJET specs, have you tried with your Karizma?

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • xpranav
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    Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
    For stock air filters I don't think using oil is necessary. In many ASCs, they just clean the filter of dust by blowing air through it and tapping on the ground. No much cleaning effort goes into it. Specially the oil part. Its not needed.

    Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2
    It really came to me as a surprise, when my mechanic took out the oiled AF from the bike to show me ............. he told me that when your bike clocks around 10k kilometers, the guys at ASC are ready with their bill of replacements, which becomes necessary only because of their ill-practices of service !! Now, though I have replaced that oil soaked AF and have a dry stock filter fitted in my stunner.

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  • abhi7013
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    Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    Originally posted by xpranav View Post
    For the very time when I took my stunner to a mechanic for service outside the authorized service center, he pointed it out to me that the service center guys usually put oil over the air filter which results in choking of the air filter after a run of around 8-10k kms as it is not possible to remove that sticking dust from the AF. He then replaced that AF and kept the new one in place without draining any oil through it as he reasoned that a dry AF can be cleaned of dust. What do you guys say about it ??

    Please put a brief explanation in your reply.
    For stock air filters I don't think using oil is necessary. In many ASCs, they just clean the filter of dust by blowing air through it and tapping on the ground. No much cleaning effort goes into it. Specially the oil part. Its not needed.

    Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

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  • xpranav
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    A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

    For the very time when I took my stunner to a mechanic for service outside the authorized service center, he pointed it out to me that the service center guys usually put oil over the air filter which results in choking of the air filter after a run of around 8-10k kms as it is not possible to remove that sticking dust from the AF. He then replaced that AF and kept the new one in place without draining any oil through it as he reasoned that a dry AF can be cleaned of dust. What do you guys say about it ??

    Please put a brief explanation in your reply.

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